My take away from the comments on the mobos is that after pitching the new difficulty mode for the last year reaper is for all intents and purposes a ginned-up version of the last couple 'epic' raids they made.

Just as legendary Tempest, HoX were the exact same quests with increased stats, so that they had end-game and new material without having to actually make the effort to design end-game or new material.

Throw in some juice in the form of buffed items and bragging rights ability buffs to get the hamster wheel rolling and boom, good to go.

By going with new trees they can give out power that players will want but in a form they can't dupe (yet) and thus insure heavy grind to serve as surrogate for new material that they just don't seem to be able to put out any more.   

Either way, I'm going to enjoy it and I'm looking forward to my lv 5 cleric with a 74 illusion DC.

FranOhmsford wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 10:26am:



Retard.

5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 2:08pm:


I stated a Pure or close to Pure Melee Sword+Board or Staff Cleric couldn't be made even barely viable right now.

Your reply was to link a 12/6/2 Multiclass RANGED character!

1) That is not in any way Pure or even close to Pure!

2) IT'S RANGED!
It's barely even a Cleric with only 12 levels and relying on AA Exploits!


As for my "preconceived notions" - Yes you could make a Cleric of anything in PnP {IF Your DM let you that is} but why is it that the two most common archetypes from PnP {M+B and Staff Wielder} are the ones DDO ignores?
OK they did give us Morninglords with Maces but we all know how weak Deity Wpn Bonuses are {until Silvanus that is}.
And really, Let's not get into the Clusterfuck that was Morninglord!

For posterity's sake.

Hag Master wrote on Jan 26^th, 2017 at 7:10pm:

FranOhmsford wrote on Jan 27^th, 2017 at 9:32am:


Drink some bleach you fucking retard.

Wipe wrote on Jan 27^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:


?

FranOhmsford wrote on Jan 27^th, 2017 at 9:32am:


Do you realize how you have no rapport with anyone and just blather on about fuck all?

Hypothesis: No thread was improved by Chai's participation.

just love how every reaper thread on mobos has turned into a free for all, shit posting fest

Can someone explain to me how this lockout can be a good thing? I just couldn't figure out yet.

Asheras wrote on Jan 28^th, 2017 at 1:08pm:



Hey! Filthy casuals don't play lama. We're people too!  Kinda.

A guildie and I took toons over on this last Lama build and ran the new Tower of Frost quest in Reaper 5 skull along with a friend who was testing a hold wizard build. The friend dropped out after the 3rd floor was done but the two of us continued on and finished it and I will say that I particularly enjoyed the new puzzle but the whole Reaper thing was underwhelming to me.

I do find that self healing nerf more annoying since that is just a reflex from playing and there is a waste of resources and I can say there are going to be way better quests to do as the shines in there are in crappy spots for when you would really need them.

Reaper will promote that old classic party role style that is more wowish or old school tactics sort of things and that is not horrible but I really din't see much of a point to it. If the reaper rewards (wings) go away at TR and you have so many quests you get locked out of at end game  really why should anyone bother much?

I looked at the new wings and they looked gay as hell to me...

After a year of Reaper being sort of touted as being so hard and grand that it appeared to be a type of true end game Turbine/SSG is failing here as this system is just a minor brag spot.

I mean I was looking forward to some of the classic heroic quests that were never epic and doing them in a challenge on epic like say Tear of Dakaan or say Water Works. But even with this new 6 level bit I can't seen taking a level 10 toon of any sort into a 10 Reaper Waterworks when your CC is likely to be Web whose duration and DC will likely not even stop a thing.

I may look at a 1 skull fixed TR train but I doubt that would be worth it given that normally I do a 1-20 life in 18-22 hours or so depending on how much we screw off. If that 120% bonus takes 3 or 4x as long I don't see the value in bothering.

Synchrono wrote on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 4:03am:


Wings go away but the vendor unlock does not, pay the plat cost to get them back.