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Thinking of going Pally/Rogue
Oct 28th, 2014 at 10:17am
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I want to TR my multiclass rogue into something else, and was thinking of going:

BF 15pal/5rog and use Sireth as my main weapon.

This would give me holy sword/zeal, T5 staff specialization.

Then maybe run in DC/LD.

Any and all advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
  
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Re: Thinking of going Pally/Rogue
Reply #1 - Oct 28th, 2014 at 10:48am
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Fatty Mcgee wrote on Oct 28th, 2014 at 10:17am:
holy sword/zeal, T5 staff specialization

Competence bonus. Sword and staff spec dont stack.

Take 2 level of rogue for staff alacrity. splash 2-3 monk levels in there as well for centered bonus. Stance, dance flowers(2.5 (w) bonus with holy sword), sireth in DC should be 10-20 crit range, and multiplier of x5 on 19-20 in earth with holy sword and oc
  
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Re: Thinking of going Pally/Rogue
Reply #2 - Oct 28th, 2014 at 11:08am
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Rubbinns wrote on Oct 28th, 2014 at 10:48am:
Competence bonus. Sword and staff spec dont stack.

Take 2 level of rogue for staff alacrity. splash 2-3 monk levels in there as well for centered bonus. Stance, dance flowers(2.5 (w) bonus with holy sword), sireth in DC should be 10-20 crit range, and multiplier of x5 on 19-20 in earth with holy sword and oc


I did not know about Holy Sword and staff spec not stacking... darn at that. But this leaves you free to spend AP in other trees. I assume you won't be going dex. You might want to look into the divine cleaves that paladins can get, shares cooldowns with cleave and greater cleave though - so you might want to skip out on greater cleave.

Will the staff damage line from rogues and monks stack? I thought they do, but I haven't tested.
  
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Re: Thinking of going Pally/Rogue
Reply #3 - Oct 28th, 2014 at 11:21am
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Well damn thanks for the good info!  I would have for sure fucked that up.

Maybe just scrap the whole rogue stick.

BTW how did that 15pal/5ran dual deathnip build work in epics?
  
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Reply #4 - Oct 28th, 2014 at 12:18pm
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Fatty Mcgee wrote on Oct 28th, 2014 at 11:21am:
BTW how did that 15pal/5ran dual deathnip build work in epics?

Think my boy tr'd out of that. He got busy with studies and stuff didnt get to run with him much after. Will ask when i see him on. He tr's so fast and often though(legit no stones), hard to keep track.
  
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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #5 - Oct 28th, 2014 at 12:19pm
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NOTSunnyshadow wrote on Oct 28th, 2014 at 11:08am:
Will the staff damage line from rogues and monks stack? I thought they do, but I haven't tested.

I havent tested, but I read that they do on forums.
  
Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Re: Thinking of going Pally/Rogue
Reply #6 - Oct 28th, 2014 at 12:33pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Oct 28th, 2014 at 12:18pm:
Think my boy tr'd out of that. He got busy with studies and stuff didnt get to run with him much after. Will ask when i see him on. He tr's so fast and often though(legit no stones), hard to keep track.


Cool thanks!

I am just looking for some fun build to try and play for awhile.

I saw some hints around here on the vault of a defensive roll build, and that seemed really intresting but have no clue on how to build that.
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Re: Thinking of going Pally/Rogue
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Fatty Mcgee wrote on Oct 28th, 2014 at 12:33pm:
I saw some hints around here on the vault of a defensive roll build, and that seemed really intresting but have no clue on how to build that.

There is Haek's Zeus build on the forums that uses Improved Defensive Roll. And I made a rogue swashbuckler dex based that uses it. Both are not on par with pally dps and survival. Being honest pallies shit on every other melee build right now
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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Re: Thinking of going Pally/Rogue
Reply #8 - Oct 28th, 2014 at 1:00pm
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Fuck it then.  Just going Pally something.  Just have to decide what.
  
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Reply #9 - Oct 28th, 2014 at 3:34pm
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Nothing wrong with pure pally either....
  
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Re: Thinking of going Pally/Rogue
Reply #10 - Oct 28th, 2014 at 4:53pm
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For a Sireth build I went 15Pal/3Rog/2Ftr before they changed feat requirements for OC. Decent defense and good dps for a staff build. I went Bladeforged with Addy body for the PRR/MRR. It's my second favorite melee that I've played so far. I prefer to run in DC for the extra crit profile but LD is great for blitz.
  
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Re: Thinking of going Pally/Rogue
Reply #11 - Oct 28th, 2014 at 5:17pm
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Fatty Mcgee wrote on Oct 28th, 2014 at 1:00pm:
Fuck it then.  Just going Pally something.  Just have to decide what.

Pure pally either thf falchion or swf bastard sword. Thunderforged procs, and crit ranges in DC 13 or less.
  
Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Re: Thinking of going Pally/Rogue
Reply #12 - Oct 29th, 2014 at 10:39am
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I'm really curious about the 15pal/5ran dual deathnip.  I think I'll go with that.

Any pointers that I might need to know about? 

Just run it in DC for higher crit range.

Wear as much armor piercing as possible. 

Should I switch one out later for a dragons edge/mortal fear?
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Re: Thinking of going Pally/Rogue
Reply #13 - Oct 29th, 2014 at 11:29am
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Fatty Mcgee wrote on Oct 29th, 2014 at 10:39am:
Should I switch one out later for a dragons edge/mortal fear?

I feel like TF weapons beat out nips completely.

Fatty Mcgee wrote on Oct 29th, 2014 at 10:39am:
15pal/5ran

You will give up tier 5 kotc includes cleave and sealed soul. Can make up for sealed soul as robot, but human is imo better for the synergy in DC and extra feat plus the feat saved from not having to take adam body as a robot for hvy armor. Take 1 fighter level over 5th ranger should be able to get manyshot. Sestra's build thread on forums has his as 18/1rng/1ftr and fits in manyshot.

Fatty Mcgee wrote on Oct 29th, 2014 at 10:39am:
Wear as much armor piercing as possible. 


Precision over PA, dragon's edge, red slot deconstructor, and twist in grim precision.
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Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Re: Thinking of going Pally/Rogue
Reply #14 - Oct 29th, 2014 at 11:47am
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Rubbinns wrote on Oct 29th, 2014 at 11:29am:
Precision over PA, dragon's edge, red slot deconstructor, and twist in grim precision.

Dumb question:  Why deconstructor?  TF is already Metalline.

Ahh, Destruction, never noticed that before.
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