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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Light Vulnerability Increase Celestia Damage? Sep 13^th, 2014 at 9:59pm	Print Post
	Srry for newb question, haven't melee'd in so long.


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Sneaky Shadow Lurker Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 328 Location: Lurking in the DDO Vault Joined: Mar 14^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Light Vulnerability Increase Celestia Damage? Reply #1 - Sep 13^th, 2014 at 10:06pm	Print Post
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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Light Vulnerability Increase Celestia Damage? Reply #2 - Sep 13^th, 2014 at 10:24pm	Print Post
	it doesnt turn purple on a FvS test toon with 1 stack of Shield of Condemnation. Could they have fixed it? Or is that normal?


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Sneaky Shadow Lurker Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 328 Location: Lurking in the DDO Vault Joined: Mar 14^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Light Vulnerability Increase Celestia Damage? Reply #3 - Sep 13^th, 2014 at 10:34pm	Print Post
	I think its only purple if the race itself is vulnerable.

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Distributed Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 855 Joined: Oct 4^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Light Vulnerability Increase Celestia Damage? Reply #4 - Sep 13^th, 2014 at 10:52pm	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 10:24pm: it doesnt turn purple on a FvS test toon with 1 stack of Shield of Condemnation. Could they have fixed it? Or is that normal? Or maybe its light damage got fucked up by one of the millions things that screw it up Like just being a wolf /sigh


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SayWhatAgain Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 236 Joined: Jul 30^th, 2014	Re: Light Vulnerability Increase Celestia Damage? Reply #5 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 12:23am	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 10:24pm: it doesnt turn purple on a FvS test toon with 1 stack of Shield of Condemnation. Could they have fixed it? Or is that normal? Still works and that's the way it always did. Smacking a mob that has light vunrability with your rainbow stick will increase your damage. Melle/ranged against a mob/boss that has "rebuke foe" (an underestimated EA ability) on it will do more damage (5%-25%) though the melle/ranged toon will have no indication of this other then seeing bigger numbers then usual. Having no indication of the damage is probably the reason the ability is less known/appreciated. If you have an EA in your party check the boss debuffs for it. If he has multiple stacks of rebuke foe or even a continuous stack of 5 in a long fight then you can say that player has some skill.


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SayWhatAgain Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 236 Joined: Jul 30^th, 2014	Re: Light Vulnerability Increase Celestia Damage? Reply #6 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 12:26am	Print Post
	Sneaky Shadow Lurker wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 10:34pm: I think its only purple if the race itself is vulnerable. Not entirely correct. You'll see purple numbers on a mob whenever it was debuffed (like from vunrability stacks or savant awaken weakness) except for a few rare situations (see my post above).
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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: Light Vulnerability Increase Celestia Damage? Reply #7 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 12:28am	Print Post
	Savant awaken weakness gives the mob a pseudo racial vulnerability or at least overrides their original one. Of course if they are immune then they are still immune. If you want to test that theory out use awaken fire on a icy creature or a troll and watch it take less damage than if you had not used the ability.


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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Light Vulnerability Increase Celestia Damage? Reply #8 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 2:31am	Print Post
	So I'm looking at a FvS/Bard SWB that uses Celestia For Light damage. FvS has 50% Debuff, and FateSinger actually has 15% stacking Light Vulnerability too. EA can get 10% more, but stacking 5 stacks of Rebuke Foe takes for ever (its not underrated, it's slow). Then again, Bard stacks proc 2% also, so 50 hits on average per stack, which is what, 15-20 seconds in SWB with DS and Alacrity? Fatesinger also has +3 Unique Damage, 24 Melee Power with U23, 3% Unique Damage bonus, 50% Sonic Vulnerability stack (good with SWB) and Reign. Problem is, once you're a Displaced, Ghostly, 30% Dodge High AC SWB not sure how much you end up getting hit. Am I missing other sources of Sonic and Light vulnerability?


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Light Vulnerability Increase Celestia Damage? Reply #9 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 2:54am	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 2:31am: Displaced, Ghostly, 30% Dodge High AC SWB not sure how much you end up getting hit. Enough if you waltz into large pack of mobs. Single non boss mob wont live long enough to hit back more than 2 or 3 times anyway.

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SayWhatAgain Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 236 Joined: Jul 30^th, 2014	Re: Light Vulnerability Increase Celestia Damage? Reply #10 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 4:48am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 2:54am: Enough if you waltz into large pack of mobs. Single non boss mob wont live long enough to hit back more than 2 or 3 times anyway. This. The celestia and light vunrability was nice for a combo of celestia using tank with a crown and a rebuking EA. The way the game is today guards aren't something you count on since A you aim to get hit less and B parties just roll over trash so fast. I have a unique bard build in mind that incorporates fvs in it but that's for different reasons.


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SayWhatAgain Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 236 Joined: Jul 30^th, 2014	Re: Light Vulnerability Increase Celestia Damage? Reply #11 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 4:52am	Print Post
	Shadehater wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 12:28am: Savant awaken weakness gives the mob a pseudo racial vulnerability or at least overrides their original one.� Of course if they are immune then they are still immune. If you want to test that theory out� use awaken fire on a icy creature or a troll and watch it take less damage than if you had not used the ability. That's interesting. Best to test it on an elemental, trolls have 15% vunrability iirc but ice elementals should take double fire damage.


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cabal41 Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 11 Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2014	Re: Light Vulnerability Increase Celestia Damage? Reply #12 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 4:54pm	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 2:31am: So I'm looking at a FvS/Bard SWB that uses Celestia For Light damage. Swashbuckling: Stance: You gain 1% Doublestrike and Doubleshot as well as +1 to the Enhancement Bonus of the weapon in your main hand. this turns celestia light type into magic, no idea if it's going to work with light vulnerability, but it won't break any DR other than magic


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ElBoltonero Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 25 Joined: Jun 10^th, 2014	Re: Light Vulnerability Increase Celestia Damage? Reply #13 - Sep 17^th, 2014 at 10:50am	Print Post
	Yeah IIRC swashing breaks celestia, like most other things


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