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DnD Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 155 Joined: Dec 3^rd, 2014	Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:48pm	Print Post
	Currently have a full BF pally. Curious to know which build could make a better use of it. Pure barbarian?
	« Last Edit: Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:48pm by DnD »

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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1207 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #1 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 9:10pm	Print Post
	Last I checked BF can't be Barbarians?


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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #2 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 9:27pm	Print Post
	There are so many ways in which you need to pull your head out of your ass, I just don't know where to begin.


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #3 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 10:34pm	Print Post
	ZooperDooper wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 9:10pm: Last I checked BF can't be Barbarians? It takes atleast 2 LR's + an alignment change. Pally level at one, 14 levels of a neutral class. lr+1 to remove paladin level, you now have 15 levels of neutral class (eg fighter or rogue). use alignment change token. use as many hearts as necessary to change your alignment neutral class to barbarian. Remember you can no longer use an alignment change on the LR ship.

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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #4 - Jan 7^th, 2016 at 10:40pm	Print Post
	Really crushes everyones dream of barbarian monks. Rather rude of the developers I say.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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RemRemi Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #5 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 12:59am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 10:40pm: Really crushes everyones dream of barbarian monks. Rather rude of the developers I say. But you could still have a 'Barbaric monk" right?


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Galadriel DQ Assaulter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 419 Location: Middle Earth Joined: May 20^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #6 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 2:00am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 10:40pm: Really crushes everyones dream of barbarian monks. Rather rude of the developers I say. 20 Barb in GMoF not Barbarian Monk enough for you?


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string table error, tableDID Stormreaver Piker Offline ah......fresh meat Posts: 743 Location: Boredville Joined: Dec 9^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #7 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 3:29am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 10:40pm: Really crushes everyones dream of barbarian monks. Rather rude of the developers I say. Just equip a pure bararian with handwarps, may even do more damage than a monk

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DnD Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 155 Joined: Dec 3^rd, 2014	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #8 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 6:55am	Print Post
	ZooperDooper wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 9:10pm: Last I checked BF can't be Barbarians? I didnt say I want to be a BF barbarian I asked if a barbarian would make a better use of ESOS, like a human barbarian.


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ILoveExploits Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Exploits! Posts: 2157 Location: piking @ work Joined: Oct 31^st, 2013 Gender:	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #9 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 9:48am	Print Post
	What?

	Dear players, The D&D rules you were familiar with were too simple to understand, so we're continuing our move away from them to needlessly confusing subsystems that will make your play experience less fun and invalidate old builds and loot. We hope you have fun working out what the fuck MRR, PRR, MP, SP, RP, CL, MCL and all the other bullshit we made up whilst drunk means. Love, People who don't know how to fix their own mistakes cleanly
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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #10 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 10:18am	Print Post
	This thread is emblemeatic of this forum.


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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #11 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 7:29pm	Print Post
	Galadriel wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 2:00am: 20 Barb in GMoF not Barbarian Monk enough for you? No.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #12 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 7:30pm	Print Post
	RemRemi wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 12:59am: But you could still have a 'Barbaric monk" right?� Hehehe

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #13 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 7:31pm	Print Post
	string table error, tableDID wrote on Jan 8^th, 2016 at 3:29am: Just equip a pure bararian with handwarps, may even do more damage than a monk Sadly, it would most likely be a far more effective monk that way...

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #14 - Jan 9^th, 2016 at 1:30am	Print Post
	Barb and Pally. Gratz on Shadow. To me it is one of the most iconic items in all of the game. That and Torc. Some of the old items make me nostalgic. I never got chance to play when cap was 20, but I would love to. Prefer that over epic we have now. 20 cap is still deeper than current end game. And all the new quests on heroic levels only deepens that depth. The new quests would have loot that is way over the curve except for some items that are really unique. But the invalidation that takes place today wouldn't have as strong as an effect now, that it has on the old update loot. A player server where cap is 20, no destinies, no epic past lives, all the current races, classes, enhancements, feats, spells. = the dream

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Sergod Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1110 Location: Richmond, VA Joined: Aug 18^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #15 - Jan 9^th, 2016 at 2:39am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 1:30am: Barb and Pally. Gratz on Shadow. To me it is one of the most iconic items in all of the game. That and Torc. Some of the old items make me nostalgic. I never got chance to play when cap was 20, but I would love to. Prefer that over epic we have now. 20 cap is still deeper than current end game. And all the new quests on heroic levels only deepens that depth. The new quests would have loot that is way over the curve except for some items that are really unique. But the invalidation that takes place today wouldn't have as strong as an effect now, that it has on the old update loot. A player server where cap is 20, no destinies, no epic past lives, all the current races, classes, enhancements, feats, spells. = the dream That would be a fun server. I'd probably make a character there. Give me cap 16 and I'm there tho. Golden days


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #16 - Jan 9^th, 2016 at 11:06am	Print Post
	DnD wrote on Jan 7^th, 2016 at 4:48pm: Currently have a full BF pally. Curious to know which build could make a better use of it. Pure barbarian? Stick with pally.

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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #17 - Jan 9^th, 2016 at 11:20am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 1:30am: Barb and Pally. Gratz on Shadow. To me it is one of the most iconic items in all of the game. That and Torc. Some of the old items make me nostalgic. I never got chance to play when cap was 20, but I would love to. Prefer that over epic we have now. 20 cap is still deeper than current end game. And all the new quests on heroic levels only deepens that depth. The new quests would have loot that is way over the curve except for some items that are really unique. But the invalidation that takes place today wouldn't have as strong as an effect now, that it has on the old update loot. A player server where cap is 20, no destinies, no epic past lives, all the current races, classes, enhancements, feats, spells. = the dream Do you even Epic Pouch of Jerky, faggot?


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #18 - Jan 9^th, 2016 at 11:52am	Print Post
	[] wrote on Jan 9^th, 2016 at 11:20am: Do you even Epic Pouch of Jerky, faggot? amazed that you could say epic pouch of jerky and then still call someone a faggot after.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #19 - Jan 9^th, 2016 at 11:57am	Print Post
	It's my thing; it's what I do.


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Toke Stormreaver Piker Offline ... or maybe I was just smoking something. Posts: 744 Joined: Jan 7^th, 2014	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #20 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 9:52am	Print Post
	So, you want a build to show off that you had good luck in getting pieces to make an ESOS?

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DnD Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 155 Joined: Dec 3^rd, 2014	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #21 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 10:25am	Print Post
	Toke wrote on Jan 10^th, 2016 at 9:52am: So, you want a build to show off that you had good luck in getting pieces to make an ESOS? No, I have ESOS for 3 or 4 years already, but end game is different from the last time I was playing that char. The char that has it was parked, then I tr'ed into BF pally, it is very nice I but want to know from math crunchers if an old weapon like this could be optimized even more. So far pally looks like the best choice. I have seen big numbers on crits.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #22 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 12:16pm	Print Post
	It's not optimal, but pally makes the best use of it. http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1440561085/18#18 On eSoS you need ~150 crittable base damage before melee power to pull ahead of TF vs red/purple names. I'm not sure what the new maximums for str, deadly, seeker, etc are since the update, but I'm assuming that it's still not doable right now.

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TWDiggs Mr. Infraction Offline Posts: 1841 Joined: Jul 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #23 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 3:22pm	Print Post
	I remember pulling my first SoS. I pissed so many people off in that raid looting it on my cleric.

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ILoveExploits Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Exploits! Posts: 2157 Location: piking @ work Joined: Oct 31^st, 2013 Gender:	Re: Best build to use ESOS on lvl 30? Reply #24 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 6:40pm	Print Post
	I pulled my shard before the item.

	Dear players, The D&D rules you were familiar with were too simple to understand, so we're continuing our move away from them to needlessly confusing subsystems that will make your play experience less fun and invalidate old builds and loot. We hope you have fun working out what the fuck MRR, PRR, MP, SP, RP, CL, MCL and all the other bullshit we made up whilst drunk means. Love, People who don't know how to fix their own mistakes cleanly
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