Cross posted from the mother forums:  https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/459818-Centered-Thief-Acrobat

With the changes in U25.2 making it almost mandatory to take 18 rogue, I have reworked my TA build.

Build goals:
High Trash DPS (AoE): Cleaves, Glancing Blows, Lay Waste, a lots of Sneak Damage
Good Boss DPS: High Fort Bypass (90%), Deception, Sky high doublestrike, Good single target DPS (4,700+)
High Surviability -- it doesn't need to tank a Death Knight, but it should be able to stand toe to toe with one: 38% Dodge, 109 PRR, Improved Defensive Roll (proc @ 50%; 80% chance), Respectable HP, High healing amp, Decent Saves, Strong Rogue skills: DD: 102 | Search: 117 | OL: 113 | Bluff: 78 | Hide/MS: 98
Needs to be a Staff build (Intent was to play with the new TA tree) and the Rogue Icon

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Class Split: 18 Rogue / 2 Monk (1: Rogue; 2 -Monk; 3-7: Rog; 8 Monk; 9-20 Rog)
Race: Human

Abilities:
Str: 34/38-- (13 base +6 tome +2 Completionist +1 GoTIB +8 item +2 ship +2 Lasting / +4 Tenser’s)
Dex: 58 / 64 -- (18 base +6 tome +7 Levels +2 completionist +2 Enh +11 item +3 insight +1 GoTIB +2 ship +2 lasting +4 Stance / +4 Tenser’s +2 Yugo)
Con: 38 / 42 -- (14 base +6 tome +2 completionist +1 ED +10 item +2 insight +1 GoTIB +2 Ship +2 lasting -2 Stance / +4 Tenser’s)
Int: 38 /41 -- (15 base +6 tome +2 completionist +1 GoTIB +8 Item +2 Insight +2 ship +2 Lasting / +11 Item)
Wis: 30 -- (9 base +6 tome +2 completionist +8 item +1 GoTIB +2 ship +2 lasting)
Cha: 21 -- (8 base +6 tome +2 completionist +1 GoTIB +2 ship +2 lasting)

Feats:
Passive Past Life: Paladin x3, Monk x3, Ranger x3, Rogue x3, Completionist, PDK x3
Epic Past Life: Doublestrike x3, Brace x3, Colors x3, Weapon x3, PoL&D x3, Deflect Energy x1
Base: Power Attack (1), Cleave (1), Completionist (3), Adept of Forms (6), Great Cleave (9), IC: Bludgeoning (12), Master of Forms (15), Improved Two Handed Fighting (18), Grand Master of Forms (21), Overwhelming Critical (24), Greater Two Handed Fighting (27)
Destiny: Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting (26), Perfect Two-Handed Fighting (28)
Rogue: Opportunist (12), Defensive Roll (15), Slippery Mind (18)
Monk: Dodge (2), Two Handed Fighting (8)

Skills:
Disable Device: 102 (23 ranks + 8 epic +2 completionist +4 tome +15 Int mod +3 Luck +4 morale +1 profane +1 PL +20 item +5 enhanced +6 exceptional +3 guild +7 tools)
Search: 117 [97 on sheet] (23 ranks + 8 epic +2 completionist +5 tome +15 Int mod +3 Luck +4 morale +1 profane +1 PL +20 item +5 enhanced +6 exceptional +3 guild +1 insight (find traps scroll +20 roll))
Open Lock: 113 (23 ranks + 8 epic +2 completionist +4 tome +27 dex mod +3 Luck +4 morale +1 profane +20 item +5 enhanced +6 exceptional +3 guild +7 tools)
Spot: 57 (23 ranks + 8 epic +2 completionist +4 tome +10 wis mod +2 Luck +4 morale +1 profane +3 guild)
Bluff: 78 (23 ranks + 8 epic +2 completionist +4 tome +5 Cha mod +2 Luck +4 morale +1 profane +20 item +3 guild +6 Enhancement)
UMD: 56 (23 ranks + 8 Epic + 3 tome +2 completionist +5 Cha mod +2 luck + 4 morale +1 Profane +1 PL + 5 item +3 guild)
Heal: 60 (11 ranks + 8 Epic + 4 tome +2 completionist +10 Wis mod +2 luck + 4 morale +1 Profane +15 item +3 guild)
Jump: 51 [no buffs] (11 ranks + 8 Epic + 4 tome +2 completionist +12 Str +2 luck +1 Profane +3 Enhancement +3 guild +2 Acrobat)
Tumble: 58 (4 ranks + 8 Epic + 4 tome +2 completionist +27 Dex mod +2 luck + 4 morale +1 Profane +3 Enhancement +3 guild)
Hide/Move Silently: 98 (23 ranks + 8 Epic + 4 tome +2 completionist +27 Dex mod +2 luck + 4 morale +1 Profane +20 item +3 Enhancement +3 guild +1 PL)
Balance: 76 (23 ranks + 8 Epic + 4 tome +2 completionist +27 Dex mod +2 luck + 4 morale +1 Profane +3 Enhancement +3 guild +2 Acrobat)

Enhancements:

Harper (8 ap)
C: Agent of Good (1)
I: Harper Enchantment (2), Traveler's Toughness II (2)
II: Know the Angles III (3)

Rogue: Assassin (21 ap)
C: Knife in the Darkness (1), Dagger in the Back (1), Assassin’s Trick (1), Nimbleness (1),
I: Sneak Attack Training (2), Faster Sneaking III (3),
II: Sneak Attack Training (2), Damage Boost III (3), Venomed Blades III (3)
III: Sneak Attack Training (2), Dex (2)

Rogue: Thief-Acrobat (39 ap)
C: Staff Control (1), Stick Fighting (1), Tumbler (1), Kip Up (1), Cartwheel Charge (1)
I: Acrobat Staff Training (2), Thief Acrobatics III (3), Fast Movement (2)
II: Acrobat Staff Training (2), Quick Strike III (6)
III: Acrobat Staff Training (2), Sweeping Strikes III (3)
IV: Acrobat Staff Training (2), Improved Defensive Roll III (3), Staff Lunge I (1)
V: Acrobat Staff Training (2), Staff Specialization (2), Vault (2), Spinning Staff Wall (2)

Human: (5 ap)
C: Human Versatility: Damage (1), Dex (2)
I: Improved Recovery (2)

Ninja Spy: (7 ap)
C: Basic Ninja Training (1)
I:  Sneak Attack Training (2), Acrobatics II (2)
II: Fist of Iron

Core Stats:
HP: 824 Standing | 936 self-buffed | 1,020 Earth Stance
Positive Spell Power: 259 (138 Devotion + 36 Implement +45 heal skill +25 Ardor potion (Alchemical) +15 guild)
Healing Amp: 315% ((30 pally PLs + 60 Shroud + 40 Bracers +45 Exceptional +20 guild +20 Human) +100) / 100
Average Healing: Large Silver Flame: 788 hp | Cocoon: ~158hp | Sovereign (Anniversary/Store) Pot: 410hp + ~123 hp per tick
Incorp: 10%
Max Dodge: 38 (25 base +5 Spinning Staff +6 TA +2 Airship)
Dodge: 32% standing; 38% max - (10% item +5% Imp Uncanny +5% Spinning Staff +3% Unearthly Reactions +3% Dodge +2% Acrobat +10% Nimbleness +4% Centered)
PRR: 105 (155 w/ SSW) / 51% (61%) mitigation (+30 sheltering +21 Divine ETRs +9 PDK PL +30 Blitz +15 Artifact)
MRR: 59 / 35% Mitigation (30 Sheltering +25 Insight +4 Armor)
Total Mitigation: 86.4% (Displacement) | 78.2% (Standing) | 72.8% (no concealment)
Defensive Roll: 81% chance to reduce damage by 50% when below 50% health.
Fort: 140% Standing / 190% with Gear Swap (100 / 150 Item +15% ship)

Saves:
Fort: 57 (9 Base +4 Epic +14 Con +4 Morale +11 Resistance +2 Luck +1 Competence +3 Guild +4 Insightful +3 Brace)
Ref: 81 (14 Base +4 Epic +27 Dex +4 Morale +11 Resistance +2 Luck +1 Competence +3 Guild +4 Insightful +6 Unearthly Reactions +3 Brace +2 exceptional)
Will: 50 (56 vs enchantment spells) (8 Base +4 Epic +10 Wisdom +4 Morale +11 Resistance +2 Luck +1 Competence +3 Guild +4 Insightful +3 Brace|| +4 Raging Focus +2 Bard PL)

Epic Destiny –Legendary Dreadnought
I: Extra Action Boost III (3), Con (2)
II: Momentum Swing III (3), Improved Power Attack (2)
III: Lay Waste (1), Critical Damage III (3), Haste Boost III (3)
IV:
V: Devasting Critical (2), Advancing blows (2)
VI: Masters Blitz (2)
Twists: Wild Weapons (4) or Grim Precision (3), Dance of Flowers (1), Unearthly Reactions, Cocoon (1)

Gear:
Trinket: Planar Focus of Prowess +3 Insightful Dex [Eldrich Saves Ritual || Epic Litany [eldrich saves ritual] (Green: iDex +2|Blue/Yellow: Open)
Head: Dragon Masque (Yellow: Draconic Soul Gem | Colorless: Globe of True Imperial Blood )
Neck: Shroud of the Ardent (Green: False Life 40| Yellow: +8 Int)
Goggles: Epic Mentau’s (Green: +2 Good Luck |Yellow: +2 iCon)
Bracers: HA 40 of Superior Parry
Body: Flawless Black Dragon Robe (Blue: Heavy Fort) || ToEE Fire Absorb Robe (Blue: Golem's Heart)
Cloak: Mysterious Cloak: 45 HA and 25 MRR (Green: +8 Str Colorless: +8 Wis) | Swap prismatic Cloaks
Ring: Omniscience
Ring: Health 10 or Dodge 10%
Boots: Epic Boots of the Innocent (Green: +250 Spell Points | Blue: +2 iInt)
Gloves: EE Backstabbers (Yellow: Deathblock)
Belt: Battlerager’s harness (Green: Golem's Heart)
Quiver: Epic Quiver of Alacrity
Weapon: Sierth (Adamantine Ritual I) (Red: 138 Devotion) | Thunder Forged Q-Staff 1st Degree Burns/Dragon’s Edge/Mortal Fear (Orange: Meteoric Star Ruby | Red: Devotion 138 | Colorless: +2 iWis)

DPS Calcs: Single Target only, not factoring in Momentum Swing or Special Attacks

EE Bruntsmash test: 5,875 (Starting Blitz on Bruntsmash using Sireth)
DPS Sireth: ~5,648 Blitz | ~6,188 MP boosted | 7,418 Haste+MP

Weapon: (with mods): +12 6.25[1d10] 13-20x3|19-20x5 Sireth, Spear of the Sky (Red: 138 Devotion)

Melee Power: 136 (24 Epic power + 18 LD Cores + 70 Blitz + 6 Combat Style +5 Assassin cores +10 Tier V Acrobat Training +3 Harper)
Damage Mod: 110 for Sireth / 114 for TF (+12 / +16 weapon +11 Enh Trees + 11 deadly + 4 Artifact/Profane +40 Dex +7 KtA +10 Power Attack +3 Alchemical +5 Advancing Blows +3 monk +2 Guild (Hobgoblin)
Fortification Bypass: 75% standing | 90% when needed (25% Assassin's Trick +35% Dragons Edge +10% Opportunist +5% Airship | +15% Grim Precision)
Double Strike: 80% (21% quick strikes (25% 10 sec out of 12) +3% Opportunist +5% Perfect TWF +9 Epic PL +12% Item +20% TA Cores +10% GMoA)
Seeker: 24 (10 Seeker +2 exc seeker +6 airship +6 ED)
SA damage: 65.5 per swing (13 dice +3 past lives +8 SA +9 iSA)
Deception proc: ~76.9% (+10% improved deception) ^~13.9 swings per 4 sec window) – 3.48 swings per sec

Looks like a awesome build, I look forward to trying it out next life

WeHaveLived wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 12:02am:


Because I didn't change it from a prior incarnation.  There is no reason anymore for lvl 1 to be monk..and it should be rogue (not that you need the skill points.. but why not).

In an earlier version I needed it there to make the feats work, but that is no longer required. 

Good catch, I'll update the OP

Rubbinns wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 5:02pm:

I told him that over and over again, but he is too stupid to listen to reason.

Quote:

Because i play the game, unlike you.

Currently I am planning on going with Black Dragon Robes and Omniscience for general questing and swap back to the ToEE robes (for the additional Fort and Fire Absorb)

Ash wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 7:55pm:

Sireth has supreme good, cloudburst and lightning strike. You call that "not many" ? KK !

Ash wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

Doesn't matter, you hit multiple targets through cleaving aka aoe attacks, making it effectively better than you think. A dps build is supposed to fit in as much damage as possible, otherwise it will be gimped. You have so much ap left to spend and you are honestly telling me that you can't afford it ? Learn how to build. This shit as you call it is must have when using sireth for example.

Ash wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 7:32pm:

they do not. check with them on and off. i have 40 set and shroud. tested on character sheet. and both are the same bonus type.

Ash wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 7:32pm:

scroll it.

Ash wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 7:32pm:

can drow seal. but tactics is meh anyway.

Ash wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 7:32pm:

not something that is needed.

Ash wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 7:32pm:

in ld+harper pin+fom pot. i guess disco balls, but that's rare.

Ash wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 7:32pm:

not an issue

Ash wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 7:32pm:

epic ring of stalker is exceptional 3. it's a gain.

Ash wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 7:32pm:

Ash wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 7:32pm:

that is a loss. against undeads it's only 7. manslayer on ring can make up for some of that, however.

loss of 1 deadly, 1 dodge, 1 to all saves, 4 vs enchantments, 35 fort, and spike gaurd. You gain around 3 slots too.

Ash wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 10:06pm:

i can log in and check. i stopped wearing mine around the hamp pass because they were not stacking.
{edit just checked they do stack. maybe it was something to do with barb. that is when i stopped wearing them}
Ash wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 10:06pm:

didnt even know that.
(edit found it u21 fix All item effects that were previously called "Exceptional Sneak Attack Bonus" are now called "Insightful Sneak Attack Bonus" to reflect their actual bonus type. The functionality of these effects has not changed.)
Ash wrote on May 8^th, 2015 at 10:06pm:

the slots arent much indeed. scrolling buffs isnt much of a concern to me. i just stop and scroll. i do it for nightshield, fom, gh, dw, tensers, etc anyway.

i actually threw out my omniscience ;p

Updated the OP with the changes discussed. 

Was quite pleased.. ran a quick EE Bruntsmash DPS test and clocked in at 5,875 in LD.  Actual performance in quests should be in the low 6,000's

Happy to look at it if I can get a link (search-foo is lacking tonight). But I would be surprised if that split still makes sense now that they added 20% double strike to the lvl 18 core

taco wrote on May 9^th, 2015 at 2:26am:

no, i meant zeus. it is defensively the better stick build. cartwheel is way better dps. only reason haek took 6 back then was for stalwart stance which required 6 levels. updated today i dont see why he would need more than 4, maybe less if youre willing to give up a twist for DM.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/435435-Zeus-God-of-Thunder-and-Lightni...