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18Lock/1FVS/1Sorc
Jun 22nd, 2015 at 8:49am
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Wondering if EB builds stacks of Scourge Tier 1 AoV and Conflagration/Electrocution/Erosion from Tier 1 Savants and thinking along these lines...

Conflagration +25 SP to Fire + Scourge with +30 SP to Fire (Fiend Pact), +30 SP to Light/Alignment, (Utterdark Blast in TS, Chaos in SE, Light in ES) and +30 Physical (Penetrating Blast in TS)

Looks like tons of synergy everywhere depending on Lock Enhancements.

So many numbers ffs, Extra Spell Power worth losing Capstone?
  
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Re: 18Lock/1FVS/1Sorc
Reply #1 - Jun 22nd, 2015 at 8:54am
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not to mention +10 Fire/Sonic/Acid from Savant Core 1 and 2% Crit Force, Light, Sonic/Acid (4% Crit on Fire if in Fiend Pact).

Hmmm
  
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Re: 18Lock/1FVS/1Sorc
Reply #2 - Jun 22nd, 2015 at 11:17am
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Conflagration shouldn't work, according to varg.  Neither does empyrean magic.  Nice idea, but I don't think it's worth losing capstone.
  
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Re: 18Lock/1FVS/1Sorc
Reply #3 - Jun 22nd, 2015 at 1:26pm
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btw, if you go 18 warlock/1 wiz/1 FvS, you can have a full shiradi spell rotation with MM SLA, MM and 2x eldritch bursts (sort of like a PBAoE nuker).  Half the time, MM seemed to proc 5 missiles, even with only 1 wizard level.  If the next update goes through with epic levels counting for caster levels, it could be a decent build.
  
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Re: 18Lock/1FVS/1Sorc
Reply #4 - Jun 23rd, 2015 at 7:08am
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AtomicMew wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 1:26pm:
btw, if you go 18 warlock/1 wiz/1 FvS, you can have a full shiradi spell rotation with MM SLA, MM and 2x eldritch bursts (sort of like a PBAoE nuker).  Half the time, MM seemed to proc 5 missiles, even with only 1 wizard level.  If the next update goes through with epic levels counting for caster levels, it could be a decent build. 


Ha! Nice.  I had considered 1Wiz with spell augmentation items for boosting # of MM.

Having a *ahem* blast playing a pure evoc focused drow warlock level 9 (completionist w/o the feat atm)   Really loved seeing maximised 1200 point colours  proc at level 7 on a snitch end boss whatshisface.

Was using SE Consume/Stricken but once I got a few more AP I swapped to ES for the AoE Burst with the majority in TS.

Really fun and effective.  GOO with some mind fog scrolls... not needed for Heroic but huge debuff potential for epics.
  
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Re: 18Lock/1FVS/1Sorc
Reply #5 - Jun 23rd, 2015 at 12:14pm
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I apsolutely love sticken and consume.
Stricken now that metas were added to it actually can do quite nice damage.
But the wonderful part is how fast you stack vulnerability with it.
Warlocks are must splash on shiradi for that ability alone imo

Only issue i have is what is better when blasting.
To do force blasts or swap to aligment.
Since we have sun elf plifes, aligment seems like the better choice /evil
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Re: 18Lock/1FVS/1Sorc
Reply #6 - Jun 23rd, 2015 at 1:46pm
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Yeah that vulnerability, consume/stricken seems it would be pretty sweet especially for single target.  For mid-level heroic elites Focused Blast w/ PL Meta'd MM seems more than enough.

I'm not really sure where I'm headed but T5 and capstone in TS and T4s in ES/SE is in my sights.

So far at level 9 with GOO, EvoF, GEvoF, PL-Wiz, Max.

12 Insightful, 15 Emp, 18 Quicken, 21 EEB is aboot as far as I've planned and Shiradi for the Primal PLs.

Twists are Evocation Augmentation, Evocation Specialist(?)+3 to DCs, and Cocoon maybe.

I may change twists once I see what's needed for workable Evocation DC on EB and dial back.  Maybe to Sense Weakness, Cocoon, Uncanny Reflexes and work on that last twist slot.
  
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Re: 18Lock/1FVS/1Sorc
Reply #7 - Jun 23rd, 2015 at 2:16pm
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Lelouch wrote on Jun 23rd, 2015 at 12:14pm:
I apsolutely love sticken and consume.
Stricken now that metas were added to it actually can do quite nice damage.
But the wonderful part is how fast you stack vulnerability with it.
Warlocks are must splash on shiradi for that ability alone imo

Only issue i have is what is better when blasting.
To do force blasts or swap to aligment.
Since we have sun elf plifes, aligment seems like the better choice /evil

Nice that stricken/consume are worth casting now.  Are you mixing EB with spells?  Is there still a huge delay for EB after casting something?
  
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Re: 18Lock/1FVS/1Sorc
Reply #8 - Jun 23rd, 2015 at 3:03pm
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There is a noticeable delay.   Consume/Stricken are nice opening combo before EB salvo but there is a delay with EB to reapply them and if you are focused more on EB damage then it is cumbersome.   The delay is about the same as it takes to drink a potion (w/o jump drinking). Delay to stop EB and cast Consume/Stricken. Then another delay to restart EB. 

Consume/Stricken seem better served cast with ES Aura up and Eldritch Burst or w/e else you want to cast.  EB to mop up/debuff or w/e.
  
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Re: 18Lock/1FVS/1Sorc
Reply #9 - Jun 23rd, 2015 at 7:31pm
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sucks that they left in the extra delay.  It really broke immersion for me.  Sad
  
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Re: 18Lock/1FVS/1Sorc
Reply #10 - Jun 24th, 2015 at 9:56am
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To be honest the amount of delay is about the same as you'd find in a lot of character actions in game.  I would not say it's over the top.  It does take some getting used too though and over a long enough time line you figure out what's important enough to interrupt EB to cast.

For heroics you can get by with the delay while trying out different powers and combos.  I am sure ED, Epic Feat abilities will change the rotation up but I'm not there yet.

I'm also liking how Feigned Health triggers off scrolls, clickies and wands.
  
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Re: 18Lock/1FVS/1Sorc
Reply #11 - Jun 24th, 2015 at 11:26am
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Heh, can't see that lasting.
  
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Re: 18Lock/1FVS/1Sorc
Reply #12 - Jul 10th, 2015 at 2:51pm
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How do you get past the self healing issues with this build?

I presume fvs is there for it, however I am not familiar with using that class and Im just to level 9 now with my pure lock - having to chug pots and jump/wand like crazy to stay alive.
  
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Re: 18Lock/1FVS/1Sorc
Reply #13 - Jul 13th, 2015 at 12:58pm
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This was just an idea I was tossing around...

Honestly healing EEs with drow pure 20 warlock/8 epic couldn't have been easier.

Started epics in Shiradi with Energy Burst Acid, Uncanny Reflexes, Cocoon with T5s and Capstone in TS with heavy dips into ES and SE. 

Around level 24ish I swapped to EA (MCMW max/empowered/quickend) with Consecrate, Sacred Ground and Cocoon twisted.
5th core in ES and T5s (Shining Through, Spirit Blast etc etc)
the rest in TS for Capstone, Chain, Utter, Enervating 10% Confusion Proc.

This works effing awesome.  Hundreds of Temp HP from Shining Through, Feigned Health, Brilliance plus almost non-stop healing from Sacred Ground, MCMW, Cocoon and a bump when needed from Stanch not to mention no fail Heal Scrolls from an amazing UMD. 

You could totally, easily stay healed with cautious, tactical play using Cocoon, Heal scrolls and Temp HP management.
  
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Re: 18Lock/1FVS/1Sorc
Reply #14 - Jul 14th, 2015 at 12:35am
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Mokune wrote on Jul 13th, 2015 at 12:58pm:
This was just an idea I was tossing around...

Honestly healing EEs with drow pure 20 warlock/8 epic couldn't have been easier.

Started epics in Shiradi with Energy Burst Acid, Uncanny Reflexes, Cocoon with T5s and Capstone in TS with heavy dips into ES and SE. 

Around level 24ish I swapped to EA (MCMW max/empowered/quickend) with Consecrate, Sacred Ground and Cocoon twisted.
5th core in ES and T5s (Shining Through, Spirit Blast etc etc)
the rest in TS for Capstone, Chain, Utter, Enervating 10% Confusion Proc.

This works effing awesome.  Hundreds of Temp HP from Shining Through, Feigned Health, Brilliance plus almost non-stop healing from Sacred Ground, MCMW, Cocoon and a bump when needed from Stanch not to mention no fail Heal Scrolls from an amazing UMD. 

You could totally, easily stay healed with cautious, tactical play using Cocoon, Heal scrolls and Temp HP management.



interesting.  PDK should work too yeah?  If LR out of fighter and go pure?
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Revaulting wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 8:16pm:
Have you tried a lower difficulty, such as the official forums?
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Re: 18Lock/1FVS/1Sorc
Reply #15 - Jul 14th, 2015 at 7:36am
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Tested on lama, scourge isn't charged by the blast (fiend pact).
Guess it's same for conflagration, but was too lazy to test it too.

AtomicMew wrote on Jun 22nd, 2015 at 1:26pm:
btw, if you go 18 warlock/1 wiz/1 FvS, you can have a full shiradi spell rotation with MM SLA, MM and 2x eldritch bursts (sort of like a PBAoE nuker).  Half the time, MM seemed to proc 5 missiles, even with only 1 wizard level.  If the next update goes through with epic levels counting for caster levels, it could be a decent build. 



tried MM with 1 wiz with and without arcane augmentation, the number of missiles was exactly the one  which I would expect normally (2 and 1 respectively) (shiradi), so not sure how to reproduce those results
  
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Re: 18Lock/1FVS/1Sorc
Reply #16 - Jul 14th, 2015 at 9:23am
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Yobai wrote on Jul 14th, 2015 at 12:35am:
interesting.  PDK should work too yeah?  If LR out of fighter and go pure?


Oh I'm sure it would. It also has nice melee synergy considering Cha tohit/damage and ES Capstone.
  
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Re: 18Lock/1FVS/1Sorc
Reply #17 - Sep 30th, 2015 at 6:49pm
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i tested now scourge and conflagration. aura proc them, only on dmg tho
  
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Re: 18Lock/1FVS/1Sorc
Reply #18 - Sep 30th, 2015 at 9:51pm
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Limpgimp wrote on Jul 14th, 2015 at 7:36am:
Tested on lama, scourge isn't charged by the blast (fiend pact).
Guess it's same for conflagration, but was too lazy to test it too.



tried MM with 1 wiz with and without arcane augmentation, the number of missiles was exactly the one  which I would expect normally (2 and 1 respectively) (shiradi), so not sure how to reproduce those results

I dont know what it was, and I definitely wouldn't make a build around it.  But you could do 18 warlock/2 sorc or wiz with clvl 7 magic missile (3 pc abishai + new raid gloves).  I thought about it, but personally I'm waiting for the caster pass before trying anything.
  
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