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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Stick Build: STR or DEX? Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 1:42pm	Print Post
	I want to use Epic Light Unending because I have a soft spot in my heart for DR-breaking. One of the mods it has on it is Vertigo +15 which, obviously, lends itself well towards making a trip-based Q-Staff toon. I also have a fully upgraded Sireth, Spear of the Sky on the same toon. I don't NEED to make a tripping-based Thief Acrobat but if I heard any compelling arguments for a STR-based build, I'd find a way to make it work. If I were to make a DEX-based build I could go with Sireth and keep Epic Light Unending in my inventory for DR-breaking situations. My problem is the toon's a Halfling so STR, or lack thereof, could be an issue. Anyone have any thoughts on which avenue I should pursue? Any build, in particular, I should consider? I'd like to go pure Rogue but I would consider an 18Rog/2x build if it were compelling enough.
	« Last Edit: Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 1:43pm by Technomage »
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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: Stick Build: STR or DEX? Reply #1 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 1:45pm	Print Post
	DEX is always superior to STR, in all cases; bar none. You need 5 monk levels for proper staffness, however, it's still a DPS gimp no matter how you roll it up.
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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Stick Build: STR or DEX? Reply #2 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 2:45pm	Print Post
	[] wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 1:45pm: DEX is always superior to STR, in all cases; bar none.� You need 5 monk levels for proper staffness, however, it's still a DPS gimp no matter how you roll it up. Why 5 levels of Monk? The Tier 5 TA list of abilities is far more attractive than the T5 list of Henshin Mystic.

	Do not try the patience of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger. We are dreamers, shapers, singers, and makers. We study the mysteries of laser and circuit, crystal and scanner, holographic demons and invocation of equations. These are the tools we employ, and we know many things. The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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Holyavatar Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 64 Joined: Feb 20^th, 2015	Re: Stick Build: STR or DEX? Reply #3 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 7:05pm	Print Post
	Str?Nope.For a pure rogue TA build,you either go dex or int with op human... � �The sweeping strikes is based on Dex mod,and dire charge is based on highest mod...You dont need any single target cc like trip....
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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: Stick Build: STR or DEX? Reply #4 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 9:53pm	Print Post
	Technomage wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 2:45pm: Why 5 levels of Monk? The Tier 5 TA list of abilities is far more attractive than the T5 list of Henshin Mystic. 4 then? Whatever gets the tip of your dick wet before your take your pants off; lots of good shit in them thar monk trees. You're still building a gimp, only less so with monk trees.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Stick Build: STR or DEX? Reply #5 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 10:28pm	Print Post
	18 sorc for the ek cores. do eetttt

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QuantumFX Shroud Slacker Offline Now back to the GOOD part! Posts: 1170 Joined: Nov 15^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Stick Build: STR or DEX? Reply #6 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 10:29pm	Print Post
	I liked DEX based with just enough STR to pick up the THF line.


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Sgtgig Waterworks Kobold Offline Posts: 172 Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013	Re: Stick Build: STR or DEX? Reply #7 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 10:50pm	Print Post
	[] wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 9:53pm: 4 then?� Whatever gets the tip of your dick wet before your take your pants off; lots of good shit in them thar monk trees.� You're still building a gimp, only less so with monk trees. There's absolutely nothing in the monk trees that can make up for 20% doublestrike, especially since Air Stance doesn't stack with insightful DS items. You can make a case for 2 monk splash but the lvl18 core is not negotiable. And Acrobat isn't really gimp, no they're not ranger level DPS but they're quite a long way away from garbage like Monk or Kensai. Plus they're really survivable, and not as frickin' useless as shield builds. It's pretty fun to facetank LE Sor'jek or pt2 cat, even if you can only do it for one minute at a time. edit: also DEX based is better cause Sweeping Strikes DC scales off of that.
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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: Stick Build: STR or DEX? Reply #8 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:05pm	Print Post
	Quick Strike: Doublestrike Buff up to 25%, stacks with everything. No Mercy: 30% more damage to helpless (i.e. knocked down) opponents. That's some sexy shit, my nigga.
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Holyavatar Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 64 Joined: Feb 20^th, 2015	Re: Stick Build: STR or DEX? Reply #9 - Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:15pm	Print Post
	TA also has quick strike and no mercy...Btw,only knocked down count as helpless is FoTW one


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Grand Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Stick Build: STR or DEX? Reply #10 - Feb 24^th, 2016 at 12:02am	Print Post
	Holyavatar wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:15pm: Btw,only knocked down count as helpless is FoTW one� ^This. Bloody ninja nerfed back in June by Sev_Pay to save face.


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QuantumFX Shroud Slacker Offline Now back to the GOOD part! Posts: 1170 Joined: Nov 15^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Stick Build: STR or DEX? Reply #11 - Feb 24^th, 2016 at 1:55am	Print Post
	Quickstrike is a Morale bonus to doublestrike.� It doesn�t stack with Killer, but it does give you a higher total. As for a Halfling Acrobat, you can have a 45% Dodge fairly easily. Dodge: 06 - 20 Rogue 03 - Dodge 02 - Mobility 10 - Full Stacks of Nimbleness 15 - Enhancement 03 - Shadow Dodge 05 - Spinning Staff Wall 04 - Scion of the Astral Plane ------------------------------- 48 Max Dex: 22 - Legendary Light Armor 02 - Boat Buff 11 - Acrobat Enhancements 02 - Mobility 03 - Nimble Reaction 02 - Armor Mastery Augment 03 - Shadow Dodge ------------------------------- 45 Max Dodge 25 - Base 02 - Boat Buff 11 - Thief Acrobat 03 - Nimble Reaction 04 - Scion of the Astral Plane ------------------------------- 45
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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: Stick Build: STR or DEX? Reply #12 - Feb 25^th, 2016 at 5:56pm	Print Post
	Holyavatar wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 11:15pm: TA also has quick strike and no mercy...Btw,only knocked down count as helpless is FoTW one� WTF they nerfed knock down?! Was that shit too fucking OP to go on unfucked with?! Fuck!!!


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