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Nov 21st, 2014 at 6:34am
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Has anyone tried yet ? With known the angels it is pretty obvious to me...
  
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Re: 12 Fighter 6 bard 2 rogue
Reply #1 - Nov 21st, 2014 at 7:36am
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Has anyone tried yet ? With known the angels it is pretty obvious to me...


The grammar failure is also pretty obvious.
  
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Re: 12 Fighter 6 bard 2 rogue
Reply #2 - Nov 21st, 2014 at 7:49am
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Re: 12 Fighter 6 bard 2 rogue
Reply #3 - Nov 21st, 2014 at 7:50am
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Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Nov 21st, 2014 at 7:36am:
The grammar failure is also pretty obvious.


I'm still trying to find what "known the angels" means?   Grin
Is it a biblical reference?
Known - it is past tense.  The angels - reference to life after death?  Heaven maybe?
Is he talking about died and gone to heaven?
Has anyone tried it yet - it's a suicide pact!  Is this a cult thing?
End of the world/Doomsday scenario?

Maybe this obtuse communication is a secret message to the Cult of Teh_Troll.....   Grin
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Re: 12 Fighter 6 bard 2 rogue
Reply #4 - Nov 21st, 2014 at 7:52am
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Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Nov 21st, 2014 at 7:36am:
The grammar failure is also pretty obvious.


You flatter me.
  
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Re: 12 Fighter 6 bard 2 rogue
Reply #5 - Nov 21st, 2014 at 8:09am
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You flatter me.


Actually no, he's insulting you, but if you're that attention starved you might construe even negative attention as a good thing.   Huh
  
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Reply #6 - Nov 21st, 2014 at 8:29am
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DropBear wrote on Nov 21st, 2014 at 8:09am:
Actually no, he's insulting you, but if you're that attention starved you might construe even negative attention as a good thing.   Huh


  
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Reply #7 - Nov 21st, 2014 at 2:27pm
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You flatter me.

Well we all knew you were a phony, but this verifies it. You should just change your name, teh_bitch would be perfect.

Hi and welcome..
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Re: 12 Fighter 6 bard 2 rogue
Reply #8 - Nov 21st, 2014 at 3:49pm
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Stinky_Pinky wrote on Nov 21st, 2014 at 2:27pm:
Well we all knew you were a phony, but this verifies it. You should just change your name, teh_bitch would be perfect.

Hi and welcome..


I am really sorry to dissapoint you, but your flat-chested sister says otherwise.
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Re: 12 Fighter 6 bard 2 rogue
Reply #9 - Nov 22nd, 2014 at 12:06am
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Is that all, my sister might be flat chested, but yours likes eating my fartbox. If you're going to use the name dipshit live up to it.
  
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Reply #10 - Nov 22nd, 2014 at 3:09pm
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The most effective Bard split Ive played is a Dwarf Bard 16/Fighter 2/Rogue 2, in Legendary Dreadnought.
  
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Re: 12 Fighter 6 bard 2 rogue
Reply #11 - Nov 23rd, 2014 at 6:15am
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Astraghal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2014 at 3:09pm:
The most effective Bard split Ive played is a Dwarf Bard 16/Fighter 2/Rogue 2, in Legendary Dreadnought.

i'm still playing the "parody" build 12/6/2. the extra hp from defensive stance covers nicely for my sloppy play.
  
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Reply #12 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 1:25pm
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crunch wrote on Nov 23rd, 2014 at 6:15am:
i'm still playing the "parody" build 12/6/2. the extra hp from defensive stance covers nicely for my sloppy play.


Offence is the best form of defence.
  
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Reply #13 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 1:53pm
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Astraghal wrote on Nov 22nd, 2014 at 3:09pm:
The most effective Bard split Ive played is a Dwarf Bard 16/Fighter 2/Rogue 2, in Legendary Dreadnought.

The better split is 15/3/2 for tier 3 stalwart access and stance while still having +2 to stats song. 16 Bard offers less.

crunch wrote on Nov 23rd, 2014 at 6:15am:
i'm still playing the "parody" build 12/6/2. the extra hp from defensive stance covers nicely for my sloppy play.

It's my favorite version of swashbuckler. Any dwarf with stance using con to dmg. Third time I've rolled a swash. Tried dex and a str based before. The dwarf con in stance is way better.
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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #14 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 2:17pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 1:53pm:
The better split is 15/3/2 for tier 3 stalwart access and stance while still having +2 to stats song. 16 Bard offers less.


I haven't played DDO in so long that I can't recall why 16 levels of Bard was important at the time.
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Re: 12 Fighter 6 bard 2 rogue
Reply #15 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 2:53pm
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Astraghal wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 2:17pm:
I haven't played DDO in so long that I can't recall why 16 levels of Bard was important at the time.

I can only think of Otto's and Shout spells.
  

Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Re: 12 Fighter 6 bard 2 rogue
Reply #16 - Dec 2nd, 2014 at 2:58pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 2:53pm:
I can only think of Otto's and Shout spells.


It was Otto's.

Why is Stalwart access now more important than Otto's?
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Re: 12 Fighter 6 bard 2 rogue
Reply #17 - Dec 2nd, 2014 at 5:25pm
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Astraghal wrote on Dec 2nd, 2014 at 2:58pm:
It was Otto's.

Why is Stalwart access now more important than Otto's?

I dont bother with otto or fascinate. Safe to dump charisma and go con+int based for KtA in harper tree. Currently Im on Zoda's 12/6/2 defender build. I can hit like 1700 hp. If I had 6 more primal lives and 3 barb I'd break upper 1800s. Cant get that without stance. Also 25 prr, +3 to saves, +3 to armor and weapon enchantment.
  

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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #18 - Dec 2nd, 2014 at 5:39pm
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Im wondering.. if 'known the angels' is another way of saying 'sleeping with the fishes'?..

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Reply #19 - Dec 2nd, 2014 at 5:41pm
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You DO know.. he doesn't HAVE a sister.. but he DOES have a 12 year old little brother?

Now Timmy.. show us on the doll where Teh Troll touched you...
  
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Re: 12 Fighter 6 bard 2 rogue
Reply #20 - Dec 3rd, 2014 at 3:37am
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Rubbinns wrote on Dec 2nd, 2014 at 5:25pm:
I dont bother with otto or fascinate. Safe to dump charisma and go con+int based for KtA in harper tree.


You don't need to invest in Cha to use either of those.
  

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Reply #21 - Dec 3rd, 2014 at 6:31am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 3rd, 2014 at 3:37am:
You don't need to invest in Cha to use either of those.

depends. a mod of 10 gets a 54 to 64 which is no fail for almost everything except mob rolling 20
  

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Re: 12 Fighter 6 bard 2 rogue
Reply #22 - Dec 3rd, 2014 at 7:26am
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Rubbinns wrote on Dec 3rd, 2014 at 6:31am:
depends. a mod of 10 gets a 54 to 64 which is no fail for almost everything except mob rolling 20


Skill based DCs are easy to jack up.

d20+23 heroic ranks+8 epic ranks+20 item=51-71

Plus greater heroism.
Plus guild buffs.
Etc.

You can hit no fail with 8 charisma.
  

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Reply #23 - Dec 3rd, 2014 at 7:44am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 3rd, 2014 at 7:26am:
Skill based DCs are easy to jack up.

d20+23 heroic ranks+8 epic ranks+20 item=51-71

Plus greater heroism.
Plus guild buffs.
Etc.

You can hit no fail with 8 charisma.


Yes, charisma is junk.
  
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Re: 12 Fighter 6 bard 2 rogue
Reply #24 - Dec 3rd, 2014 at 7:49am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 3rd, 2014 at 7:26am:
You can hit no fail with 8 charisma.

im at a 63 before charisma modifier.  if i push my cha to 30-easy to do even as a third stat. i hit 73-with gh, 4 skill tome, maxed ranks, ship buffs.

low 50s will fail often around 40%. and a 50-70 is going to fail for coup de grace. laughably so. isnt needed, but in case one wanted reliable coup and no fail will dc.
  

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