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TWF Favored Soul or Cleric build?
Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:33pm
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Despite not even having hit 20 on my current life(that's going to 30) I already find myself thinking about my next life. I've got 3 to go before I hit completionist(Cleric, Favored Soul, and Druid), and I was thinking it'd been a while since I did a Two Weapon Fighting build.

I've got piles of khopeshes left over from my ranger lives. There must be a good/decent build for favored soul or cleric that TWFs.

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Re: TWF Favored Soul or Cleric build?
Reply #1 - Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:48pm
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Not unless you splash 6 Fighter.
  
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Hard to say no to splashing 6 fighter.
  
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Reply #3 - Jul 22nd, 2016 at 10:02pm
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If you splash 6 fighter it will be decent.  You can get the tier 5 kensai enhancements and the +1 to crit range and crit multiplier.  Go human and you will have dual boost.  Add that with stalwart stance strength, divine might, divine power, and divine favor, and you should do decent DPS.  Probably max strength with the rest split in Con and Charisma.
  
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Reply #4 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 6:03pm
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2 druid 5 ranger 13 x for heal.

End up with heavy dragon scale + shield + TWF AoE + self healing character.
  
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Reply #5 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 8:03pm
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2 druid 5 ranger 13 x for heal.

End up with heavy dragon scale + shield + TWF AoE + self healing character.


5 ranger vs. 6 fighter costs you the crit multiplier and crit range.  I like the Tempest tree and killer better, but I'm not sure it's better enough to offset the crit profile differences.
  
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Reply #6 - Jul 24th, 2016 at 9:42am
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If you're gonna go wolf, you might as well add SWF to your TWF.
  
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1Barb/8Fighter/11Cleric DO EET
  
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Reply #8 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 11:01am
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For a TWF Cleric life 11 Cleric/6 Fighter/3 Ranger is best.

For FVS 14 FVS/6 Fighter or 12FVS/6FGT/2x.
  
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Mokune wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 7:13am:
1Barb/8Fighter/11Cleric DO EET


Oh god... BB kiting, self healing, being a barbarian-cleric?! I think I may have my next build!

Side note: why the fuck do paladins require you to be Lawful Good but clerics can be any damn alignment? I feel like clerics are basically just dudes who failed at being paladins.
  
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Reply #10 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 1:21pm
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Cause clerics have a whole pantheon (or pantheons) to choose from. Paladins can be blackguards too, but they're supposed to be a stylized knight of old (though 5th Ed changes that), hence the required lawfulness.
  
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WeHaveLived wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 1:21pm:
Cause clerics have a whole pantheon (or pantheons) to choose from. Paladins can be blackguards too, but they're supposed to be a stylized knight of old (though 5th Ed changes that), hence the required lawfulness.


I always questioned this.  To be a knight you just have to be knighted by a king whether you're a saint or sinner.

I guess evil folks keep undead and demons as pets instead of killing them for loot.
  
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WeHaveLived wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 1:21pm:
Cause clerics have a whole pantheon (or pantheons) to choose from. Paladins can be blackguards too, but they're supposed to be a stylized knight of old (though 5th Ed changes that), hence the required lawfulness.


Paladins also get a whole pantheon to choose from. In PnP there are evil paladins(a friend of mine played one, he specifically took a 1 in Int so my character would stop trying to trick him into reading explosive runes. Good times.

I guess it makes a certain amount of sense that the paladin has to be "Lawful" and aligned(can't be neutral) so good paladins have to be lawful good and bad ones lawful evil(my evil paladin friend kept trying to convert everyone... since my character was chaotic evil he made a lot of good points about his demon god.
  
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Isn't the lowest in any stat you can take like 3? Hell, 7 or 8 (I forget) is enough for illiteracy, if that's all you want.
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WeHaveLived wrote on Jul 26th, 2016 at 4:45pm:
Isn't the lowest in any stat you can take like 3? Hell, 7 or 8 (I forget) is enough for illiteracy, if that's all you want.


We may or may not have been using a lot of house rules.
  
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DoRayEgon wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 11:01am:
For a TWF Cleric life 11 Cleric/6 Fighter/3 Ranger is best.


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noamineo wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 12:44pm:
Side note: why the fuck do paladins require you to be Lawful Good but clerics can be any damn alignment? I feel like clerics are basically just dudes who failed at being paladins.


Clerics are supposed to correspond with their deity's alignment, and there are deities of every alignment. (DDO's allowed choices are laughably small-minded.)

Paladins are supposed to be zealots though, and there's simply nothing to be zealous about in a neutral outlook. There are theoretically CG, LE, and CE "paladins" but they are actually called something else.
  
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 10:51am:
Clerics are supposed to correspond with their deity's alignment, and there are deities of every alignment. (DDO's allowed choices are laughably small-minded.)


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eighnuss wrote on Jul 26th, 2016 at 6:55pm:
11 3 6


11 Cleric / 3 fighter / 6 Ranger does make more sense, since you get more twf feats from the ranger levels, and 3 levels of fighter still nets you ~4 feats. 11 Cleric easily gets you into Heal, Blade Barrier, and Cometfall.

Hey, think this build should get to wear heavy armor? I'm going to have to do a fleshy life on it(/sigh) but I've actually got a few bits of heavy armor lying around.
  
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WeHaveLived wrote on Jul 25th, 2016 at 1:21pm:
Cause clerics have a whole pantheon (or pantheons) to choose from. Paladins can be blackguards too, but they're supposed to be a stylized knight of old (though 5th Ed changes that), hence the required lawfulness.


Because Paladins are too stupid to wield infinite power like DnD clerics.
  
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SpaceGoat wrote on Jul 28th, 2016 at 11:58am:
Because Paladins are too stupid to wield infinite power like DnD clerics.


I played a chaotic stupid sorcerer once. That was fun.

Although it got a little annoying... the DM told us we were supposed to do things in line with our alignment. So I insited a bunch of villagers to tear a guy apart because he was a werewolf. Ok, might have been a werewolf. Still: chaotic evil. Riots? Vigalate justice on a possibly innocent man? How is that NOT chaotically evil?!
  
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noamineo wrote on Jul 28th, 2016 at 1:30pm:
How is that NOT chaotically evil?!

Did you get to keep his stuff? Did they elect you mayor? Was he a rival of some kind? Had he unknowingly insulted your ego in some way? Was it all just because you knew it was something one of your party members would find abhorrent, or would haunt their stupid goody-goody conscience that you tricked them into participating?

Without these finer details, it's really just CN.
  
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Revaulting wrote on Jul 29th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Did you get to keep his stuff? Did they elect you mayor? Was he a rival of some kind? Had he unknowingly insulted your ego in some way? Was it all just because you knew it was something one of your party members would find abhorrent, or would haunt their stupid goody-goody conscience that you tricked them into participating?

Without these finer details, it's really just CN.


Yes, no, I'd never met him, yes of course he insulted me somehow, and nobody else in the party seemed to care(We weren't exactly big damn heroes). Plus it was a shithole town, I just wanted to see their lives get worse.
  
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noamineo wrote on Aug 1st, 2016 at 11:32am:
Plus it was a shithole town, I just wanted to see their lives get worse.

Seems CE enough to me. Too much of that same motive though, and you start flirting with Lawful. And alcoholism.

Hmm. I think I'm going to have to add "Alcoholic" to the alignment system for my next campaign. You know, for truth in advertising. I do use a home-brewed rules-set, after all.
  
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