There's a 2 paladin/18 sorcerer build that looks like a fantastic amount of fun. You go Warforged for self-healing(bladeforged = even better) and use great axes. Its mostly a melee build with a lot of charisma, and you use a lot of SLAs for cheaper spellcasting.

Only real item you need to get started is a greensteel conc/MP item.

I feel your struggle, I've had not the greatest of luck on my first caster life owing mostly to not even KNOWING what gear I am supposed to have Back to melees for mes!!

What does the Shiradi Easy Button usually do, combat wise? Is it just cast spells or are you a melee spellcaster? What spells are preferable?

noamineo wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 4:41pm:


Spells only.  Typically a rotation of Missle SLAs an non-meta Missle spells with a few other spells thrown in.

The secret is to use shiradi and spam the shit out of spells.  Shiradi has extremely high variability, but on average, magic missile in shiradi is equivalent to polar ray in damage.  You will frequently get almost no damage for a few casts, and then get a spike for 5000+ damage all of a sudden.

noamineo wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 5:12pm:



Force sp and crit chance. Splash 2fvs for mana battery extra crits.  Only prob is more max shiradi need fire spec, but a lot of stuff immune to fire.

Go spellsinger bard evoker (human/drow or flavor race). With a touch of warchanter for medium armor and buffing minions.

Max, Emp, Quicken, Heighten, SF:Evo, GSF:Evo, possibly extend if you're lazy and need 4 minute displace instead of 2 min. and minions like extended haste.
Hotbar Sonic Blast SLA, Sonic Blast spell, Shout SLA; at level 12 add Horn of Thunder, sing Sustaining Song for heals.

One/two shot elite rooms full of mobs like a warlock, while being a lowly bard; healing/buffing everyone around.

And if you don't like it, you can fall back to swashbuckler or a freezer bard.

crunch wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 2:43am:


Bard SS sucks ass through a straw in Epics and is meh'ish in Heroics,

you can't compare them to Warlocks, there is no competition.


crunch wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 2:43am:


That's more like it, no longer a caster though.

5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 4:40am:


Does this mean no more nerfs?

Alex DeLarge wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 4:19am:

Evoking spellsingers are obscenely strong in heroic and they bring significant utility to a group. Arguably, they do require ED abilities to contribute in epics.

I can compare them to warlocks. They have higher DCs, less DPS, and they are more fun. Also, OP expressed interest in bard and no interest in warlock.

I hope the new feats will help them contribute more in epics.

AtomicMew wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 7:04pm:


This.  Make sure you have double rainbow set up and on for Shiradi.  Maxing up your sonic spell power in addition to force helps a lot as well.