BTW, This thread:

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/483321-628-xp-vs-5-625-000-xp

Is pure gold.  All the people who said "Too much power creep!  No reaper trees!  We only want challenge!"  All the people saying "No rewards at all.  Just the challenge"  Wizza and his stupid surveys that 80% of people don't want rewards. 

Now it's all about "How can I get my power creep?  It takes to long for me to get more power!  ".  "I can't run reaper if the rewards are so small!!   They won't give me rewards easily"

So which is it?  Do people want power creep and rewards or not? 

Lemming wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:32am:


You first.   

Frank wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 10:58am:


agree

I was totally floored when idiot people said no rewards or gear for reaper re: power creep.

I mean are you serious? Yeah running a 10skull slavers for a good time with friends a couple times to brag is great, but fucking then what?

Nothing.

Old Epics were a smash hit because they were hard and brutal but also gave you the best gear in the game. Thats why it was a success.

This whole no reward reaper tree garbage is completely insane. I don't know what the fuck anyone was thinking.

Just give us higher levels of Mythic bonuses possible to drop on reaper and be done with it.

Or make it so reaper can drop better random loot than is craftable/farmable.

Easy, done. But instead, we have this billowing dumpster fire.

harharharhar wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 1:44pm:


I agree with this.  The reaper trees were kinda unnecessary.  All they had to do was give gear upgrades.  Just learn from the S/S/S system and give out reaper tokens so that you can spend 50 to buy a gear upgrade if the drop you want doesn't show up.  Infinite grinds suck. 

Level 20 old epics worked great.  And had no character XP grind associated.  Just loot grind. 

Asheras wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 9:03am:



How would he know?

Asheras wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 2:19pm:

Theoretically.

Alternative bitching.

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Not trying to be cheerleading. 

I agree with people 100% that SSG could have done things better on Reaper.  (both in terms of design and communication). 

On design:

A)  The xp needed for the vendors is insane.

B)  The xp penalties for over level are insane.

C)  The re-run penalty is too steep on 2nd and 3rd runs.

D)  I'm not really understanding the point of the reaper trees in terms of game play.

On communication:
The trees should have been in reaper pass 2 and 3.  And that players should have had an idea of the cost of the reaper points and the grind and some access to the trees to to play test builds with partial and full reaper points.  That would have given some better opportunities.

SSG was way slow on getting that stuff out and nobody saw it in advance.  In game.  A forum post isn't the same as seeing it on Lama.

But, the forum community is almost as annoying and has some blame.

The morons who were constantly banging the drum of "no reaper.  No reaper.  It will suck and divide the player base" mixed in with all the "no rewards no rewards no rewards" crew spammed every fucking thread and made it much more difficult for anyone who was interested in reaper and wanted to have an actual conversation about the rewards and what was appropriate nearly impossible.

They were so hell bent on shitposting everything that it is hard to get SSG's attention on anything.
 
When I blast the morons who are shitpost spamming (like Wizza.  Total dipshit.) it looks like I'm cheerleading or defending SSG or something.  But that's not it at all.  It is possible to be frustrated with both sides.  And right now, there are some really dumbass forum posters out there. 

noamineo wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 3:20pm:


I agree with you 100%.  I am not a fan of infinite grind.  It was the one fatal flaw of the S/S/S system.

Frank wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2017 at 10:58am:


They put the xp gate high coz they have no fucking clue what to put in the shops so they can gain some time before anybody spots the empty shelves 

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I agree it is going to divide the player base.  I think I have said that and agreed with that before.  But, once we all agree that this is going to happen and SSG has said that challenge is more importand and is moving forward with Reaper and it's coming, why is that a valid issue to spam 100 times a day in threads about reaper rewards and reaper XP and reaper difficulty level?  Isn't it just noise at this point?