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Best Weapon Choice for Melee
Dec 22nd, 2015 at 1:28am
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Just wondering with the awesome updates from Turrdbine now, what is the best weapon to make, LGS looks pretty average. TF still looks a lot better to me, even though MF has be restructured to suit game play and balance throughout the community (Fukin Nerfed!!!!)

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Re: Best Weapon Choice for Melee
Reply #1 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 2:43am
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Reply #2 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 3:10am
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3 months ago mortal fear was a shoe-in....now I'm less sure of what is "best" 
Current life I am dual wielding khopesh/ scimitars and have been starting to go back to a bit of a golf bag of combos. Tier 3 TF + bleeding edge sometimes leopards chill. Have yet to try out a tiered up TOEE weapon in the mix... I suspect that eventually LGS will be needed to break abishai Dr... Got a pair of crafed ooze beaters for that irritating as fuck New quest, but they are a bit rubbish.
  

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Reply #3 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 3:22am
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merciless wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 3:10am:
3 months ago mortal fear was a shoe-in....now I'm less sure of what is "best" 
Current life I am dual wielding khopesh/ scimitars and have been starting to go back to a bit of a golf bag of combos. Tier 3 TF + bleeding edge sometimes leopards chill. Have yet to try out a tiered up TOEE weapon in the mix... I suspect that eventually LGS will be needed to break abishai Dr... Got a pair of crafed ooze beaters for that irritating as fuck New quest, but they are a bit rubbish.


wouldn't Dreampiercer (for thf) and axe of adaxus (as onehander) be better for ooze beating than any crafted weapon?
  
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Reply #4 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 3:57am
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I'm kind of curious about this as well. I know that Khopeshes were considered the best for awhile, though I have no idea what the case is now. Given the power of swashbuckler/vanguard SWF or Sword/Shield builds, I would think that Bastard Swords and Dwarven Axes would be quite good right now because of glancing blows.
  
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Gringo wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 3:22am:
wouldn't Dreampiercer (for thf) and axe of adaxus (as onehander) be better for ooze beating than any crafted weapon?

Top tip, hadnt thought of the axes...... will try it out. Ta
  

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Reply #9 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 11:12am
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wogoflove wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 1:28am:
Just wondering with the awesome updates from Turrdbine now, what is the best weapon to make, LGS looks pretty average. TF still looks a lot better to me, even though MF has be restructured to suit game play and balance throughout the community (Fukin Nerfed!!!!)

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Reply #10 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 11:13am
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obviously what weapon you choose is dependent on build, but khopeshes are still just as strong as they were before u29 and for the same reasons. in fact for twf barbs, khopeshes are now better than warhammers.

so far the lgs weapon effects are extremely lack luster. the t3 hidden effects will have to be truly amazing for lgs to ever be better than tf.

mortal fear may not proc in legendary, but crippling flames and burning emptiness still both do and are very strong effects.

on my thf barb i have been using esos again for no fort no dr legendary enemies. not sure if its mathematically better than an on crit falc, but the bigger crits are fun.



also, melee is more than doable in le, but it is not for casuals.
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Reply #11 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 11:20am
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A gun, to kill yourself with, faggot; you shouldn't be playing melees.
  
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Reply #12 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 11:45am
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I think the OP is talking about what kind of crafting system and what craft on it instead of item type, otherwise he wouldn't mention mortal fear and it's changes. So, answering that, I belive LGS is the best for all mlee and those who can have an offhand should use LGS + ToEE set. I'm just not sure what are the best upgrades for the LGS.
  
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Reply #14 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 5:18pm
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Thanks Vault, yeah I am using a scimmy on my pally, but like you said its more the effects. I have looked at the LGS but I still thing the thunderforge effects look a lot better, haven't made a LGS weapon yet, but wanted to get some info before I wasted mats....

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Reply #18 - Dec 23rd, 2015 at 10:03am
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as a TWF melee the most ideal setup would be LGS + TOEE
  
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Reply #19 - Dec 23rd, 2015 at 10:44am
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Intervention wrote on Dec 23rd, 2015 at 10:03am:
as a TWF melee the most ideal setup would be LGS + TOEE


That depends on the build and the LGS bonus effects.  I'd rather wait to see the whole picture before deciding that an LGS in the off hand isn't a better choice. 

Assuming you can easily slot a +14 elsewhere, would an offhand that does 10d6 good (or elemental damage) per hit plus an additional +9 to core stat (a +4 or +5 damage boost) be better than +20 MP and and some On Crit effects for around 20-120 damage (On a x3 multiplier weapon)?  And that's assuming no bonus effect on the GS.   What about in comparison to a TF weapon?  Doing 8-64 force damage per hit and 35% armor piercing and 33-105 bleed damage plust some fire damage or negative damage or vulnerable?  (And that doesn't count mortal fear proccing in non legendary content).

The ToEE blade, the TF Mortal Fear blade, and a GS blade with stats in tier 2 and 3 all make an interesting case for the off hand in TWF builds.  Especially on Tempest builds where you have 100% off hand attacks, 25% more offhand doublestrike, and full damage on the off-hand vs. half damage.  On that build, an off hand that is primarily there to boost the main hand damage is less valuable.
  
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Reply #20 - Dec 23rd, 2015 at 1:30pm
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Also been playing around with the bleeding edgs khopesh- the vampirism is nice and it has two slots, so I can bung devotion in there...another try-out offhander against various devils is the chill scimitar, the freeze procs like a mo-fo
  

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Reply #21 - Dec 26th, 2015 at 10:38am
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I can't say if they are the best weapons overall but Bleeding Edges and Riftmaker are best in terms of the DPS/Grind ratio. You just need couple of buddies for easy EE runs and you don't even need a whole evenig to get them.
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Reply #22 - Dec 28th, 2015 at 1:35pm
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And the EE are just getting easier as the mean-level of players goes up.
  
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