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Gnome Barbarian: Max dps TWF barb
Mar 20th, 2016 at 2:01pm
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I recently found that they changed rage to provide +1 threat, this combined with gnome light pick threat range led me to the following conclusions about critical threat range.

light pick, 20x4
-> gnome, 19-20/x4
-> rage, 18-20/x4
-> imp crit, 17-20/x4

19-20 +1 bonuses:
overwhelming critical
legendary dreadnaught
frenzied berserker (x3)

result:
17-18/x4
19-20/x9

  • Crit multiplier of the build: 2.1
    Crit multiplier of the build as human: 1.95
    Crit multiplier of the build with human khopeshes: 2
    Tempest scimitar multiplier: 1.9
    Tempest khopesh multiplier: 1.95

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Reply #1 - Mar 20th, 2016 at 2:39pm
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Critical Rage: Increases your critical threat range by 1/2 when raging (competence bonus).

Gnomish Weapon Training: +2 to hit and damage with light hammers, light maces, light picks, shortswords, shortbows, light crossbows, and light repeating crossbows. +1 Competence Bonus to Critical Threat Range with the same weapons.

Is the wiki wrong or you off meds?
  
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lol, no you just can't math or read there tard
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 2:01pm:
-> rage, 18-20/x4


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Reply #4 - Mar 20th, 2016 at 6:23pm
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I recently found that they changed rage to provide +1 threat


True shit, not talking ravager
am talkin 0 ap spent, +1 threat while raging

if only the servers didn't suck ass...
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this math is so fucking good.
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Sergod wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 6:24pm:
this math is so fucking good.


use your int to calculate the value of tactics now
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True shit, not talking ravager
am talkin 0 ap spent, +1 threat while raging


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Reply #10 - Mar 21st, 2016 at 7:45pm
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Great now this feature is going to get fixed! Thanks op! Much appreciated! 😤
  
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Teth wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 7:45pm:
Great now this feature is going to get fixed! Thanks op! Much appreciated! 😤


as soon as they fix trees and wolves?
  

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5 Foot Step wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 6:30pm:
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Were you living under a rock ? This is old news.
  
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 7:51pm:
as soon as they fix trees and wolves?


And kta with divine might! 😝
  
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Teth wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 9:16pm:
And kta with divine might! 😝


ORLY?
  
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Sergod wrote on Mar 29th, 2016 at 10:26pm:
ORLY?


Yep it's why 18/1/1 ranger is the awesome sauce. 15-20x4 khopeshs with a quick swap to shroud weapons and popping divine might and kta.
  
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Teth wrote on Mar 30th, 2016 at 1:21pm:
Yep it's why 18/1/1 ranger is the awesome sauce. 15-20x4 khopeshs with a quick swap to shroud weapons and popping divine might and kta.

After reading your post this was my thought. 1 fighter, rogue, or bard? Pm me yo.
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Bard would allow max perform to boost Scion of Feywild
  
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Sergod wrote on Mar 30th, 2016 at 11:50pm:
After reading your post this was my thought. 1 fighter, rogue, or bard? Pm me yo.

fvs for Divine Might, ftr for kopesh feat.


edit: think teth said 1 ranger, so 1fvs/1rng. manyshot using bow str?
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Teth wrote on Mar 30th, 2016 at 1:21pm:
Yep it's why 18/1/1 ranger is the awesome sauce. 15-20x4 khopeshs with a quick swap to shroud weapons and popping divine might and kta.


How does it reach 15-20? Isn't it 19-20 +2 Imp. Crit +1 enhancement = 16-20?
  
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Teth wrote on Mar 30th, 2016 at 1:21pm:
Yep it's why 18/1/1 ranger is the awesome sauce. 15-20x4 khopeshs with a quick swap to shroud weapons and popping divine might and kta.


How does that beat 10 Melee power and +25% off-hand?
  
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Bigjunk wrote on Apr 2nd, 2016 at 5:34pm:
How does that beat 10 Melee power and +25% off-hand?


It probably does not, but hey, you have a use for all the duped LGS stuff (satisfying), you get to switch gear every 2 mins (a bit more lag is always fun) and mash few more buttons (yay active combat).
  
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crunch wrote on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 12:19am:
It probably does not, but hey, you have a use for all the duped LGS stuff (satisfying), you get to switch gear every 2 mins (a bit more lag is always fun) and mash few more buttons (yay active combat).


Yea, you so need to dupe ingredients to craft 2 weapons with +15/+7. Also in what possible scenario are you ever fighting something in this game for a solid 2 minutes? Button mashing? Really?

As for why/how it does more damage, it's a bit too much of the little things, but in the end it is all personal preference. I like having an extra +15 ish to hit and dc's of tactical feats.  In comparison to actual dps if you hit everytime sans a 1, I was always getting faster times unless the mob has some serious fortification. There's too much little stuff and nitpicking to give a solid definitive answer.  Play what you will though, both versions are well-rounded.
  
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Reply #23 - Apr 3rd, 2016 at 1:09pm
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20-25 str 1 crit range vs 10 melee power and 25% offhand...
  
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Sergod wrote on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 1:09pm:
20-25 str 1 crit range vs 10 melee power and 25% offhand...


1 crit range?
  
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