CosmicCharlie wrote on May 5^th, 2015 at 2:26am:


I lol'd

5 Foot Step wrote on May 5^th, 2015 at 11:03pm:


Handwraps... Yeah, that might be it and i guess no one would be surprised if they did actually break it for them. I tested it on a dummy with unarmed (no handwraps, just regular no weapon).

I think both Rubbins and Dalsheel have a point.

I'd like to see a video compare of the two classes in a serious EE tough.

Unless you can have 100% armor piercing on all the time with high crit profile I think the barb is going to win easy. The self healing is important too and I can't even imagine how a rogue would heal when fighting melee since dodge is practically a gamble and prr is hard to get (if you don't have epic divine past lifes).

15 from planar focus (so if you are a mechanic or a stick build you lose TF)
30 from blitz (cause rogue ED SUCKS when it comes to dps and this game is almost all about fighting)
10 from light armor? (can't remember how much prr it gives)

55 prr....82 with all divine past lifes without sheltering bonus included. bonus with stances with monks levels. let's say 110 prr. Enough to tackle most EE with decent skillZ. What about healings?


Im really interested in exploits and functional builds. Please enlight me masters

Artorias wrote on May 6^th, 2015 at 3:38am:

For max armor piercing you want precision stance (25 %), dragongs edge (35%), ship buff (5%), grim precision (15%), piercing claritiy (10%), weaken undead (20%), improved destruction(15%) and assassins trick(25%) for a total of 150%.

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just-fucking-AMAZING

you have some skillZ Dal. Unless you used some kind of glitch,exploit or safe spot, in wich case, I admire you 

Rubbinns wrote on May 6^th, 2015 at 10:49am:

Sad, but true.

Dalsheel wrote on May 6^th, 2015 at 1:59pm:

herp durrrrr.

Who Cares wrote on May 6^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:


Tested on undead today. Quest of choice was of course the Mark of Death.

I could not land a sneak attack on the abbot no matter how much I tried.
On the other hand, deathknights got sneak attacked just fine. Screenshot: http://postimg.org/image/xyw6p5ual/

I suspect the Abbot is immune to deception. I'll try to get some screenshots when I run the quest normally and he aggros on someone else.

Just to be clear, I do not have a single point spent in the assassin tree, so no assassin's trick here.

PS: You got me for a moment there when I could not SA the Abbot

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Well obviously it wasn't true because you're still here posting drivel days later.

Rubbinns wrote on May 6^th, 2015 at 4:56pm:

Just be careful Rubbins with your logic.  Under normal circumstances I would tend to agree, but this is Turdbine.

Yes they're separate attributes, but that doesn't mean they're both used, checked in the appropriate order or even applied consistently.
The new wave of devs may not even know what those attributes are for and only use one or the other.

Ah Pook wrote on May 6^th, 2015 at 6:22pm:



Well Pooky,  It's a lot more than 50, and it's all the same quote that seems to make Yard peeved, so not much of a crush, more of a Vault-rainman. 

It also doesn't seem like Yard cares much about what any of us think, so poor social skills = natural fit for the vault! 

But all of his annoying and wankerish spamming aspects aside, if Yard's aim was to embarrass and whip Try_Hard into line and shut him down, he has been pretty spectacularly successful so far. Because the Try_Hard rubbish output has slowed to a trickle, a very careful posts trickle, seems like Try_Hard is trying his best to not feed the troll trolling him!! 

And whoever came up with "Try_Hard" thank you! it makes me LOL every time I have to skim over one of the fauxTroll's posts.