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Full Retard Warlock for Dummies
Oct 11th, 2015 at 5:55am
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First I apologize for mocking others who have asked for warlock advice.

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Anyone see a way to squeeze more blasting DPS out of this?

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20 Warlock
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Stats:
14 Con
18 Int
18 Cha (+ levels)

Feats:
1 Maximize
1 Fey Pact
3 Empower
6 Completionist
9 Mental Toughness
12 Greater Mental Toughness
15 Evocation Focus
18 Greater Evocation Focus
21 Epic Eldritch Blast
24 Epic Mental Toughness
26 Epic Spell Power Light
27 Epic Evocation Focus
28 Epic Arcane Eldritch Blast


Enhancements:

41 in Tainted Scholar for capstone
23 in Enlightened Spirit for Spiritual Retribution
16 in Racial for Light of the Sun God


Destiny: Magister

Cha +1
Unearthly Reactions 2/3

Cha +1
Evocation Specialist 3/3

Cha+1
Evocation Augmentation 3/3

Cha +1
Evocation Familiarity 3/3
Nullmagic Guard 1/3
Sigil of Battering Spellcraft 3/3

Nullmagic Strike 1/3


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4 Blood and Radiance
3 Empyrean Magic
1 Interrogation
1 Radiant Power


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Flawless Blue Dragon Armor
Blue Dragon Helm(Insightful Int/Cha)
Resonation Necklace
Planar Focus of Erudition (Insightful Int/Cha)
Countenance Cloak
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Lantern Ring
Circle of Malevolence Ring
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Re: Full Retard Warlock for Dummies
Reply #1 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:00am
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how do u replace Completionist???
  
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Re: Full Retard Warlock for Dummies
Reply #2 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:34am
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Nicone wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:00am:
how do u replace Completionist???

I would substitute focus: Conjuration for Evard's
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Reply #3 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 4:31pm
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A lot of strange things in my opinion.  Magister is very strange.  As I said in another thread, evocation familiarity didn't do anything.  Or at least is so marginal, that it couldn't be detected after a full minute of blasting. 

EA or shiradi are much superior. 

Balizarde/libram is also a strange choice compared to TF/golden orb.  Also, that new robe has +10 insightful spellpower (it' a robe which sucks, but were talking about full retard here). 

You'd want 31 points in ES for the T5 core (+3d6).  But I soul eater is better for pure DPS, with the full vulnerability procs (+20% dmg).  The SLAs are pretty strong too. 

Also, some folks mentioned eldritch wave (T5 soul eater) got a undocumented buff to cast time.  T5 soul eater + TS capstone might come out to be the best DPS (haven't tested it though).
  
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Reply #4 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 9:16pm
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Nicone wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:00am:
how do u replace Completionist???


Probably Skill Focus: Spell Craft or Past Life Warlock.
  

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Re: Full Retard Warlock for Dummies
Reply #5 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 9:43pm
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AtomicMew wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 4:31pm:
A lot of strange things in my opinion.  Magister is very strange.  As I said in another thread, evocation familiarity didn't do anything.  Or at least is so marginal, that it couldn't be detected after a full minute of blasting. 


It worked and was noticeable when I tested it. That's all I can say for now until I TR.

AtomicMew wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 4:31pm:
EA or shiradi are much superior. 


I prefer EA for aura + SLA spamming. That will be a different build though.

AtomicMew wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 4:31pm:
Balizarde/libram is also a strange choice compared to TF/golden orb.  Also, that new robe has +10 insightful spellpower (it' a robe which sucks, but were talking about full retard here). 


Swapping in that robe means losing 15 from the dragon set. Libram has 10 insightful as well. Would be nice to have the better insightful crit off of the skull, but I was prioritizing maximum spell power before crits. It looks like I need to swap in TF anyway (or switch to GOO pact), because TF seems to be the only way to get good sonic lore. Balizarde is there for the Planar Conflux spellpower, which stacks with everything AFAIK (the defensive bonuses are also very nice).

AtomicMew wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 4:31pm:
You'd want 31 points in ES for the T5 core (+3d6).  But I soul eater is better for pure DPS, with the full vulnerability procs (+20% dmg).  The SLAs are pretty strong too.

Also, some folks mentioned eldritch wave (T5 soul eater) got a undocumented buff to cast time.  T5 soul eater + TS capstone might come out to be the best DPS (haven't tested it though). 


Definitely lots of testing to do.

Edited:
Yeah it looks like I can get more spellpower out of GOO even though I'd be dropping those set bonuses. Gonna write that up
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Re: Full Retard Warlock for Dummies
Reply #6 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 10:14pm
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Yeah, it's just the gear that's different. 8 more acid spellpower vs sonic, 7 less light, way better acid crits vs sonic, better DCs and defenses.

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20 Warlock
Neutral
Sun Elf

Stats:
14 Con
18 Int
18 Cha (+ levels)

Feats:
1 Maximize
1 GOO Pact
3 Empower
6 Completionist
9 Mental Toughness
12 Greater Mental Toughness
15 Evocation Focus
18 Greater Evocation Focus
21 Epic Eldritch Blast
24 Epic Mental Toughness
26 Epic Spell Power Light
27 Epic Evocation Focus
28 Epic Arcane Eldritch Blast


Enhancements:

41 in Tainted Scholar for capstone
23 in Enlightened Spirit for Spiritual Retribution
16 in Racial for Light of the Sun God


Destiny: Magister

Cha +1
Unearthly Reactions 2/3

Cha +1
Evocation Specialist 3/3

Cha+1
Evocation Augmentation 3/3

Cha +1
Evocation Familiarity 3/3
Nullmagic Guard 1/3
Sigil of Battering Spellcraft 3/3

Nullmagic Strike 1/3


Twists:
4 Blood and Radiance
3 Empyrean Magic
1 Interrogation
1 Radiant Power


Gear:
Upgraded ToEE Armor
Deific Diadem
Resonation Necklace
E Litany
Countenance Cloak
E Belt of Thoughtful Remembrance
Lantern Ring
Ring swap slot?
Gauntlets of Arcane Soldier
Greensteel int skill boots
Dumathoin's Bracers
E Mentau Goggles

ToEE acid caster weapon
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Reply #7 - Oct 12th, 2015 at 10:15am
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this might be a good warlock.
however, when talking about warlock FOR DUMMIES, I'd expect a con-based enlightened spirit in Unyielding Sentinel for more HP or Divine Crusader for more lag.
  
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Re: Full Retard Warlock for Dummies
Reply #8 - Oct 12th, 2015 at 10:38am
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crunch wrote on Oct 12th, 2015 at 10:15am:
this might be a good warlock.
however, when talking about warlock FOR DUMMIES, I'd expect a con-based enlightened spirit in Unyielding Sentinel for more HP or Divine Crusader for more lag.


Yeah.  "for dummies" build probably shouldn't include:

1) Completionist feat
2) 4 Twists of fate
3) A gear set that includes 3 DoJ items, 2 MoD items, 1 Deathwyrm item, 1 HH Item, ToEE Armor and weapon, both upgraded, 1 TF T3 weapon.   

That's a power gamer character with a lot of gear grind.
  
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Reply #9 - Oct 12th, 2015 at 11:06am
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Asheras wrote on Oct 12th, 2015 at 10:38am:
Yeah.  "for dummies" build probably shouldn't include:

1) Completionist feat
2) 4 Twists of fate
3) A gear set that includes 3 DoJ items, 2 MoD items, 1 Deathwyrm item, 1 HH Item, ToEE Armor and weapon, both upgraded, 1 TF T3 weapon.   

That's a power gamer character with a lot of gear grind that will be invalidated months, nay possibly even weeks before you achieve the whole gear set. 


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Reply #10 - Oct 12th, 2015 at 12:10pm
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Mokune wrote on Oct 12th, 2015 at 11:06am:
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You sound bitter and jaded.  Why don't you show us where the MMO hurt you on your inventory page?

Seriously, though, especially with regard to 1) that god awful MoD drop rate and 2) needing 30 phlogs to make one T3, a lot of people gave up on those raids. 

People seem more happy with the DoJ drop rate.  It seems more in line with past raids (not including CiTW, which was also a fucking nightmare, even with 6 chests).

On the phlog issue:  Did it not occur to Turbine to make the number of phlogs needed different for 2-handers vs. 1 handers?  A dual wielding character needs 60 phlogs, where as a great sword/great axe player needs 30.  IAnd the 2 handers have more power.  t should have been 20 phlogs for 1 handed weapons and 30 phlogs for 2 handers.
  
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Reply #11 - Oct 12th, 2015 at 2:38pm
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Asheras wrote on Oct 12th, 2015 at 12:10pm:
You sound bitter and jaded.  Why don't you show us where the MMO hurt you on your inventory page?

Seriously, though, especially with regard to 1) that god awful MoD drop rate and 2) needing 30 phlogs to make one T3, a lot of people gave up on those raids. 

People seem more happy with the DoJ drop rate.  It seems more in line with past raids (not including CiTW, which was also a fucking nightmare, even with 6 chests).

On the phlog issue:  Did it not occur to Turbine to make the number of phlogs needed different for 2-handers vs. 1 handers?  A dual wielding character needs 60 phlogs, where as a great sword/great axe player needs 30.  IAnd the 2 handers have more power.  t should have been 20 phlogs for 1 handed weapons and 30 phlogs for 2 handers.



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Reply #12 - Oct 12th, 2015 at 10:26pm
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DC casting is dead. It takes too long to get blue dragon -5 reflex/advanced evo focus -10 reflex to stack, or whatever for whatever pact you pick. Even if you did min-max and take everything you aren't going to hit EE saves anyways.

Just max the no-save dps and stack con, PRR, and MRR, and go ES. This lets you pull 2x as many mobs at once, which doubles your dps and ends up higher dps than any attempt at any other tree or DC build.
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Reply #14 - Oct 13th, 2015 at 4:21pm
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Slarden suggested CHA based for evard's (among other reasons).  It seemed to work out pretty well with no investment in EE GH.  I'm curious how inflated stats and saves are at current end game, which I haven't gotten to yet.
  
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AtomicMew wrote on Oct 13th, 2015 at 4:21pm:
Slarden suggested CHA based for evard's (among other reasons).  It seemed to work out pretty well with no investment in EE GH.  I'm curious how inflated stats and saves are at current end game, which I haven't gotten to yet. 

Warlocks in end game content will only be able to land spells on one type of save per mob.  Choose your pact and spells correctly and you can have some success against specific mobs.
  
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Reply #16 - Oct 14th, 2015 at 10:00pm
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DC casting is dead. It takes too long to get blue dragon -5 reflex/advanced evo focus -10 reflex to stack, or whatever for whatever pact you pick. Even if you did min-max and take everything you aren't going to hit EE saves anyways.

Just max the no-save dps and stack con, PRR, and MRR, and go ES. This lets you pull 2x as many mobs at once, which doubles your dps and ends up higher dps than any attempt at any other tree or DC build.


Will save target numbers are significantly easier to hit than the others.

Also, gimping DCs for the sake of what? 5 spellpower? That makes no sense.
  

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Reply #17 - Oct 15th, 2015 at 4:52am
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fuck worthless sun-elf, not worth the +1 heart to drop cleric for +3 spellpower.

the same AP can be put into Soul Eater to get: Inhuman Understanding (1ap), Consume(3ap), Hunger tier1(6ap), Stricken(9ap), Inhuman Nature 1(10ap), No Worse Fate(11ap), Hunger tier2(14ap), Shape Cone(16ap - top dmg stance after the change)

Which nets you: +15 SP from cores, +12 SP from Hungers. You lose a whole 3 Spellpower, and gain a 2 Sla combo that does some heavy dmg against bosses.

Along with 25 Fort, not all that big but every bit helps vs champs i hear.


TS is nice and all, but less DPS than ES, if im not mistaken that is.
  
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Vendui wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 4:52am:
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Pretty sure the buff is "Ignore fortification".
  
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WeHaveLived wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 6:24am:
Pretty sure the buff is "Ignore fortification".

Wouldnt know, hvnt really played much against them (read as at all) I just know 27 USP is better than 30 Light SP when warlock is involved as it adds +27 power to pact element, as well as the light/evil dmgs rather than just 30 to light/evil.
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Reply #20 - Oct 15th, 2015 at 12:50pm
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The buff is " fuck you if you have fortification"
  

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ILoveExploits wrote on Oct 15th, 2015 at 12:50pm:
The buff is " fuck you if you have fortification"


And concealment, invis, elemental damage, etc, yep.
  
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