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Teh_Troll Ex Member	14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Dec 9^th, 2014 at 4:13pm	Print Post
	Why haven't i seen this splash so far ?


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DoRayEgon Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1042 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2014	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #1 - Dec 9^th, 2014 at 5:12pm	Print Post
	No one cares to be centered anymore and lose heavy armor? I'm assuming the 1 monk for deft strikes and I believe you have to be centered for it to work right....


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omgspiderz Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 151 Joined: Oct 18^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #2 - Dec 9^th, 2014 at 6:19pm	Print Post
	I think 1 Paladin 5 ranger 14 monk would be as effective. You want 14 monk for that extra slow fall.
	« Last Edit: Dec 9^th, 2014 at 6:20pm by omgspiderz »
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Lelouch Shroud Slacker Offline What is a moron? A person playing ddo Posts: 1073 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2014	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #3 - Dec 9^th, 2014 at 7:23pm	Print Post
	Because 15 palie 5 ranger is better and you dont need to bother with centerd shit no evasion and crappy mrr prr /well compared to defense from shadowscale plate it would be quite retarded to do that split


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apparently bored Waterworks Kobold Offline Posts: 118 Joined: Mar 4^th, 2014	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #4 - Dec 9^th, 2014 at 7:43pm	Print Post
	cause not in builds?


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Teh_Troll Ex Member	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #5 - Dec 10^th, 2014 at 8:04am	Print Post
	Taking 15 Paladin would be dumb, since zeal does not affect ranged attacks at all. This Splash would Provide holy sword, slayer arrow, manyshot, 10 k stars and monk stances at the cost of not having evasion. Basically you would be trading evasion for more dps.
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Rincewind Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 97 Joined: Jun 12^th, 2013	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #6 - Dec 10^th, 2014 at 9:40am	Print Post
	Funny thing i was discussing this last night with a guildie...


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Lelouch Shroud Slacker Offline What is a moron? A person playing ddo Posts: 1073 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2014	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #7 - Dec 10^th, 2014 at 10:13am	Print Post
	Quote: Taking 15 Paladin would be dumb, since zeal does not affect ranged attacks at all. This Splash would Provide holy sword, slayer arrow, manyshot, 10 k stars and monk stances at the cost of not having evasion. Basically you would be trading evasion for more dps. You do realize that you cant get 10 k on that split, so 14 6 makes the only viable option for that, right? Since the 14 5 1 would just be a manyshot and then what version? ITs basically a spend 2 feats on 1 crit multi for manyshot only build. Rather imo retarded waste of potential as someone who played monkchers repeteater and random other ranged builds. You would be just a pyama wonabe monkcher without evasion without shadow fade without proper dodge score and without 10 k. Smart, right?
	« Last Edit: Dec 10^th, 2014 at 10:16am by Lelouch »

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Aeolwind HERALD OF HATE Offline DDO: More broken than peanut brittle Posts: 2074 Location: Sarlona Joined: Apr 13^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #8 - Dec 10^th, 2014 at 10:33am	Print Post
	Lelouch wrote on Dec 10^th, 2014 at 10:13am: Smart, right? I'd figured that out when he missed the builds forum.


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #9 - Dec 10^th, 2014 at 10:41am	Print Post
	14 Palladin/6 Monk if you want an archer.


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Teh_Troll Ex Member	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #10 - Dec 10^th, 2014 at 10:56am	Print Post
	Lelouch wrote on Dec 10^th, 2014 at 10:13am: You do realize that you cant get 10 k on that split, so 14 6 makes the only viable option for that, right? Since the 14 5 1 would just be a manyshot and then what version? ITs basically a spend 2 feats on 1 crit multi for manyshot only build. Rather imo retarded waste of potential as someone who played monkchers repeteater and random other ranged builds. You would be just a pyama wonabe monkcher without evasion without shadow fade without proper dodge score and without 10 k. Smart, right? Took ya long to figure that out� .
	« Last Edit: Dec 10^th, 2014 at 10:57am by »

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DoRayEgon Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1042 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2014	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #11 - Dec 10^th, 2014 at 11:15am	Print Post
	I only assumed melee, cause ranged made no sense. Stupid me.


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Kluege Dragon Raider Offline Hi Posts: 246 Location: Philly Joined: Aug 6^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #12 - Dec 10^th, 2014 at 11:23am	Print Post
	I think the 12m/6r/2p split for an archer is still best overall build. It is not new or interesting, but it is still overall the best imho. Going 14 paladin takes away from skills and feats that you need all for holy sword. I do not think it is worth it. Having the 6 ranger lives gives frees up feat slots and give you more skill points to work with.


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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #13 - Dec 10^th, 2014 at 12:03pm	Print Post
	The reason yu did not see Palchers is coz ur a troll, and turn to rock in broad daylight. And palchers only work in broad daylight.

	Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 7:06pm: The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics. Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed. Arkat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:14pm: And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently! Wow. Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School? No? Then STFU you fucking amateur. Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 12:03am: Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people. IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 5:40pm: Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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AtomicMew Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2073 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2011	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #14 - Dec 10^th, 2014 at 2:33pm	Print Post
	Kluege wrote on Dec 10^th, 2014 at 11:23am: I think the 12m/6r/2p split for an archer is still best overall build.� It is not new or interesting, but it is still overall the best imho.� Going 14 paladin takes away from skills and feats that you need all for holy sword.� I do not think it is worth it.� Having the 6 ranger lives gives frees up feat slots and give you more skill points to work with. New changes to overwhelming critical means you free up two feats, so 14/6 split is possible. Skills aren't that important. I think the 14/6 split is better, it's just that monkchers in general are not as popular as before.


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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1207 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #15 - Dec 10^th, 2014 at 3:47pm	Print Post
	What's wrong with 11 Ranger/9 Paly? Would that be workable? Lord knows it gives the character a shit-ton of awesome feats. After that its just a matter of choosing which ones you still need?


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ahti Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 284 Location: finland Joined: Jun 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #16 - Dec 10^th, 2014 at 7:26pm	Print Post
	ZooperDooper wrote on Dec 10^th, 2014 at 3:47pm: What's wrong with 11 Ranger/9 Paly? Would that be workable? Lord knows it gives the character a shit-ton of awesome feats. After that its just a matter of choosing which ones you still need? thats one fail ass aa;P


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #17 - Dec 10^th, 2014 at 10:42pm	Print Post
	AtomicMew wrote on Dec 10^th, 2014 at 2:33pm: New changes to overwhelming critical means you free up two feats, so 14/6 split is possible.� Skills aren't that important.� I think the 14/6 split is better, it's just that monkchers in general are not as popular as before.� A 14/6 split is possible, but it doesnt have enough feats to be optimal.

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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #18 - Dec 10^th, 2014 at 10:53pm	Print Post
	Kluege wrote on Dec 10^th, 2014 at 11:23am: I think the 12m/6r/2p split for an archer is still best overall build. Glad to see youre coming round. Drop paladin for fvs and youll finally be there.

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AtomicMew Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2073 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2011	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #19 - Dec 11^th, 2014 at 5:08am	Print Post
	Going by your ragenmo build: 1: Ranger 1: Point Blank Shot 2: Monk Bonus feat: Power Attack 3: Monk Monk Bonus feat: Deflect Arrows, Level feat: Cleave 6: Monk: Great Cleave 7: Monk: Monk Bonus feat: Zen Archery 9: Ranger: Ten-Thousand Stars 12: Ranger : Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons 15: Monk : Improved Precise Shot 18: Monk: Empower Healing Spell Epic: 21: (Level feat: Overwhelming Critical)) 24: (Level feat: Combat Archery) 26: (ED feat: Toughness) 27: (Level feat: Precision) 28: (ED feat: Toughness) You can drop power attack, cleave and great cleave. But you need to pick up master of forms, rapid shot and manyshot. You can potentially replace bow strength with harper strategic combat. So that's a net delta of zero feats. I don't know if strategic combat is optimal, but since you'll probably pick up know the angles anyway, it doesn't seem too costly. You can also potentially drop deflect arrows and/or empower heal - useful feats but by no means necessary.


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Cleridin Waterworks Kobold Offline Posts: 137 Joined: Aug 5^th, 2014	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #20 - Dec 11^th, 2014 at 9:20am	Print Post
	14/6 pally/monk is viable ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd26ScVj60E also Pele has a similar vid somewhere on youtube with 14/6 pally/monk EE FOT


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Kluege Dragon Raider Offline Hi Posts: 246 Location: Philly Joined: Aug 6^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #21 - Dec 11^th, 2014 at 10:27am	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Dec 10^th, 2014 at 10:53pm: Glad to see youre coming round. Drop paladin for fvs and youll finally be there. When they "fix" DG, then yeah, no reason to go 2 pal. 2 Fvs works better with spell version of DM. I am 100% on board. Funny thing is I have not played my moncher as of late. Never even a LR or ER to fix my feats.... still have PA, Cleave, GC....


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Kluege Dragon Raider Offline Hi Posts: 246 Location: Philly Joined: Aug 6^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #22 - Dec 11^th, 2014 at 10:32am	Print Post
	AtomicMew wrote on Dec 11^th, 2014 at 5:08am: Going by your ragenmo build: 1: Ranger 1: Point Blank Shot 2: Monk Bonus feat: Power Attack 3: Monk Monk Bonus feat: Deflect Arrows, Level feat: Cleave 6: Monk: Great Cleave 7: Monk: Monk Bonus feat: Zen Archery 9: Ranger: Ten-Thousand Stars 12: Ranger : Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons 15: Monk : Improved Precise Shot 18: Monk: Empower Healing Spell Epic: 21: (Level feat: Overwhelming Critical)) 24: (Level feat: Combat Archery) 26: (ED feat: Toughness) 27: (Level feat: Precision) 28: (ED feat: Toughness) You can drop power attack, cleave and great cleave.� But you need to pick up master of forms, rapid shot and manyshot.� You can potentially replace bow strength with harper strategic combat.� So that's a net delta of zero feats.� I don't know if strategic combat is optimal, but since you'll probably pick up know the angles anyway, it doesn't seem too costly.� You can also potentially drop deflect arrows and/or empower heal - useful feats but by no means necessary.� 12 monk gives you master of forms. You need GM of forms there. Rapid shot and Manyshot are granted via 6 lvls of ranger. So 3 feats back, one of which can be GM of forms and 2 others. i would pick up precision earlier and then take Epic DR or Epic Positive spell bonus. That leaves 1 totally open for anything flavor or icing on the cake type feat.


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AtomicMew Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2073 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2011	Re: 14 Paladin 5 Ranger 1 Monk Reply #23 - Dec 11^th, 2014 at 3:48pm	Print Post
	Kluege wrote on Dec 11^th, 2014 at 10:32am: 12 monk gives you master of forms.� You need GM of forms there.� Rapid shot and Manyshot are granted via 6 lvls of ranger.� So 3 feats back, one of which can be GM of forms and 2 others.� i would pick up precision earlier and then take Epic DR or Epic Positive spell bonus.� That leaves 1 totally open for anything flavor or icing on the cake type feat. Those feats are from Mukenmo's 12/6/2 split, not from the proposed 14/6 split.


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