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Butterface thrower
Jun 12th, 2016 at 1:55am
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Butterface Tropicwisdom
12/7/1 Fighter/Monk/Wizard
Half-Elf


Level Order

1. Wizard. . . . . 6. Monk . . . . . 11. Fighter. . . . 16. Fighter
2. Monk. . . . . . 7. Monk . . . . . 12. Fighter. . . . 17. Fighter
3. Monk. . . . . . 8. Fighter . . . .13. Fighter . . . .18. Fighter
4. Monk. . . . . . 9. Fighter . . . .14. Fighter . . . .19. Fighter
5. Monk. . . . . .10. Fighter . . . .15. Fighter . . . .20. Monk



Stats
. . . . . . . .36pt . . Tome . . Level Up
. . . . . . . .---- . . ---- . . --------
Strength. . . . .8. . . .+6. . . .4: WIS
Dexterity . . . 16. . . .+6. . . .8: WIS
Constitution. . 12. . . .+6. . . 12: WIS
Intelligence. . 14. . . .+6. . . 16: WIS
Wisdom. . . . . 18. . . .+6. . . 20: WIS
Charisma. . . . .8. . . .+6. . . 24: WIS
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: WIS


Feats

.1. . . . : Point Blank Shot
.1 HalfElf: Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue
.1 Wizard : Spell Focus: Enchantment
.2 Monk . : Shuriken Expertise
.3. . . . : Completionist
.3 Monk . : Precision
.4 Monk . : Path of Harmonious Balance
.6. . . . : Precise Shot
.7 Monk . : Ten Thousand Stars
.8 Fighter: Rapid Shot
.9. . . . : Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
.9 Fighter: Quick Draw
11 Fighter: Improved Critical: Thrown
12. . . . : Master of Forms
13 Fighter: Weapon Focus: Thrown
15. . . . : Past Life: Bard
15 Fighter: Weapon Specialization: Thrown
17 Fighter: Improved Precise Shot
18. . . . : Grandmaster of Forms
19 Fighter: Greater Weapon Focus: Thrown
21 Epic . : Combat Archery
24 Epic . : Embolden Spell
26 Destiny: Guardian Angel
27 Epic . : Blinding Speed
28 Destiny: Doubleshot
29 Destiny: Harbinger of Chaos
30 Epic . : Past Life: Wizard
30 Legend : Scion of: Feywild


Enhancements (80 AP)

Kensei (35 AP)
  • Kensei Focus: Archery, Spiritual Bond, Strike with No Thought, Power Surge
    [list=1]
  • Extra Action Boost III, Weapon Group Specialization, Haste Boost III
  • Weapon Group Specialization, Ascetic Training: Contemplation III
  • Weapon Group Specialization, Shattering Shot I, Wisdom
  • Weapon Group Specialization, Strike at the Heart, Wisdom
  • A Good Death: Range, Weapon Master, One with the Blade, Keen Edge

Half-Elf (21 AP)
  • Versatile Nature, Human Wisdom, Human Damage Boost
    [list=1]
  • Improved Dilettante: Rogue
  • Improved Recovery, Improved Dilettante: Rogue
  • Action Surge: Wisdom III, Wisdom, Arcane Archer
  • Improved Dilettante: Rogue

Elf-Arcane Archer (16 AP)
  • Arcane Archer
    [list=1]
  • Corrosive Arrows, Awareness II
  • Dispelling Shot I, Inferno Shot I, Elemental Damage
  • Terror Arrows, Elemental Damage, Wisdom

Ninja Spy (8 AP)
  • Basic Ninja Training, Advanced Ninja Training
    [list=1]
  • Sneak Attack Training, Acrobatic II
  • Sneak Attack Training


Roleplay a fetal alcohol syndrome backstory or /showhelmet on and leave it on.

Building heavily on GT, Deathstars, 5FS Kensei Shuriken, and others, thanks and props to the work that has gone before. Much has been covered in those threads so I'll pretty much stick to what is different.

The fugly Helf finally gets to do something other than wait until last call and hope somebody is drunk enough to take it home. It gets Terror Arrows without 3 levels of ranger because 12 fighter is needed for Power Surge and 6 monk for 10k. Power Surge with Action Surge is +11 to Wisdom. Butterface goes full tropic thunder on Wisdom for Terror DC and converts it to RP with 10k.

This split should do less damage than the Kensei Shuriken because no DWS means less SA and doubleshot and no Improved Archer's Focus. Ethereal instead of Feywild could close that a little but it still only gets 4d6 SA.  It also loses out on some +2 and +3 RP feats. Plus no Dodge/Mobility which open up the enhancements for a missing pile of dodge % that kind of hurts on a pajama thrower. Also being down 3 monk levels loses 15 doubleshot during 10k. For all that it gets Terror Arrows and Power Surge.

Compared to GT it of course loses the expanded vorpal range and a pile of SA. It will be ahead on Wisdom by 12 from Power Surge and GMoF.

Compared to Death Stars it will be ahead 11 Wisdom from Power Surge and Action Surge. Down 25 doubleshot during 10k. No Improved Archer's Focus. No Warlock debuff.

Wisdom
18
7 lvl
6 tome
15 enhance
7 insight
3 quality
1 exceptional
2 festive
2 profane
2 yugo
2 completionist
4 ap
4 GMoF
8 Power Surge
3 Action Surge
=84 (No ED)

10k is going to give 84 RP. (Full stacks of Blitz in LD gives 82.)

Terror DC
1 Enchant focus
1 Great Enchant focus
1 Wizard PL
1 Bard PL
2 Embolden spell
4 Scion Feywild
1 AA terror
1 Profane DC
2 Enchant insightful
6 Enchant Competance
2 Enchant Greater Augment
1 Guild ship
20+23+42 = 87 (No ED or twists)

I left off ED and twists on purpose. 87 is pretty damn high. Enchant Specialist and Draconic Presence will get it to 93 for two twists.

Then it's down to a Wisdom or non-Wisdom ED. Steelstar made the case for EA and Primal for the DC. That 6 and 8 Wisdom will get converted to RP during 10k.

Primal seems to be the middle of the road choice; 24 RP, 8 more during 10k, +4 DC.

LD is full tropic RP with no DC help.

Shadowdancer could drop Feywild for Ethereal; dropping to 89 Terror DC with twists but getting SA and Dex.

Full disclosure on theory v. reality. I don't own a 15/7 greensteel wis item or Epic Litany so that's pie in the sky for me. Also I didn't play this build on my main with the past lives and +6 tome. I have it on a second life alt with shit gear and tomes and no destinies leveled. It is kicking a fair amount of ass but the version above is idealized and may contain errors. Likely, actually.

One thing I dither about is dropping the extra elemental damage for times when Terror doesn't work and one SA from Helf to get Shadow Fade. That will probably be how I run it in reality as I push the actual version I have through epics.
  
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Re: Butterface thrower
Reply #1 - Jun 12th, 2016 at 9:58pm
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Can get +3 insightful enchant on vendor trash if you want to min/max
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Reply #2 - Jun 12th, 2016 at 10:16pm
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How many vorpals per second can you get off?
  
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Re: Butterface thrower
Reply #3 - Jun 12th, 2016 at 10:50pm
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EIN DC this thing can put out at max retartedness is 73.
Even with 102 wisdom GMOF can't compete. wtf

Monks would need another 70 wisdom for EIN to be on part with a Prismatic spray's wisdom banish!

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DC 20 + character level +1/2 WIS mod
20 + 30 + 23 = 73DC

Race H-elf.
12 fighter / 6 monk / 2 X
Great terror set-up is possible as well.

Wisdom total: 102 wisdom

Feats and Level-ups
7 level ups
18 base wisdom
2 completionist
7 ability tome
2 greater wisdom feats
4 Grandmaster of Water

Buffs
2 ship buffs

Gear
2 profane
2 alchemical (kama swap)
2 competence (LGS swap)
7 insightful (LGS swap)
16 (random gen swap)

Enhancements
3 action surge
2 h-elf (16 AP)
8 power surge
2 kensai (23 AP)
2 AA (41 AP)

Pots
2  yugoloth potion (item)
2  remnant pot

Destiny
6 GMOF
2 Acute Instincts
2 Wisdom

« Last Edit: Jun 12th, 2016 at 10:56pm by WonderfulFoppyBint »  

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EIN is a WILL save. A 70+ EIN is pretty effective.
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Reply #5 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:41am
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With that 1 level of Wizard and an amped-up Enchantment DC, would Sleep or Hypnotism be a worthwhile choice for a little CC while zerging?
  
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Sounds like princess build
  

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this looks nice dude
  
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harharharhar wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 1:59pm:
this looks nice

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Reply #9 - Jun 18th, 2016 at 5:15pm
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harharharhar wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 1:59pm:
this looks nice dude


Why do you always think dudes look nice, faggot?
  
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gibbon wrote on Jun 12th, 2016 at 1:55am:
Wisdom
18
7 lvl
6 tome
15 enhance
7 insight
3 quality
1 exceptional
2 festive
2 profane
2 yugo
2 completionist
4 ap
4 GMoF
8 Power Surge
3 Action Surge
=84 (No ED)

10k is going to give 84 RP. (Full stacks of Blitz in LD gives 82.)

Terror DC
1 Enchant focus
1 Great Enchant focus
1 Wizard PL
1 Bard PL
2 Embolden spell
4 Scion Feywild
1 AA terror
1 Profane DC
2 Enchant insightful
6 Enchant Competance
2 Enchant Greater Augment
1 Guild ship
20+23+42 = 87 (No ED or twists)

Heya Gibbs. Looking over the numbers here... shouldn't the Wisdom modifier be 37 (not 42) with a Wisdom of 84?
  
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Revaulting wrote on Jun 18th, 2016 at 5:13pm:
Butterslut.


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Re: Butterface thrower
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ChewyOoeyGoOey wrote on Jun 29th, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Heya Gibbs. Looking over the numbers here... shouldn't the Wisdom modifier be 37 (not 42) with a Wisdom of 84?

Indeed it should. Knew I should have taken my shoes off to count on my toes.

Tbh it's not a great build compared to the bleeding edge builds usually posted around here. I thought I would throw it out there to show what can be done with Power Surge and 10k so maybe somebody can add what's missing.
  
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gibbon wrote on Jun 30th, 2016 at 9:55pm:
Indeed it should. Knew I should have taken my shoes off to count on my toes.

Tbh it's not a great build compared to the bleeding edge builds usually posted around here. I thought I would throw it out there to show what can be done with Power Surge and 10k so maybe somebody can add what's missing.

Ah cool, I thought I was missing a feature.

I also understand as I'm pretty much lost once I go past 5 on one hand... Thank goodness for MS Calculator!

To your credit you did acknowledge that there were likely errors at the end of your initial post so we were warned.

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Reply #14 - Jul 1st, 2016 at 5:17pm
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harharharhar wrote on Jun 30th, 2016 at 5:57pm:
huh?

Hey, there's no shame in it. Somebody's got to like the butterfaces.
  

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