With the new legendary raids i was thinking if there might be any viable tank builds out there, if not i put one together myself really quick, any opinions?
Note its a bit overboard with the cost (+1 lesser heart and a few +5 tomes but i have all of these atm)
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Level 30 Lawful Good Purple Dragon Knight Male
(20 Paladin \ 10 Epic)
Hit Points: 632
Spell Points: 234
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 33
Reflex: 27
Will: 31

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 30)
Strength              8                    15
Dexterity            12                    19
Constitution         18                    26
Intelligence          8                    15
Wisdom                8                    15
Charisma             18                    35

Tomes Used
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                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 30)
Balance               0                    14
Bluff                 0                    22
Concentration         4                    41
Diplomacy             0                    22
Disable Device        n/a                  n/a
Haggle                0                    22
Heal                  0                    31
Hide                  0                    14
Intimidate            4                    45
Jump                  0                    12
Listen                0                    12
Move Silently         0                    14
Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
Perform               n/a                  n/a
Repair                0                    12
Search                0                    12
Spellcraft            0                    12
Spot                  0                    12
Swim                  0                    12
Tumble                n/a                  n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                  n/a

Level 1 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Intimidate (+4)
Feat: (Deity) Favored by Amaunator
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Druid
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery
Feat: (Human Bonus) Tower Shield Proficiency


Level 2 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 3 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Bash


Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 5 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality


Level 7 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 8 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 9 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery


Level 10 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 11 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 12 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Shield Deflection


Level 13 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 14 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 16 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 17 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: CHA
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Toughness


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Divine Sphere: Holy Strike


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Reflexes


Level 28 (Epic)
Ability Raise: CHA
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Divine Sphere: Forced Escape


Level 29 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Multiple Spheres: Fount of Life


Level 30 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Will
Feat: (Legendary) Scion of the Astral Plane
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Human Versatility: Defense Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Human Adaptability: Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Human Adaptability: Constitution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Cormyrean Knight Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Don't Count Me Out (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Don't Count Me Out (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Don't Count Me Out (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Slayer of Evil I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Slayer of Evil II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Cleave (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Cleave (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Cleave (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Divine Righteousness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Redemption (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Glorious Stand (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Eternal Defender (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Bulwark Aura (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Bulwark Aura (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Bulwark Aura (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Inciting Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Inciting Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Inciting Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resistance Aura (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resistance Aura (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resistance Aura (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Swift Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Hardy Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Hardy Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Hardy Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Harbored by Light (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Harbored by Light (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Harbored by Light (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Reprisal (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Reprisal (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Reprisal (Rank 3)

Tanks?no!You only need trees!

randomusername44 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 10:28pm:


Figures; just kill yourself.

You could just play a well built monk, then kill everything.

20 Paladin tanks can still dish out enough damage to make it worthwhile for certain players/play styles.  Trees and Warlocks can also be "tanks" but hit harder played right.  Fighter or cleric based tanks are garbage.

However, why charisma based on this one?  It doesn't seem worth it....
I would also go sword and shield and take the capstone in Vanguard (41ap) but Tier 5 in Sacred Defender (at least 33ap for Harbored by Light).

Sergod wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 11:53am:


Is it worth giving up Khopesh though in a S&B build?

DoRayEgon wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:


S&b should be bastard sword/dwarven axe anyway.

OP, I'm not planning on it, but if I were to design a tank today, I would go pure dwarf fighter. Dwarven axe, dwarf fortress, max con, throw your weight around, vanguard, defender.

1 Shield mastery
1f Two Handed Fighting
2f Precision
3 Completionist
4f Improved Shield Bash
6 Improved Two Handed Fighting
6f Improved Shield Mastery
8 Improved Crit
9 Hvy Armor Training
10f Heavy Armor Combat
12 Greater Two Handed Fighting
12f Hvy Armor Master
14f Hvy Armor Champ
15 Weapon Focus
16f Weapon Spec
18 Greater Weapon Focus
18f Greater Weapon Spec
20f Superior Weapon Focus
21 Overwhelming Crit
24 Bulwark of Defense
26 Perfect Two Handed Fighting
27 Epic DR
28 Elusive Target
29 Deific Warding
30 Intensify Spell (This works on Cocoon and/or Renewal, right?)
30s Scion of Feywild

41 in Vanguard or Defender
19+ in Dwarf
rest in the other one (Defender/Vanguard)

DoRayEgon wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 2:12pm:


Getting glancing blows (amplified by melee power) trumps the better crit.

17-20x3 Khopesh gets 29 iterations of damage per 20 attacks. Which is a 16% base DPS increase over bastard sword or dwarven axe's 25.

However, glancing blows adds 60% of you damage to 75% of your attacks for a 45% dps increase (+29% net compared to khopesh). You can up those numbers if you invest twists as well. Then there's the base damage difference and feat cost to consider...