I have never managed to do a quarterstaff build yet, and I'd like to do one next. Is there any specific trick to it, or just "a bunch of rogue levels and some feats"?

I am looking to, if possible, earn a fvs past life feat. I was thinking of trying 11 fvs/7 rogue/2 fighter, or something to that effect(fighter for the extra feats). If feats aren't as important I could do Bladeforged Paladin with 3 paladin/9fhz/8 whatever(probably rogue). I have no idea how viable any of these splits are. I just recall that quarterstaff builds were all the rage a while back, and I am nothing if not well behind the leading edge.

Start with 4 BF pali for reconstruct, bf immunities, pali immunities, dg, and the most important ability of them all, item defense, because you will be beating billion hp mobs with wooden sticks.

Add a half dozen rogue for QS use.

Go wild with last 10 levels.

With BF Reconstruct, the only purpose of the fvs levels is for the past life.

I could do 4 Paladin/7 rogue(7 over 6 gets 4d6)/ and 9 fvs. Play with a lot of deception/double-strike.

Yeah, that sounds like it could be a lot of fun.

What 5FS said...

If you must have the FVS icon I would go 12 FVS, 5 rog, 3 fighter or paladin.  It'll get you to 20, but not quickly.

Best stick builds will be 20 rogue or 18 rogue/2 monk.

Bladeforged 11 rogue 6 monk 3 paladin and 12 rogue 5 wizard 3 paladin work well too.

5 Foot Step wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 4:46pm:


What was it that made Sireth so good? I am genuinely curious.

Unfortunately I haven't got one and won't be getting one before I hit 23 on that life, so it is somewhat moot. I just know I was seeing those quite a bit.

Ok, so my Bladeforged 4 Paladin/7 Rogue/9 FVS is not looking terribly viable. Is it just not possible to shoe-horn FVS into this? I'd really like to do a quarterstaff build but if I can't make it work this life I guess it will have to wait.

What if I did Shadarkair 9 rogue/11 fvs?

I'm not doing a heroic build. I've had my fill of those.

noamineo wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 6:23pm:


Crit range 16-20 base, plus solid base damage (for the time, anyway.)  The Planar Focus set was decent once, too.

noamineo wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 6:24pm:


Shillalegh spell, only good if you have wooden staves.

Also Ram's Might.

Starkjade wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 7:33pm:


Sireth still has that crit range as far as I can tell, why is that not good anymore?



Starkjade wrote on Sep 12^th, 2016 at 7:33pm:


Enchants your wooden melee weapons to do additional base weapon damage, and converts their damage type to bludgeoning. Weapons with this enchantment deal an additional 0.5[W] damage. Quarterstaves with this enchantment deal an additional 1.0[W] damage. A weapon can only have one item enhancement at a time.

Cast on:

http://ddowiki.com/page/Stout_Oak_Walking_Stick

Seems like it would be very nice. For 2 or 3 druid levels might well be worth it.

Maybe

Shadar Kai 9 Rogue/10 Fvs/1 Druid? I feel like that may not suck.

noamineo wrote on Sep 13^th, 2016 at 12:52am:


Is nice, but like 5fs said, eclipsed by current "must-have" weaponry.

I would really recommend trying out a stick build without the FvS first time around, the TA abilities take some getting used to. 

My TA is stuck on a Rog/Pal/Rgr split, trying to make use of Exposing Strike from DWS core III, and Sacred Defense and not having enough AP to be really playable.  Beware!

2 Rogue 6 Fighter 12 FVS will get it done for you.

Get the Qstaff attack speed out of Acrobat (4 pts).  Tier 5 in Kensai with staff (31 pts).  6 pts in Stalwart Defender.  Go strength based and get Divine Might from WarPriest (4 pts).  For a total of 45 pts.  Put the rest in whatever.

9 FvS/9 Drd/2 Rgr Wolf
9 FvS/7 Brd/4 Rog Swash

I think it's time we discussed your Bladeforged addiction. 

Anyway, regarding my BF stick-smacker build, its ended up being not too shaby so far. I wouldn't really recomend it as a "build" because the 9 fvs levels aren't doing jack shit besides providing a favs PL. DPS is entertaining, seeing lots of 1100-pt crits(at lvl 15). It may not be top-tier but its better than terrible. I  am doing well with sneak attack, using a RADII quarterstaff and Guidance of Shar(bot prock blindness effects, sometimes even on my enemies!) which creates good Sneak Attack damage. I imagine I will suck for a bit in early epics but I should at least be survivable.

Question: does the feat Heavy Armor Combatant work on Bladeforged? I took Adamantine Body so my docent counts as heavy armor, but I am not seeing the six PRR when i equip it.