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Best furyshot frame now?
Nov 17th, 2016 at 4:52pm
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I experimented with a 9 Monk 6 Fighter 3 Rogue.  Tier 5 kensai seemed the best with Fury with A Good Death, Tier 5 Ninja Spy was nice for consistent damage with the double threat range. 

I found myself missing Sniper Shot from DWS with no ranger and the 20% doubleshot from the tier 5 though.

Has anyone found an optiaml spread yet?
  
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Reply #1 - Nov 17th, 2016 at 10:24pm
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You missed the boat, homeboy; you're trying to optimize an inherently gimped concept.  The nerfs to manyshot and 10k stars crippled any notion of ranged DPS.  The people impressed by what's currently achievable never had a clue of what was possible before.
  
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Reply #2 - Nov 17th, 2016 at 10:37pm
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Says the noob who never even knew how manyshot worked, only an idiot wouldn't know that it wasn't '4 arrows every time'. You were so ignorant of the rules when you played you shouldn't even be allowed to post in the build section.
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Reply #3 - Nov 17th, 2016 at 10:39pm
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Says the noob who never even knew how manyshot worked. You were so ignorant of the rules when you played you shouldn't even be allowed to post in the build section.


Says the dumbass who fell for a demonstrably false statement, on its face, and never suspecting for a moment he was getting trolled for what...14 months now?

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Reply #4 - Nov 29th, 2016 at 6:22am
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DoRayEgon wrote on Nov 17th, 2016 at 4:52pm:
I experimented with a 9 Monk 6 Fighter 3 Rogue.  Tier 5 kensai seemed the best with Fury with A Good Death, Tier 5 Ninja Spy was nice for consistent damage with the double threat range. 

I found myself missing Sniper Shot from DWS with no ranger and the 20% doubleshot from the tier 5 though.

Has anyone found an optiaml spread yet?



This may sound boring Doc but Pure human Mechanic is pretty amazing with Fury. Make sure to hit the double damage boost and twist in some +3[W] ranged strikes to cycle through with leg shot and it's all gravy. Huge hits (15k-21k) on demand is amazing.
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Reply #5 - Nov 29th, 2016 at 4:09pm
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This may sound boring Doc but Pure human Mechanic is pretty amazing with Fury. Make sure to hit the double damage boost and twist in some +3[W] ranged strikes to cycle through with leg shot and it's all gravy. Huge hits (15k-21k) on demand is amazing.


1) human mechanic is not good now, was not good before, will not be good tommorrow

2) 15k to 21k is not impressive unless you do not understand FOTW or ranged or adrenaline, or ddo

3) haste boost far outpaces damage boost in both aspects of DPS, you frozen fish stick noob.

4) arcane archer and deep woods have the greatest number of + [w] shots to cycle through, required

5) kensei has the best crit improvement, required

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Reply #6 - Nov 29th, 2016 at 5:58pm
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[] wrote on Nov 29th, 2016 at 4:09pm:
Four arrows every time!



Oh look, the guy who didn't even know how manyshot works is trying to talk builds and game crafting again. It's like watching a retard try sign his name.
  
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Reply #7 - Nov 30th, 2016 at 1:35pm
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[] wrote on Nov 29th, 2016 at 4:09pm:
1) human mechanic is not good now, was not good before, will not be good tommorrow

2) 15k to 21k is not impressive unless you do not understand FOTW or ranged or adrenaline, or ddo

3) haste boost far outpaces damage boost in both aspects of DPS, you frozen fish stick noob.

4) arcane archer and deep woods have the greatest number of + [w] shots to cycle through, required

5) kensei has the best crit improvement, required

pull your head out of your ass before typing, optional



Ygritte is going to be totally pissed at you. She knows about ranged DPS.
  

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Reply #8 - Dec 2nd, 2016 at 5:58am
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Girls can't DDO.
  
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Reply #9 - Dec 2nd, 2016 at 3:04pm
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Difficult question. Is the question what build would result in the highest possible Adrenaline + Active attack? Or best all around platform?

Obvious must haves are:

-Slayer arrow
-Dual action boosts (Human/Helf + Ranged Power or LD boost)

That means either Human/Helf + Ranger, or Helf + Any (attaining slayer through racial AA)

Other things that are important are:

Multiplier Increases:
-14 Pally (holy sword)
-6 Fighter (Core 3)
-18 Ranger (AA Core 5) or Racial AA Core 5 (but it's not working I don't think)
-Maybe Barb? But gimps you out of 10k when you're not manyshotting.
-5 Monk (ninja spy T5), but prevents you from taking Slayer Arrow

Threat Increases:
-14 Pally (holy sword)
-6 Fighter (T5) but prevents you from taking Slayer Arrow
-12 Ranger (DWS Core 4)
-Barb (Ravager T5) but prevents you from taking Slayer Arrow

For me most Obvious choice is some Combo of Fighter and Monk + Helf or Ranger/Fighter/Monk + Helf or Human.

So then the real question becomes, Strength or Dex based? You will not have access to Divine Might, so I would lean toward Dex + KtA.

I suppose there's an option of 14 Pally/6 Monk, Str based in Fire Stance with Divine might, but not sure that's any better than other options, and requires you go Helf and Racial AA, which is fine though because really you just need 14+34 AP for Slayer in racial AA, leaving plenty of AP for defensive stuff (incorp, pally stance, etc).

If I was making a pure bow furyshot build (which I wouldn't, the power of Shuri's between Manyshot has always been more dps than a bow, and with recent multiplier fix that's incontrovertible now), I think I would go 14Pal/6Mnk, Dex based Helf with AA capstone.


  
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Reply #10 - Dec 2nd, 2016 at 3:06pm
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*for the record however feats are super tight on a 14Pal/6Mnk, for example you cannot build an adequate hybrid bow/shuri with that breakdown to my knowledge, but you might be able to do it for a bow only build
  
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Reply #11 - Dec 2nd, 2016 at 8:34pm
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harharharhar wrote on Dec 2nd, 2016 at 3:06pm:
*for the record however feats are super tight on a 14Pal/6Mnk, for example you cannot build an adequate hybrid bow/shuri with that breakdown to my knowledge, but you might be able to do it for a bow only build


I was thinking that 14pal/6mnk helf would be the way I would go if I had the time or energy to TR and level a character. No bow, obviously.
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Reply #12 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 5:02pm
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Feats are a nightmare.
  

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Reply #13 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 5:16pm
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Can break 90k on helpless on my ancient 14 pally/6monk elf wis build with uber paralyze.
Obviously can be much higher on dual boost dex or str helf.
  
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Reply #14 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 7:06pm
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Jacked up adren slayers were hitting for 144k on a slightly less than optimal build.
  
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Reply #15 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 7:40pm
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Yeah I mean the only downside of course to the always doing super huge Adren + Slayer of a bow only build using Manyshot + 10k is that the much lower relative rate of fire of not having shuriken means that over anything but the shortest dungeons, you just aren't going to regen Adrenaline nearly as fast. So the total damage over time just falls behind a lot.

Then again, if you just want to pike trash in Slavers with your friend on a Warlock and just burn down red names hard and pop chests, this would be fine.
  
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Reply #16 - Dec 3rd, 2016 at 7:46pm
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I mostly abuse myself in slavers while other people finish the quest now.
Am down to once every couple days.
  

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