I was pretty jazzed about this 5 piece set's possibilities and even posted how great it was in a couple threads.

But after playing it on lamma on weekend I have have a change of heart. Sure in the wilderness or easy to test areas is pretty cool to see the finger killing shit left and right. But the moment you get into any at level quest it's useless.

When playing anything at end game The ceiling of 5k hit points for insta kills means it doesn't kill anything and just throws up vulnerable stacks which you can get any number of other ways with much less grind, and no random proc waiting. 

Sure don't get me wrong, lev 26 -28 you will be doing a ton of kills in those normal epic ETR cycles but at end game it's a non-event. The 42% extra hit points (oppo 2set) and the +27 crits (Mat 4set) you can get with a full set of Material Opposition are the only reason to ever go full 5 or 6 piece and even that is debatable considering how many slots you are giving up. Either way the 'Ender' doesn't.

the best was when i was on my soul eater warlock spamming double finger and the party thought it was ender....they probably really want ender now LOL

Asheras wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 5:18pm:


Go 6! get that +42% HP, so that you can still die in two shots and have only 2 slots left over....

Personally even this many years later I am still really surprised at just how far off from the real numbers and stats mobo morons and wiki are.

Grand wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 5:27pm:

never be surprised at how stupid people are. never.

Sergod wrote on Feb 15^th, 2016 at 5:28pm:


3 stacking resists is garbage.  I agree a non-dc warlock doesn't need much but still, ugh.  And that might be one of the only builds that can give up the slots for so much nothing.

Sergod wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 1:26am:


If resist happened after MRR, then that would be great.  Since it is before, though, it makes it more meh.

Take a 1000 HP fireball from a red abashai in LE Curse the Sky.

MRR of 130 (56% reduction).  120 Fire Resist.

1000 - 120 = 880.  880 * .44 = 387 damage.  Not immune.

Compare to no resist item (Besides Draconic augment)

1000 - 35 = 965.  965 * .44 = 424  damage.  Saved 37 damage with that tier 3 shroud item using a slot.  Tell me what slot and what build and I guarantee you I can find a named loot item or a loot gen item that makes your build waaaaaaay better than 37 damage saved on 1000 points of damage.  The value is even less on lower damage amounts.

Sergod wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 11:44am:


It's not fair to use fire shield in an example where you are talking about immunity to all elements.

1000/2=500.  500-120=380. 380*.44=167.2,

If they had only put the stats on accesories instead of weapons. =(

Asheras wrote on Feb 16^th, 2016 at 2:32pm:


This is how I feel also. I am just playing devils advocate.

To get the proper bonuses they all need to be Mat/opp. 

Fun fact if you have 4 Mat/Opp LGS items equipped and you equip a empty LGS item? bingo you still get the 5 piece ender set bonus. Now while that doesn't help us, I mean a empty piece is a waste it does indicate how poorly designed the sets were.

PersonaNonGrata wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 1:51am:



Very true, very true. For instance I heard that Fatty mentioned on Twitch today that U30 is Friday because they can fix any 'build' problems between Tuesday and Friday.

I haven't had the time (or stomach) to watch it myself yet but I will tonight.

Has anyone else noticed that the only place you can really get Dev info these days is the brief unguarded moments on Twitch or the DDOcast? They are so surround by Fanbois they let there mouths runs. How fucked up is that?

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Feb 17^th, 2016 at 8:43pm:


I'd settle for the devs just having to play the crap they're publishing.