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PDK build for Arcane and Iconic PL's?
Oct 9th, 2014 at 12:49pm
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I'd like to grind out 3 PDK and 3 Arcane PL's simultaneously and wondering if there's a good build that someone can suggest?

So far the most promising one is Avatar of Eilistraee in the Bard section of the mother forums.

Some of my limitations (besides gimp play on my part) is no access to Arty, Druids, HOrcs, Harper Tree and +X Hearts.

What I do have to work with are (if it matters):
+4 tomes in all stats except Con +5
HPL's = 3 pally, 2 clr & ftr, 1 wiz, sorc, mnk and rog
EPL's = 3 Colors, 3 Brace and 3 Fort

Arcane, melee or specialist playstyle can be accommodated.

I run mainly EE on the coat tails of my friends and the only pre-req is that it be fun!

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Re: PDK build for Arcane and Iconic PL's?
Reply #1 - Oct 9th, 2014 at 6:10pm
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Cha based divine might swashbuckling bard.

Use shortswords and only invest lightly in fighter / fvs levels.
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Reply #2 - Oct 9th, 2014 at 8:58pm
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Munk is leaning where I would go as well. Shawsbuckler of assorted classes. bard/fighter/rogue. My preference is rogues. But depends on what past lives you want. Melee as fatesinger isnt the worst if youre on a swash build. extra songs, and buffs, str/cha stat increase, and epic moment is good for trash mobs.
  

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Reply #3 - Oct 9th, 2014 at 9:34pm
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A Fatesinger with sonic spell power jacked up, SWF, ISWF, GSWF and perfect SWF is a great melee experience. Harmonic res, and fragments of valor (rank II) running along side reign and turn the tide just shower the area in purple numbers. I used to hold onto turning the tide, but pop it off first chance I need it now, the +40% damage paired with +88% melee speed is fantastic.  I would go with balizarde or a light pick for weapon and probably buckler or free hand.   Smiley Smiley 
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Reply #4 - Oct 9th, 2014 at 11:56pm
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Munkenmo wrote on Oct 9th, 2014 at 6:10pm:
Cha based divine might swashbuckling bard.

Use shortswords and only invest lightly in fighter / fvs levels.


Ah ok so the Avatar of Ellistrae – Drow (for flavor) – 18 Bard/1FvS/1Fighter is pretty good in your opinion.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/435460-Avatar-of-Eilistraee/page3

As for other options, thanks all for the suggestions!

Forgive me for my laziness and lack of knowledge but I tend to work better when a build is more fully laid out.

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Reply #5 - Oct 10th, 2014 at 12:34am
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ChewyOoeyGoOey wrote on Oct 9th, 2014 at 11:56pm:
Ah ok so the Avatar of Ellistrae – Drow (for flavor) – 18 Bard/1FvS/1Fighter is pretty good in your opinion.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/435460-Avatar-of-Eilistraee/page3

As for other options, thanks all for the suggestions!

Forgive me for my laziness and lack of knowledge but I tend to work better when a build is more fully laid out.

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Meh. That build is cute, but I wouldnt play it. Go with something that grants you evasion and stalwart stance. Minimum of 2 ftr levels, I suggest 3 to 4 for extra feat and more importantly greater stalwart 20% hp.

The build I used was dex shadar swashbuckler. 13 rouge/ 5 bard/ 2 fighter. New changes allowing Improved Defensive Roll, evasion, and stalwart stance all on the same build. Current split would be different and look like 12 rogue/5 bard/ 3 ftr.

Shield Mastery line, Precision, swf, improved sneak attack, prr above 130, mrr of 75 in light armor.
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Re: PDK build for Arcane and Iconic PL's?
Reply #6 - Oct 10th, 2014 at 1:34am
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Rubbinns wrote on Oct 10th, 2014 at 12:34am:
Meh. That build is cute, but I wouldnt play it. Go with something that grants you evasion and stalwart stance. Minimum of 2 ftr levels, I suggest 3 to 4 for extra feat and more importantly greater stalwart 20% hp.

The build I used was dex shadar swashbuckler. 13 rouge/ 5 bard/ 2 fighter. New changes allowing Improved Defensive Roll, evasion, and stalwart stance all on the same build. Current split would be different and look like 12 rogue/5 bard/ 3 ftr.

Shield Mastery line, Precision, swf, improved sneak attack, prr above 130, mrr of 75 in light armor.


Nice thanks Rubs, that gives me a bit more direction.

I can also adjust and try other builds along the way since I'll be at it three times.
  
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Re: PDK build for Arcane and Iconic PL's?
Reply #7 - Oct 10th, 2014 at 8:43am
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16bard, 3fighter, 1fvs.

I don't see how to fit in evasion.  I like atleast 16 bard levels for greater shout and irresistable.

3 fighter is obvious for the defensive stance benefits and 20% hp.

that leaves a 1 level splash, and imo that means either wiz for cleave + a feat, or FVS for divine might.
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Reply #8 - Oct 10th, 2014 at 10:35am
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I thought OP wanted Arcane (Sorc/Wiz) Heroic PLs alongside the PDK PLs.

There doesn't seem to be a way to get an iconic PL and an EPL simultaneously...
  

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Reply #9 - Oct 10th, 2014 at 10:40am
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Mokune wrote on Oct 10th, 2014 at 10:35am:
I thought OP wanted Arcane (Sorc/Wiz) Heroic PLs alongside the PDK PLs.

There doesn't seem to be a way to get an iconic PL and an EPL simultaneously...


True. You can epic TR, but that would only give you an epic PL. You'd have to level again to 28 to have the option to ITR once more to get a heroic + iconic PL.
  

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Reply #10 - Oct 10th, 2014 at 12:44pm
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NOTSunnyshadow wrote on Oct 10th, 2014 at 10:40am:
True. You can epic TR, but that would only give you an epic PL. You'd have to level again to 28 to have the option to ITR once more to get a heroic + iconic PL.


Awww poops, I totally misunderstood the eTR and iTR process (as I've never done an iTR)!

I was hoping to get both an Epic PL (Arcane) and Iconic PL (PDK) in the same life cycle...

I guess my focus right now will be just to get my 3 Arcane EPL's done for Epic Completionist and then think about PDK PL's.

Oh well, not all is lost as I now have a few ideas for a Bard PDK and I've always wanted to try a Bard.

Thanks so much all, I'm glad that there are smarter people out there than I.


  
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Reply #11 - Oct 10th, 2014 at 1:03pm
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Yeah mate, those posted bard builds look pretty damn awesome for grinding *ahem* I mean "adventuring through multiple EPL's.

Even some off-destinies could be tolerable and maybe even enjoyable with Bard as a base build.

  

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Reply #12 - Oct 10th, 2014 at 3:06pm
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You do gain BOTH the class past life feat and the iconic past life feat.  No epic past life though.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Iconic_True_Reincarnation
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Reply #13 - Oct 16th, 2014 at 2:09am
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Slug wrote on Oct 10th, 2014 at 3:06pm:
You do gain BOTH the class past life feat and the iconic past life feat.  No epic past life though.

Thanks for that info, Cap. Obvious.
  

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NOTdarth wrote on Oct 16th, 2014 at 2:09am:
Thanks for that info, Cap. Obvious.


We ain't exactly dealing with the cream of the crop on this forum.
  
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Reply #15 - Oct 16th, 2014 at 9:49am
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Slug wrote on Oct 16th, 2014 at 9:30am:
We ain't exactly dealing with the cream of the crop on this forum.


We are. Just not the cream nor the crop of the desired demographic.
  

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