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Jun 16th, 2016 at 3:38pm
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https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/476361-Upcoming-Change-to-In-Game-Mail


Because mail causes lag...

Have fun removing the 9K+ items you have in your mailboxes before the Nerf occurs.  Roll Eyes



  

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Reply #1 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 3:45pm
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"We’ve discovered a significant performance issue caused by the in-game mail system when inboxes get too large."

Which is complete bullshit because there's literally NOTHING about mail that affects performance: no sound, animation, calculations, rendering, etc; NOTHING!  This is total bullshit of the highest order, and they're not even trying to hide it.
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Reply #2 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 3:46pm
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IF it is a source of lag, fucking nerf away ...... not that I think it is but hey, who knows
  
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Reply #3 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 3:47pm
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It does say you won't lose anything, just can't use the AH until you get to less than 50.
  

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Toke wrote on Jun 16th, 2016 at 3:47pm:
It does say you won't lose anything, just can't use the AH until you get to less than 50.


>implying that statement is an all-you-need-to-know reflection of reality that gramatically encapsulates exactly what's going to happen when the change is implemented; and nothing more.
  
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Reply #5 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 4:03pm
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Where we are you going to hide the duped shit?
  

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Reply #6 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 4:17pm
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LagMonsterrrrrr wrote on Jun 16th, 2016 at 4:03pm:
Where we are you going to hide the duped shit?


The carbon-based organism, female life-form, that so casually reproduced, and gave birth to you as an offspring, must certainly be an ample recepticle for all storage needs.
  
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Reply #7 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 4:35pm
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Who the fuck has that many emails?  Fucking hoarders.
  
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Reply #8 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 4:42pm
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Asheras wrote on Jun 16th, 2016 at 4:35pm:
Who the fuck has that many mails?  Fucking hoarders.


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Shit, nigger: hondo stacks of pots, ddoor scrolls, collectibles like deadly feverblanches, lightning-split soarwoods, and every last fucking thing that I needed to keep, but didn't need to acccess 24/7; there's NO FUCKING INVENTORY SPACE in a game that forces you to collect thousands of items for crafting alone.
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Reply #9 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 4:43pm
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[] wrote on Jun 16th, 2016 at 4:42pm:
Shit, nigger: hondo stacks of pots, ddoor scrolls, ingredients, and every last fucking thing that I needed to keep, but didn't need to acccess 24/7; there's NO FUCKING INVENTORY SPACE in a game that forces you to collect thousands of items for crafting alone.


Fuck you stupid baby bitch boy.
  

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Reply #10 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 4:46pm
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Mokune wrote on Jun 16th, 2016 at 4:43pm:
Fuck you stupid baby bitch boy.


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[] wrote on Jun 16th, 2016 at 4:42pm:
FITFYN


Shit, nigger: hondo stacks of pots, ddoor scrolls, collectibles like deadly feverblanches, lightning-split soarwoods, and every last fucking thing that I needed to keep, but didn't need to acccess 24/7; there's NO FUCKING INVENTORY SPACE in a game that forces you to collect thousands of items for crafting alone.


You can buy pots from the vendor when you need them really easily.  No need to mail them to yourself.  DDoor scrolls are 1 inventory slot.  Collectibles go in a bag, moron.  Or shared crafting storage.  Conumables, collectibles, and ingredients is a really fucking stupid excuse.  And even for the few items that might make sense, there's not 10 of them.  Let alone 50. 

Laziness is the only real reason people have that much shit in their mailbox. 
  
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Reply #12 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 4:56pm
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Asheras wrote on Jun 16th, 2016 at 4:49pm:
DDoor scrolls are 1 inventory slot.


>implying ddoor scrolls have properties different from other scrolls.

UMD every life: 100 stack.

Asheras wrote on Jun 16th, 2016 at 4:49pm:
Collectibles go in a bag, moron.


Play it your way, where do the bags go then, genius?

Asheras wrote on Jun 16th, 2016 at 4:49pm:
Conumables, collectibles, and ingredients is a really fucking stupid excuse.


Not when there's thousands of them.

Asheras wrote on Jun 16th, 2016 at 4:49pm:
And even for the few items that might make sense, there's not 10 of them.


Do you even Eldritch craft twink gear for every level, every life, faggot?

Lern 2 DDO.
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Reply #13 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 5:12pm
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Asheras wrote on Jun 16th, 2016 at 4:49pm:
Laziness is the only real reason people have that much shit in their mailbox. 

Good call. The last thing Turbine should allow is lazy video game playing.
  

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Reply #14 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 5:20pm
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[] wrote on Jun 16th, 2016 at 4:56pm:
UMD every life: 100 stack.


Play it your way, where do the bags go then, genius?


Not when there's thousands of them.


Do you even Eldritch craft twink gear for every level, every life, faggot?

Lern 2 DDO.


A stack of 100 Ddoor scroll takes 1 inventory spot.  Still.   You don't need 200 of them in your inventory. 

5 inventory slots for bags - Collectible, Ingredients, Gems, Cookie Jar, Augments.  So far 6 slots out of 100.  That's 94 other slots. 

Bags stack to 1000 each item.  A large collectibles bag is sufficent as is a huge ingredients bag.  (or 2 larges, if you are a poor ass MF).  No worries there. 

Do I eldritch craft twink gear for every level?  No.  Why would I?  This isn't 2009.  Leveling goes too quickly and is too easy to waste time with that.  +1 to AC, saves, or some small force damage isn't moving the needle anymore.  Changing gear on leveling TR's is a thing of the past.  Let alone crafting BTC gear for it. 

Lern to DDO in 2016, not the ancient past.
  
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Reply #15 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 5:22pm
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Revaulting wrote on Jun 16th, 2016 at 5:12pm:
Good call. The last thing Turbine should allow is lazy video game playing.


Meh.  I'm sure they could give a shit less if it wasn't affecting game performance in some way.  They certainly didn't seem to give a shit for 10 years.

The last thing Turbine should allow is lazy habits of a few that affect performance for all.
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Reply #16 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 5:40pm
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"will be reaching out to some folks who have exceptionally large inboxes in the coming days"

REACHING OUT WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE
  

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Reply #17 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 6:02pm
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[] wrote on Jun 16th, 2016 at 4:56pm:
UMD every life: 100 stack.


Play it your way, where do the bags go then, genius?


Not when there's thousands of them.


Do you even Eldritch craft twink gear for every level, every life, faggot?

Lern 2 DDO.


For someone who doesn't play a ten year old dead video game for faggots - you sure seem upset Marty.
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You have to be butt ugly to want to play a fucking Dungeons & Dragons MMORPG from 2006 instead of getting dick; just sayin'.


A bit like those ranged build changes that got your silk panties twisted in a knot too.

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Reply #18 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 7:41pm
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Should limit the tr cache space too while they are at it.
The outrage of obsessive hoarders would be hysterical.
  
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Wipe wrote on Jun 16th, 2016 at 7:41pm:
Should limit the tr cache space too while they are at it.


Boa, shut yo fuggin mouff!
  
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Reply #20 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 7:55pm
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Time to name chone again princess
  

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Asheras wrote on Jun 16th, 2016 at 5:22pm:
The last thing Turbine should allow is lazy habits of a few that affect performance for all.

So ... mass layoffs?
  

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TLDR: OG mail was OP so 86'd.
  
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Reply #23 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 9:02pm
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I called it as soon as they said they were 'monitoring' mailboxes.  And then it was confirmed before it was confirmed by Jerry with a smug post of "Get ready to lose items in your mail."  I have to wonder if he deleted that, because I can't find it on the first page.  But he seems to have been busy with the official announcement, so maybe it just got pushed to the second page.


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We’ve discovered a significant performance issue caused by the in-game mail system when inboxes get too large.

Translation:  We don't have a (competent) DBA, so shit like this is really hard for us to do.  So that's why we didn't have a handle on the fact that people were storing literally thousands of items in their mailboxes.  And then we were all like WTF!?!  We sell storage!  Time to fix this, pronto!

There will be no change to lag from this patch.


Edit:  I found smug Jerry's post leading up to losing stuff in mail storage:
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/476034-Downtime-Notice-Wednesday-June-...
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Do not use the mail system for long-term storage, unless you enjoy losing things.
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I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect.


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Reply #24 - Jun 16th, 2016 at 9:07pm
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Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2016 at 9:02pm:
So that's why we didn't have a handle on the fact that people were storing literally thousands of items in their mailboxes.  And then we were all like WTF!?!  We sell storage!  Time to fix this, pronto!There will be no change to lag from this patch.


100% correct.
  
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