I have a theory. WB buys turbine to hit them with some money and turn a proffit.

The people at WB think oh hey if these guys ad some marketing money they would be making a decent return.

THe guys at WB meet with people like cuntovan and realise that it is not that they don't have enough money for advertising, it is that everyone that works there is completely fucking stupid.

They realized they got fucked in the purchase and sent some guys from advertising/marketing to squeze the dumb fuckers that are left, i mean we must be dumb fuckers if we play the shit these fucktards produce, out of every bit as much cash as they can before thier boss shoves their nuts up their asshole.

Just a fucking theory, mines as good as yours, or not whatever fuck off

DropBear wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 10:22pm:


Lol if I worked for turdbine half those fuckers would have been long ago. I have been in sales for over 20 years and know how to fucking make money selling shit people fucking want.

Fucking seriously though you can just tell these fuckers are too comfortable with their job. they have reached that don't give a fuck stage at thier job. What WB needs to do is fire every motherfucker there, hire a bunch of grad students and tell them that if they can fix this fucking shit in a year they will all get to work on something that doesn't fucking suck.

You could bet your wife's twat half this shit would get fixed.

They would go hey lets ask the customers what they fucking want, we would say fix the fucking bugs, they would fix the fucking bugs and Qualahor would offer to lick the shit off their assholes so they don't get chaffed from the Toilet Paper.

See, I like your thinking, but poor Hendrik and co would have to stock up on lip balm because there would be a whole bunch of new assholes to kiss.
So your idea is not very fair on them.....   

Who Cares wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 10:28pm:


Let me stop you right there!
See this is where you went wrong.
This is what most commercial organisations with competent mgmt aspire to.  This doesn't apply to Turdbine - they're a half way house for semi-capable developers looking to get something on their CV to get a real job (elsewhere).  Cordo and Tolero are like adopted strays - someone felt sorry for them and gave them a place to stay for awhile, but couldn't get them to leave.

Who Cares wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 10:28pm:

Now this is just crazy talk.  You must be joking right....   
Seriously, why the hell would anyone ask customers what they want?
When you regard your customer base with such blatant contempt, why would you even care what they think?  They're all stupid fucking nerds playing a video game - you just tell them what they want and need.  Job done and watch the cash roll in!
Business is easy dude!
That's how DDO arrived at where it is today.
And this is where the rot started:
Fernando

Now stop trying to rock the boat with all these crazy ideas!
Turbine is about to become a mobile developer.  DDOZynga here we come.

You had me until here.....   
Who Cares wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 11:01pm:



Who Cares wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 11:01pm:

Eloquently and succinctly said good sir!

I'm sure my sweety has some Midol in the medicine cabinet.. would you like some for the cramps and bloating Who Cares?

As for your 'Sales' experience.. sales is not selling people what they want, sales is convincing people they want what you're selling

Who Cares wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 9:24pm:

Nope

WB bought Turbine for the LoTR License.
That allowed them to consolidate the license to get it almost all encompassing in the edition world like the old ICE license was in it's time.
( Basically they have : Games [ board and computer ], Films, RPGs, and all the derived products, ICE had almost the same thing
[ they didn't have films, and in 1982 Saul Zaentz didn't think computer games would be what they are now, so it wasn't written ] )

DDO was just the bastard child of the Atari Debacle that came along with the deal, WB never cared about it.


Just look at things that way :

- DDO European Closure : Players left hanging 4 months before they get their characters back.
Both European Servers are merged with G-Land.
Players have to create a new account, subscribe again to the game ( and make sure the old Codemasters Subscription was cancelled )

- LoTRO Europe Closure : Players update their game after a planned maintenance window ( 12 Hours ), and they are automatically sent to
Turbine New Servers, that are the exact copy of the old Codemasters Servers after agreeing for the transfer of their subscription.

Turbine had the power to do things fast and cleanly for LoTRO, while they couldn't be arsed to do it for DDO...
There was less than a year between both closure/transfer. So technology was not the reason they didn't do for DDO what they did for LoTRO.

Now with the orders to 'Go Mobile', we are going to see Clash Of Clans : Middle Earth Edition, Turbine Powered and lost of stuff like that...

The problem is that the fucking PHB at WB have no clue about mobile game design... Most of the hits are done by small companies of 5-10 people at first...
and when it becomes a hit they become a 100+ company to support the game, which allows them to roll out more games. ( usually derivative of the same basic idea :
Angry Bird and all the variations thereof; Candy Crush and all the derivations thereof; Clash of Clans or Goodgame Empire and all the derivations thereof )
So they are going to Fail... Totally... But well, that's for the future. 

ZooperDooper wrote on Dec 7^th, 2014 at 11:38am:

lol. Just enough time to get truly invested before it happens again 

Who Cares wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 10:28pm:


Obviously you're in sales, you seem like a real people person.

5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 8^th, 2014 at 4:54am:


Heroes of Neverwinter