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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3489 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Council Forums Reply #100 - May 20^th, 2015 at 1:33am	Print Post
	volt_ wrote on May 19^th, 2015 at 8:35pm: Img to super secret PC forums: http://i.imgur.com/Fb3CveF.png Laughing really horrorshow


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Sim-Sala-Bim Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Wha...? Posts: 5356 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Council Forums Reply #101 - May 20^th, 2015 at 1:49am	Print Post
	volt_ wrote on May 19^th, 2015 at 8:35pm: Img to super secret PC forums: http://i.imgur.com/Fb3CveF.png Nice.


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qweeve DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 463 Location: Pa Joined: Nov 18^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Council Forums Reply #102 - May 20^th, 2015 at 1:51am	Print Post
	Wow, lot's of great stuff! Thanks so much Chai for sharing the info!


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Sim-Sala-Bim Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Wha...? Posts: 5356 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Council Forums Reply #103 - May 20^th, 2015 at 1:57am	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on May 19^th, 2015 at 11:10pm: The PC forums are down and my post history in them is gone. For me at least, they've never been taken down previously, even after members were removed for leaking. They're fools if they think you're DDO PC Transparency. When I read what I just wrote. Well, they're fools. So...


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KilgoreTrout Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 214 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: Council Forums Reply #104 - May 20^th, 2015 at 2:39am	Print Post
	Just want to say nice work on getting that up on here, so quickly and in such a readable format.


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Angry Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1699 Joined: Feb 13^th, 2014	Re: Council Forums Reply #105 - May 20^th, 2015 at 2:49am	Print Post
	Am I the only one who thinks of this as a total disaster? What Turbine should do now is cancel the PC.. and with it any potential effect that the PC could have had. So, thank you dear leaker. I hope you are proud of yourself. No go hit yourself real hard with a big black rubber cock and DIAF.
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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 10011 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Council Forums Reply #106 - May 20^th, 2015 at 3:30am	Print Post
	I'll have to agree with Thaz on that one... People need to learn how to leak things the right way. Oh well, it was bound to happen when you look at this year PC members...

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NOTSunnyshadow Out of Order Offline Kobold remember waterworks! Posts: 2193 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2014	Re: Council Forums Reply #107 - May 20^th, 2015 at 3:51am	Print Post
	Angry wrote on May 20^th, 2015 at 2:49am: Am I the only one who thinks of this as a total disaster? What Turbine should do now is cancel the PC.. and with it any potential effect that the PC could have had. So, thank you dear leaker. I hope you are proud of yourself. No go hit yourself real hard with a big black rubber cock and DIAF. Ah. Always the charmer. They should've done away the PC when they saw the members they got.

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Cow humper Ex Member	Re: Council Forums Reply #108 - May 20^th, 2015 at 4:12am	Print Post
	Angry wrote on May 20^th, 2015 at 2:49am: Am I the only one who thinks of this as a total disaster? What Turbine should do now is cancel the PC.. and with it any potential effect that the PC could have had. So, thank you dear leaker. I hope you are proud of yourself. No go hit yourself real hard with a big black rubber cock and DIAF. Total disaster. Except, not. Thanks to Strake and PC Transparency.


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merciless Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 273 Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Council Forums Reply #109 - May 20^th, 2015 at 4:24am	Print Post
	Disaster? Depends what you mean. depends if you thought the pc was good idea in the first place or not. if the former then in terms of probable outcome, then yes, it was always going to be a disaster, given turbines past history of heavy-handed and poorly thought out respones to any " infringement". the result will either be a shutdown of the pc, or a pc totally populated by yes men and fanbois. if the latter, then not a disaster. What this was never going to result in, was a real increase in transparency, other than a fleeting one.
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Angry Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1699 Joined: Feb 13^th, 2014	Re: Council Forums Reply #110 - May 20^th, 2015 at 4:29am	Print Post
	Quote: Total disaster. Except, not. Thanks to Strake and PC Transparency. The whole idea of the PC is to get feedback from a smaller group of ppl, before showing the ideas to the public. The ideas on the PC forums may change a lot from their original state, and they don't really want the larger masses to flip out over things that may or may not reach live. Posting the threads publicly completely defeats the purpose of the PC... With such a breach of the NDA, it means that the players cannot be trusted to follow the PC rules, and if we cannot be trusted, Turbine cannot give us any more information. So, like I said, thank you very much for hurting the player communication, no matter how broken it was. You may think you are offering transparency, but in fact what this will result in is the devs telling us even less, and the players having less chance to offer input. So, Kudos to you. And yes, I do feel like one rotten egg reflects badly on all of us.
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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4380 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Council Forums Reply #111 - May 20^th, 2015 at 4:34am	Print Post
	merciless wrote on May 20^th, 2015 at 4:24am: Disaster? Depends what you mean. depends if you thought the pc was good idea in the first place or not. if the former then in terms of probable outcome, then yes, it was always going to be a disaster, given turbines past history of heavy-handed and poorly thought out respones to any " infringement". the result will either be a shutdown of the pc, or a pc totally populated by yes men and fanbois. if the latter, then not a disaster. What this was never going to result in, was a real increase in transparency, other than a fleeting one. If the PC can stop just one of those brain farts from the devs hitting live, they served their purpose. I don't care about the politics and other BS. Players like Munk had a chance to give feedback. Sure they could ignore it, but chances are some of it gets through. Losing the PC means losing any opportunity for players to help those brain dead muppets keep this game alive. No PC means no review of anything until Lama and we all know by then it's "too late" to make changes, so we literally get whatever shit comes out the devs heads - completely un-vetted.

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Cow humper Ex Member	Re: Council Forums Reply #112 - May 20^th, 2015 at 4:38am	Print Post
	Angry wrote on May 20^th, 2015 at 4:29am: The whole idea of the PC is to get feedback from a smaller group of ppl, before showing the ideas to the public. The ideas on the PC forums may change a lot from their original state, and they don't really want the larger masses to flip out over things that may or may not reach live. Posting the threads publicly completely defeats the purpose of the PC... With such a breach of the NDA, it means that the players cannot be trusted to follow the PC rules, and if we cannot be trusted, Turbine cannot give us any more information. So, like I said, thank you very much for hurting the player communication, no matter how broken it was. You may think you are offering transparency, but in fact what this will result in is the devs telling us even less, and the players having less chance to offer input. So, Kudos to you. And yes, I do feel like one rotten egg reflects badly on all of us. I was never fan of PC and I am not a fan of current DDO (not that like last year's PC helped in any way, right?). So I don't give a shit.
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mudfud Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1123 Joined: Nov 17^th, 2011	Re: Council Forums Reply #113 - May 20^th, 2015 at 4:54am	Print Post
	Angry wrote on May 20^th, 2015 at 4:29am: The whole idea of the PC is to get feedback from a smaller group of ppl, before showing the ideas to the public. The ideas on the PC forums may change a lot from their original state, and they don't really want the larger masses to flip out over things that may or may not reach live. Posting the threads publicly completely defeats the purpose of the PC... With such a breach of the NDA, it means that the players cannot be trusted to follow the PC rules, and if we cannot be trusted, Turbine cannot give us any more information. So, like I said, thank you very much for hurting the player communication, no matter how broken it was. You may think you are offering transparency, but in fact what this will result in is the devs telling us even less, and the players having less chance to offer input. So, Kudos to you. And yes, I do feel like one rotten egg reflects badly on all of us. It's already been said by an ex-dev turbine doesn't care for opinions. They already know what they are going to do when they announce it. The only reason they ask for opinions is to make it seem like they actually care, and when they do change something it's because they chose to, not because of feedback. The players council is a sham anyways. Turbine chose it, not the players.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Council Forums Reply #114 - May 20^th, 2015 at 5:15am	Print Post
	Angry wrote on May 20^th, 2015 at 2:49am: Am I the only one who thinks of this as a total disaster? What Turbine should do now is cancel the PC.. and with it any potential effect that the PC could have had. So, thank you dear leaker. I hope you are proud of yourself. No go hit yourself real hard with a big black rubber cock and DIAF. All I'm reading from this is : "whaaa, whaaa, whaaa I blame you for some petty bullshit and turbine being retarded, whaaa" Oh, noes, the poor PC! What will this game do now? The PC was making it so much better

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Shuy Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 613 Joined: Jun 29^th, 2013	Re: Council Forums Reply #115 - May 20^th, 2015 at 5:29am	Print Post
	Angry wrote on May 20^th, 2015 at 4:29am: The whole idea of the PC is to get feedback from a smaller group of ppl, before showing the ideas to the public. The ideas on the PC forums may change a lot from their original state, and they don't really want the larger masses to flip out over things that may or may not reach live. Posting the threads publicly completely defeats the purpose of the PC... With such a breach of the NDA, it means that the players cannot be trusted to follow the PC rules, and if we cannot be trusted, Turbine cannot give us any more information. So, like I said, thank you very much for hurting the player communication, no matter how broken it was. You may think you are offering transparency, but in fact what this will result in is the devs telling us even less, and the players having less chance to offer input. So, Kudos to you. And yes, I do feel like one rotten egg reflects badly on all of us. That is the point. It's the WHOLE IDEA that is wrong. As I read those threads, they are full of people who just say "yes this is good, I approve" without understanding where the game is or what the game needs. With a small group like the PC, the Developers can just go on with their ideas ignoring what those 20 people are saying. JUST. LIKE. LAMANNIA. I dare you to fucking show the Manyshot and 10k Stars thread or even the loot thread in the official forum with the ideas presented on the PC thread, you will see another angry mob raise.


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 10011 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Council Forums Reply #116 - May 20^th, 2015 at 6:38am	Print Post
	Quote: (not that like last year's PC helped in any way, right?). Depends.... We killed the Listen Skill Change, The 20th Completion List changes... and I'm missing one or two... Even if you don't trust me... Trust me, you really really would have hated these changes.

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Cow humper Ex Member	Re: Council Forums Reply #117 - May 20^th, 2015 at 6:47am	Print Post
	Flav wrote on May 20^th, 2015 at 6:38am: Depends.... We killed the Listen Skill Change, The 20th Completion List changes... and I'm missing one or two... Even if you don't trust me... Trust me, you really really would have hated these changes. The problem with this is that a lot of shit went through anyway. And that made me quit the game. So it really doesn't matter if you would add slightly bit more shit if there was no PC. The result would be the same for me.
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Bacardi Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 362 Joined: Oct 12^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Council Forums Reply #118 - May 20^th, 2015 at 7:09am	Print Post
	Flav wrote on May 20^th, 2015 at 6:38am: Depends.... We killed the Listen Skill Change, The 20th Completion List changes... and I'm missing one or two... Even if you don't trust me... Trust me, you really really would have hated these changes. What if they just introduced some terrible (never going to happen because of the players outcry/rage) ideas just to prove your opinion was taken into consideration? Hmmmmmmm nah Turbine would never do something like that

	Epoch wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 4:46am: I can tell by your typing that you are an uneducated fuckwit.� This explains why you think books are bad.� I bet you think school is hard and you shouldn't have to repeat 7th grade again this year.
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Bacardi Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 362 Joined: Oct 12^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Council Forums Reply #119 - May 20^th, 2015 at 7:17am	Print Post
	Littany of the Player Council Quest Part 2 Answering to Jerry`s Avatar at a cage If you fail to answer correctly you`ll be forced to watch 6 hours of DdoStream in Polish. If you succeed you`ll be NDA free forever. Question number 9 If the Evil Severlin succeeds in his plans to grasp the power of the gods, and Sir NoDice orders a full assault of more crappy loot. Would you Quit? Knowing you would be fighting an immortal that would surely ignore you all? Option 1 I would follow the orders i was given because they know better. Option 2 Forget that. It's not my fight, I'd leave the PC and go at THE VAULT where the Severlin would ever trod and released stuff.

	Epoch wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 4:46am: I can tell by your typing that you are an uneducated fuckwit.� This explains why you think books are bad.� I bet you think school is hard and you shouldn't have to repeat 7th grade again this year.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Council Forums Reply #120 - May 20^th, 2015 at 7:24am	Print Post
	Flav wrote on May 20^th, 2015 at 6:38am: , The 20th Completion List changes... What were they planning for 20th lists? Let me guess, 1 item per list? Or changing it to 100th completion?

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Shuy Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 613 Joined: Jun 29^th, 2013	Re: Council Forums Reply #121 - May 20^th, 2015 at 8:30am	Print Post
	Flav wrote on May 20^th, 2015 at 6:38am: Depends.... We killed the Listen Skill Change, The 20th Completion List changes... and I'm missing one or two... Even if you don't trust me... Trust me, you really really would have hated these changes. Put those suggestions on the open forums. See if people would like them. You would have done exactly what 100x more people would have. Nothing to feel particularly proud about. Noone would have ever let those changes through.


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Angry Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1699 Joined: Feb 13^th, 2014	Re: Council Forums Reply #122 - May 20^th, 2015 at 8:45am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on May 20^th, 2015 at 5:15am: All I'm reading from this is : "whaaa, whaaa, whaaa I blame you for some petty bullshit and turbine being retarded, whaaa" Oh, noes, the poor PC! What will this game do now? The PC was making it so much better Dear Ruby, The PC has a lot of flaws, yes.. but also a lot of potential. I still love this game.. unlike most of you here, so it pisses me off when pricks intentionally sabotage something that could have been a good thing.


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Bacardi Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 362 Joined: Oct 12^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Council Forums Reply #123 - May 20^th, 2015 at 9:10am	Print Post
	Angry wrote on May 20^th, 2015 at 8:45am: Blah Blah Blah I AM NOT SPECIAL ANYMORE AND I HATE YOU ALL FOR TAKING IT AWAY FROM ME

	Epoch wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 4:46am: I can tell by your typing that you are an uneducated fuckwit.� This explains why you think books are bad.� I bet you think school is hard and you shouldn't have to repeat 7th grade again this year.
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NoGoodDoc Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 261 Joined: Jul 10^th, 2013	Re: Council Forums Reply #124 - May 20^th, 2015 at 9:37am	Print Post
	Strakeln wrote on May 20^th, 2015 at 12:26am: Head on over to VaultLeaks for your fill of PC transparency. Big props to the leaker! Holy Mary, mother of god! Look at that. Please send my sincerest thanks to the person who is responsible for that info.


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