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Reply #75 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:35am
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It doesn`t matter where you started from.

Its like these guys Graduating from Uni thinking they can immediately go fix a robot or make a Donut/Boobies powered car.

Steelstar started his career from QA,people saw potential in him and after 8 months he got promoted to Dev status and he gave us some the best mechanisms in the game and Enlightened Spirit.

PlumeDeSoleil FOTS etc while he went apeshit brought us  Divine Crusader and some other nice things.

Varg gave us Colors/Colours of the Queen and Tainted Scholar

It seems there are issues among the oldest Devs blocking Varg atm

Tolero,Jerry and KK are opposed while WB guys are browsing both forums and with the feedback we give they think Varg is the best choice but some Turdbine family drama would prolly cause an Infinite Crisis among them that might lead to more Feather of Sun moments.

So much drama...
  

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Reply #76 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:45am
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Coasterhops wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 11:56pm:
Instead of firing them you could just chuck a vending machine in a pit with a 9 foot ladder, they climb down, they pay you for food, they get stuck at bottom of hole due to ladder bug.

Having the hole at 9 foot deep ensures future hilarity at watching them try to jump and lift themselves out.

Please nobody insult my idea by suggesting that at only 9 foot they could utilise some team work to get out....


I think that is a great idea. Id throw in perhaps an option for a severance package in that they all have to dress up "in full" as their favorite DDO class and have Strak or Drop make them play actual D&D with either Strak or Drop as DM
  
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Reply #77 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:47am
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Hiding wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 11:57pm:
I'd probably just go hang out on a tropical island if I won the lottery, drink lots of rum, smoke a few cigars, pick up some girls.


Did that already as a teenager for 4 years on a sailboat. Got the t-shirt, moving onto more mundane yet malicious adventures
  
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Reply #78 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:51am
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Jeff_Stryker wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 7:01am:
Heh, fuck that.  I'd be on a beach in the Bahamas drinking
Margeritas out of Kate Upton's shoes...


Buy a game, make it right and I can still have time to do that with residuals coming in.
  
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Reply #79 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 11:31am
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Turd_Ferguson wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 1:05am:
Pardon my French


You're pardoned.

I do also suspect that most of Cordovan knee jerk reactions we see is because he has been handled a set of retarded rules to follow and been ordered to follow them to the letter and to not deviate from them. If he gets somebody that is more open and that review these rules to make them more open I'm almost convinced that he would adapt and become easier to deal with.

Bacardi wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:35am:
Tolero,Jerry and KK are opposed while WB guys are browsing both forums and with the feedback we give they think Varg is the best choice but some Turdbine family drama would prolly cause an Infinite Crisis among them that might lead to more Feather of Sun moments.


KK is too junior, and from QA... Just the fact it's QA makes him irrelevant as a potential producer...( from the point of view of those in power ).

Personally I'm still chocking over Varg Tough Choice, so my vote would go for Steel. ( well my vote would go for KK, but as I typed, the PHB probably dismiss him because of QA )
  

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Reply #80 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 11:41am
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KK got updated btw Wink
  

Epoch wrote on May 22nd, 2012 at 4:46am:
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Reply #81 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 12:51pm
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Bacardi wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:35am:
It doesn`t matter where you started from.

Its like these guys Graduating from Uni thinking they can immediately go fix a robot or make a Donut/Boobies powered car.

Steelstar started his career from QA,people saw potential in him and after 8 months he got promoted to Dev status and he gave us some the best mechanisms in the game and Enlightened Spirit.

PlumeDeSoleil FOTS etc while he went apeshit brought us  Divine Crusader and some other nice things.

Varg gave us Colors/Colours of the Queen and Tainted Scholar

It seems there are issues among the oldest Devs blocking Varg atm

Tolero,Jerry and KK are opposed while WB guys are browsing both forums and with the feedback we give they think Varg is the best choice but some Turdbine family drama would prolly cause an Infinite Crisis among them that might lead to more Feather of Sun moments.

So much drama...



you forgot Majmal!  he gave us the greatest contribution of all time!  under his leadership QA ushered in DUPEAPALOOZA!
  

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Reply #82 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 12:52pm
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Flav wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 11:31am:
KK is too junior, and from QA... Just the fact it's QA makes him irrelevant as a potential producer...( from the point of view of those in power ).



didn't stop them from promoting vajmal to producer for a hot second.
  

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Reply #83 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 2:22pm
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So...https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/462611-Rumor/page3

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I was in a different group around the same time and people were talking about how there was an effort to spread false information to rile people up. Someone in that group knew someone who works at Turbine, and they said this rumor is completely false.


That thing is cool, and lives around here.

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That is a awful lot of effort dancing around without just flat out saying "Severlin is not leaving" and putting a end to it.

Additionally there is a fair bit of butthurt tone in that damage control post, so can we call this a step towards confirming Sev_Pay is on his way out?  I'm certainly leaning that way.

Fucking Jerry, so in over his head.
  
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Reply #84 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 3:13pm
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gumba wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 1:47am:
All I would say is that a producer needs a certain level of people skills to be effective, even the producer of a MMORPG, surprising as that might be to some of us.



Not to be argumentative, but many successful producers and executives are able to achieve great success all while possessing stunted social skills, or EIQ.

By delegating those tasks to subordinates with greater social strengths a effective leader can simultaneously benefit from the social calm provided by a gifted assistant and the objective view mild disassociation can provide.

Of course for this to happen a leader needs to be self-aware enough to see those weakness and willing to make the needed moves to compensate. Additionally, the organization a leader is heading needs to have access to the resources needed to provide that support, including the skilled assistants and the budget to pay for them.   

After watching Severlin and his team for the past 7 months I tend to think that he didn't have the introspection or budget to correct his own shortcomings before they became a obstacle to carrying out his duties.

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Re: Sev getting moved off DDO
Reply #85 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 4:24pm
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Hag Master wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 2:22pm:
So...https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/462611-Rumor/page3

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That is a awful lot of effort dancing around without just flat out saying "Severlin is not leaving" and putting a end to it.

Additionally there is a fair bit of butthurt tone in that damage control post, so can we call this a step towards confirming Sev_Pay is on his way out?  I'm certainly leaning that way.

Fucking Jerry, so in over his head.


Meh.  I wouldn't expect him to comment on Sev's job one way or the other.  It's not a matter for discussion on the forums.  Not to mention, it would give some acknowledgement to the methodology of the OP.  I'm surprised he didn't just close the thread and be done with it.  But, I guess he wanted to throw in his 2 cents about how ridiculous the OP statement was from a credibility standpoint. 
  
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Reply #86 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 4:45pm
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yes this whole thread is complete bullshit.

If someone knows someone at turbine, find out something useful like what they're doing about a Ranged pass.
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Reply #87 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 5:42pm
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palmer01 wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 8:39pm:
I'd really like to win the powerball lotto, buy out the game; grab a bunch of you guys on contract, show up at turbine headquarters, introduce you guys to all the turbine turdburglers and advise them that they have to listen to you, work them like dogs, fire them all and reinvent ddo


At this point you'd be better off buying the IP and starting a new game from scratch.
  

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Reply #88 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 6:21pm
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Asheras wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 4:24pm:
But, I guess he wanted to throw in his 2 cents about how ridiculous the OP statement was from a credibility standpoint. 

I prefer to read it as Jerry needing to get his information about Turbine from some stranger who knows a guy who works at Turbine.
  

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Reply #89 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 7:18pm
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Revaulting wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 6:21pm:
I prefer to read it as Jerry needing to get his information about Turbine from some stranger who knows a guy who works at Turbine.

LOL, this exactly.

Imagine how he must feel when he has to shut down these rumor threads, and then learns a month or two later that they were true. It must feel like everybody but him knew, and nobody cared enough about him to give him a hint. He had to hear it 4th hand from people he hates.

I wouldn't be surprised if he left the thread up a bit to see if he could learn any more details  Grin
  

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Reply #90 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:16pm
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Jeff_Stryker wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 7:01am:
Heh, fuck that.  I'd be on a beach in the Bahamas drinking
Margeritas out of Kate Upton's shoes...


She's got tinea, go with the DD cups bro.
  
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Reply #91 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:41pm
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Bacardi wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:35am:
It doesn`t matter where you started from.

Its like these guys Graduating from Uni thinking they can immediately go fix a robot or make a Donut/Boobies powered car.

Steelstar started his career from QA,people saw potential in him and after 8 months he got promoted to Dev status and he gave us some the best mechanisms in the game and Enlightened Spirit.

PlumeDeSoleil FOTS etc while he went apeshit brought us  Divine Crusader and some other nice things.

Varg gave us Colors/Colours of the Queen and Tainted Scholar

It seems there are issues among the oldest Devs blocking Varg atm

Tolero,Jerry and KK are opposed while WB guys are browsing both forums and with the feedback we give they think Varg is the best choice but some Turdbine family drama would prolly cause an Infinite Crisis among them that might lead to more Feather of Sun moments.

So much drama...


This is the hardest part of trying to work this out from the outside.
Some of the team could be good.  As Meursalt said, under the right leadership and mentoring they could thrive if they're passionate.

We know the atmosphere at Turdbine is not great, and some of the leadership have been less than inspiring and you've F_ernando pissing in someone's ear - all that is hardly a recipe for success.

The DDO team needs a Producer who is not part of the team.  I would go so far as to say, someone who is not technically hands on.  Someone with some business/marketing cred supported by managing software projects.  If you've got a competent technical team, you can get your head out of the day-to-day and focus on the tactical and strategic issues.  That sort of Producer might start to see some of the train wrecks plaguing previous producers.

The orgn also needs a good flush, put in place a mgmt team with business experience, marketing experience and software development experience (non-Turdbine experience) and then resource the products appropriately and see what happens. None of this bottom of the cost curve BS - which works in manufacturing (for awhile at least, until you are technologically superseded) but not in software development if you plan to last more than a year or two.

However, I suspect a technical review of DDO might show it is going to be a problem to continue development.  Things are degenerating as they code on top of sloppy code.  Things are a real mess behind the scenes.

The unprofessional anecdotal comments being left by the devs in the DDO client code show that even the developers don't know what the hell things do and just avoid touching stuff.  That to me is pretty damning.

If they were to be pragmatic, a decision needs to be taken soon - either send DDO to maintenance mode or start developing DDO2 with the same starting functionality on a fresh code base.  But start to look at modern development tools to enable faster and more QC content development (look at customer made content too if that opens up any business opportunities).

DDO without most of the major bugs, backed by a refreshed look and a PLAN, could still be a money making venture.  Their is a lot of ground they can still cover between now and the likely lvl 30 end game.  But the negative attitude towards customers and customer service is like a virus in Turdbine, it needs to be found and removed too.  Otherwise, all those pissed off and disgruntled customers will not come back.
  
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Reply #92 - Jul 9th, 2015 at 2:09am
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Nicely put Drop, depressing as hell, but nicely put.
  
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Reply #93 - Jul 9th, 2015 at 6:25am
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DropBear wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:41pm:
The unprofessional anecdotal comments being left by the devs in the DDO client code show that even the developers don't know what the hell things do and just avoid touching stuff. 


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Hag Master wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 2:22pm:
So...https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/462611-Rumor/page3

That is a awful lot of effort dancing around without just flat out saying "Severlin is not leaving" and putting a end to it.

Additionally there is a fair bit of butthurt tone in that damage control post, so can we call this a step towards confirming Sev_Pay is on his way out?  I'm certainly leaning that way.

Fucking Jerry, so in over his head.

Actually I read it quite differently.  I read it more like this:

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Really dude, you "heard" it from someone in-game?  You didn't read it over at The Vault, from the blatant trolls over there? 

Funny, I was in a group too [read it over there too], with someone who knows someone who works for Turbine, that said it's bullshit.  Oh yeah, that person is me [Cordovan], because I'm the fucking Community Manager and would know this shit.


I see it as him being nothing more than very sarcastic over a rumor.  I don't see him dancing around anything, I see it as him simply playing along, while also responding to the rumor.

Whether he was being honest of not, now that's another story.
  
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Reply #95 - Jul 9th, 2015 at 1:35pm
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ThereIsNoSpoon wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 1:16pm:
Actually I read it quite differently.  I read it more like this:


I see it as him being nothing more than very sarcastic over a rumor.  I don't see him dancing around anything, I see it as him simply playing along, while also responding to the rumor.

Whether he was being honest of not, now that's another story. 


This is how I read it, as well. He came off like a dick in that post, in my opinion. Not that I'm surprised. My 6 year old nephew is capable of more professionalism than Jerry.
  

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Reply #96 - Jul 9th, 2015 at 2:00pm
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Yeah and it's not like there is a lot of trust of the Turbine employees going around. Even some of the other malcontents are starting to call into question the Dev team about other nonsense... Guess it's not just me that doesn't trust them anymore lol.
  
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DropBear wrote on Jul 8th, 2015 at 9:41pm:
The unprofessional anecdotal comments being left by the devs in the DDO client code show that even the developers don't know what the hell things do and just avoid touching stuff.  That to me is pretty damning.




what's this you say?  tell me more.
  

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Reply #99 - Jul 9th, 2015 at 5:48pm
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ThereIsNoSpoon wrote on Jul 9th, 2015 at 1:16pm:
I see it as him being nothing more than very sarcastic over a rumor.  I don't see him dancing around anything, I see it as him simply playing along, while also responding to the rumor.

Whether he was being honest of not, now that's another story. 



just adds more Jerrygrist for the Jerrymill when Sev does leave.

Jerry is an idiot.
  

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