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Oct 30th, 2014 at 8:32pm
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And a caster one to be precise. Haven't played one of those in forever so I have no idea what's good at the moment. But still feel like playing one.

Solo EE capable would be best, but if casters kinda suck now I'm fine with EH. Only 2 lives to go through and one with streak so it could be worse.

Not favoring any class in particular, but it has to be iconic since I don't want to go through 1-20. Not LRing out of their forced first level either.
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actually, fuck fvs, so anything else

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Reply #1 - Oct 30th, 2014 at 11:06pm
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Screw casters. Stick with your wolf build in fatesinger. pure bladeforged pally works too.
  

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Reply #2 - Oct 31st, 2014 at 7:14am
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You can do melle like suggested, but if point is etring, i will asuume one time elite for bravery and then braindead normal/hard farm.
That would mean since option is arcane sphere something utilizing dc casting since that is path to go as arcane draconic.
Now many could suggest a fatesingie bard, but lets ignore that for a moment.

2 real options are a palemaster or a sorcerer.
I played both so from my personal experience on what is more effective in epic elite i would suggest a sorcerer.
Now if you have etr gear to cover it /like twilight litany epic helm of frost blue set green set necro junk hh junk some caster crafted sticks its a extremely strong etr build for running solo epic elite streak.
I wouldnt suggest pm unless you want to focus on later tiers of etr /lv 26 or so/ since etring as pm brings forth the issue of extremely low dps compared to other current builds and the dps is really waek unless you decide to pick ruin /lv 27 which is really counterproductive for a etr build.


So if you want a easy to play sorc then go bf 18/2 char based max enchanter, issue with bf is that its dcs cant make you have proper dcs for at level epic elite as you really need lv 25 or so gear to be effective.
Pros are that you start at 15 and can selfheal.

I personally prefer pure drow sorc since it has dcs straight of the bat for enchant and due to the fact that its a more fun to play build since its glasscannon type.
Imo its the most effective caster build for fast etring in arcane sphere.
Pm is one of the most fun ones, nothing better then fingering that mob that a palie beats on when its at 5% hp Smiley
  
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Reply #3 - Oct 31st, 2014 at 6:49pm
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I also need to get some primal lives done but MM pew pew in Shiradi sounds boring so figured I'd do those later.

Wonder if Druid wouldn't be too bad for that in Shiradi, or just stick to the Arcane lives idea and try Draconic?

Basically just feel like being a caster again for some reason...but nothing in the Divine sphere, because that's already done.

Palemaster I don't think I would enjoy that much, played that kind of build way too much back when necro was insanely powerful. Sorcerer could be interesting, heard about those enchant builds but what's the idea behind them? Almost always have things helpless and burst and stuff inside those groups? Wouldn't having low evo DCs cause problems for any damage spells?

Also aware it's not the best idea ever and that a Fatesinger Bard would probably rape things a lot easier, but I don't care, so no point mentionning it.
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Reply #4 - Oct 31st, 2014 at 8:55pm
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Distributed wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 6:49pm:
I also need to get some primal lives done but MM pew pew in Shiradi sounds boring so figured I'd do those later.

Wonder if Druid wouldn't be too bad for that in Shiradi, or just stick to the Arcane lives idea and try Draconic?

Basically just feel like being a caster again for some reason...but nothing in the Divine sphere, because that's already done.

Palemaster I don't think I would enjoy that much, played that kind of build way too much back when necro was insanely powerful. Sorcerer could be interesting, heard about those enchant builds but what's the idea behind them? Almost always have things helpless and burst and stuff inside those groups? Wouldn't having low evo DCs cause problems for any damage spells?

Also aware it's not the best idea ever and that a Fatesinger Bard would probably rape things a lot easier, but I don't care, so no point mentionning it.


Evocation is a stat that you can easily dump on a sorc build, when they are helpless they dont get evasion check.
So basically huge spellpower, massive caster level and max caster level increase combined with sense weaknes.

Usual name for mass hold energy burst is blue burst of destruction Wink

For boss fights slas dots fire savants imollation and weaken from air make them melt.
Thats kinda basic idea behind whole sorc enchanter concept.
Works wonderfully for most content /didnt try in ee necro but if you can solo any horns easily as sorc then im pretty sure necro wont present any issue

I mean thats just 1 suggestion, its a quite powerful build, but it requires skill to stay alive as fleshie, i would rate it one of higest skill required builds to play /thats why i find it extremely fun myself
  
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Reply #5 - Nov 1st, 2014 at 9:41am
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Lelouch wrote on Oct 31st, 2014 at 8:55pm:
Evocation is a stat that you can easily dump on a sorc build, when they are helpless they dont get evasion check.
So basically huge spellpower, massive caster level and max caster level increase combined with sense weaknes.

Usual name for mass hold energy burst is blue burst of destruction Wink

For boss fights slas dots fire savants imollation and weaken from air make them melt.
Thats kinda basic idea behind whole sorc enchanter concept.
Works wonderfully for most content /didnt try in ee necro but if you can solo any horns easily as sorc then im pretty sure necro wont present any issue

I mean thats just 1 suggestion, its a quite powerful build, but it requires skill to stay alive as fleshie, i would rate it one of higest skill required builds to play /thats why i find it extremely fun myself


So you don't take Meteor Swarm? I'm assuming you're 18 sorc, with 2 splash Pally or whatever.  Energy Burst cooldown isn't very good if you only get 1 level 9 spell and use it on Mass Hold....no MS.
  
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Reply #6 - Nov 1st, 2014 at 11:56am
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CosmicCharlie wrote on Nov 1st, 2014 at 9:41am:
So you don't take Meteor Swarm? I'm assuming you're 18 sorc, with 2 splash Pally or whatever.  Energy Burst cooldown isn't very good if you only get 1 level 9 spell and use it on Mass Hold....no MS.


Nah i play pure sorc, prefer drow since i can take dodge fear get racial 3 dodge air form 3 and with 11 item and 3 plifes/haste viola your set.
Evocation is a weird thing, it doesnt work out on most build that arent fully specialized for it.
Thing is, it takes time for people to adapt to play a pure evoking in general class as enchanter.
Met swarm is useless and a to costy spell when you take into account that there are better spells, its a shiradi spell and otherwise its a useless to inscribe in spelbook /if you plan to play draconic.
Wail/power word kill/mass hold monster are my personal top 3.
While etrign i have enough necro dc for content like druids.
For aoe air savant is purely the best.
Once you get to 24 and your 150 spp thforged you gain imortallity since the fact that you can spam chain light ball light on mass held monsters will stay that they will die really fast.
Its simple how to look at enchanter sorc vs evoker.
Evoker has evocation and doesnt get a huge ammount of it to matter for high end content, some mobs will just make their check no matter what you do since there is no way to debuff properly as sorc.
Take into comparison druid, whose kit is full of reflex debuffs and its dc can reach considerably high numbers for equake.
Sorc sadly does not have that possibility.
So yo are left with several choices, play shiradi, play a evoker and get acustomed to the evade sign or a enchnater.
Enchanter makes trash helpless, thats 50% more damage, you twist in sense and that is 30% more.
A direct increase vs trash mobs with super high wave clearing capability is way better then 3 feats that do apsolutely nothing to speed up the process of etring.
I had  a hard time to get used to the whole enchanter thing, i tried it purely for fun and thought it would be super gimp, but after playing it for 9 etrs i am pretty confident it beats evoker in any possible scenario.
Try it out and trust me you will like it.

Even a gimp spell will do wonders on a helpless target ampified by sense combined with high caster level spells you are able to cast
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Re: Looking for an Arcane sphere epic past life build.
Reply #7 - Nov 2nd, 2014 at 12:55am
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What about a sun elf 18bard/1c/1w spell singer caster?

Sun elf over PDK for the +3 spell pen, 100sp and ability to get no fail Medium ASF without going up to tier 4 in Warchanter.

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Feat: (Deity) Favored by Amaunator
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell

Level 2 (Bard)

Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell

Level 4 (Bard)

Level 5 (Bard)

Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell

Level 7 (Bard)

Level 8 (Bard)

Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Enchantment

Level 10 (Bard)

Level 11 (Bard)

Level 12 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration

Level 13 (Bard)

Level 14 (Bard)

Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment

Level 16 (Bard)

Level 17 (Bard)

Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell

Level 19 (Bard)

Level 20 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Heighten Spell

Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Spell Focus: Enchantment

Level 22 (Epic)

Level 23 (Epic)

Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Inspire Excellence

Level 25 (Epic)

Level 26 (Epic)

Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Enhancement: Morninglord - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Keen Senses (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcane Fluidity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcane Fluiddity (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcane Fluidity (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcanum (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcanum (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Morninglord - Arcanum (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spellsinger (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Music of the Sewers (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Music of the Dead (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Music of the Makers (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Virtuoso (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Musical Studies (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Musical Studies (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Musical Studies (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Sonic Blast (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Sonic Blast (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Sonic Blast (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Flicker (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Yellow Marigold Crown (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Shout (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Shout (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Shout (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spell Song Trance (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spell Penetration (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spell Penetration (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spell Penetration (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Song of Arcane Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Advanced Magical Studies (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Advanced Magical Studies (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Advanced Magical Studies (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Prodigy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Prodigy (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Prodigy (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spell Song Vigor (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Mass Hold (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Mass Hold (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Mass Hold (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Skaldic Constitution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Action Boost: Sprint (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Smite Foe (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Toughness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Toughness (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Toughness (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Confidence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Swashbuckling (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd)  - Blow By Blow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Blow By Blow (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Blow By Blow (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Tavern Shanties (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Fast Movement (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Enchantment I: Hypnotism (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Archmage (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Elemental and Force I (Rank 1)
 



It should hold up on a caster life thanks to energy burst and the spell singer SLA's. And if you do decide you want to go swashbuckler after a life or 2 it'll be a straight forward ETR.

*I probably would choose PDK primarily for the freedom to go swashbuckler should I change my mind on the second or third life.
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Reply #8 - Nov 2nd, 2014 at 1:52am
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But stacking PL's gives you bonuses to Evo. Nothing like that exists to boost Enchantment other than gear/feats, no PL's or anything unique like that.
  
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CosmicCharlie wrote on Nov 2nd, 2014 at 1:52am:
But stacking PL's gives you bonuses to Evo. Nothing like that exists to boost Enchantment other than gear/feats, no PL's or anything unique like that.


Will save target numbers are WAY lower than reflex.
  

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Reply #10 - Nov 4th, 2014 at 5:53pm
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Munkenmo wrote on Nov 2nd, 2014 at 12:55am:
What about a sun elf 18bard/1c/1w spell singer caster?

Sounds interesting, but I seem to have my sights on Druid right now after thinking about it yesterday.

Had 17/3 PDK in mind, because 13 points in SD is hawt and could be pretty tank-ish with heavy armor and a tower shield. While still getting level 9 spells.

Don't really see much of another route than evo specced on that though and not sure that would be good for EE considering the kind of gear I usually end up using (random shit). But worst case I can do those two Arcane lives in Draconic on EH.

Feels like it would be quite good in Shiradi though for EEs, after I'm done with Arcanes. But, I don't know if EQ/Ice+Sleet Storm can proc stuff?
  
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