Already levelling one.

Heightened soundburst spell for CC. Soundburst SLA from EA is not as good.

Sunburst spell (DD core 5/6) for Permablind that you want.

If you want Evocation to matter, you'll have to get 41 AP in DD for the capstone.

If you want your Healing to matter then you'll need 32 AP in RS for Aura. This has a nice side effect of amping your selfhealing.

7 AP left to spare. Not enough to bother with AA tree and/or Paralyzing stuff. Unless you absolutely want to build around it. Then it won't be an evoker Cleric tho.

Ideal race is Deep gnome, but requires a +1 heart

Turn undead has been useless since before even MoTu.

Alex DeLarge wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 1:32am:


Yes.  And other CC options to also keep in mind are Greater Command and Cometfall, Power Word: Stun, and, in a few cases, Hold Person.

Oh, and I hear nice things about Burst of Glacial Wrath and Dire Charge; haven't tried them yet myself.

Alex DeLarge wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 1:32am:


Personally not that much of a fan of the aura.  I mean, it's fine, sure, but not at the cost dropping that many points in RS, or of locking out other T5s.  Even less so in Reaper where I'm not planning to be in aura-range of the people who actually need the healing.

Alex DeLarge wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 1:32am:


This is a reaper life from level 1 (non-iconic) onward. Is Turn still useless at levels 1-10? 1-5? I have a static group together of pretty great people, and I nominated myself to be the healbot/cleric.

For non-iconic, I'm probably going to be going human for the bonus feat. I'm not worried about spell penetration at all (several wiz/sorc past lives) until deeper into the lategame.

The perma-blind shows up at level 18. CC before then will be much harder, I'd imagine, but from what I'm looking at spell-wise I think I can manage.

Thanks for the help so far, you and everyone else has been super helpful.

SirValentine wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 11:53am:


Do you build enchantment school just for this spell alone for endgame?



SirValentine wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 9:59am:


The main reason for me is that Aura is the staple of Clerics.
And it is my belief that both Radiant burst and Radiant Aura should have been Auto-grant class spell at levels 6 and 12 respectively.

Alex DeLarge wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 12:47pm:


I have no special build focus given to Enchantment, just lots of focus on Wisdom.  For gear, Slaver's Spell Focus gives +6 to every school, and the Legendary Mutilator of Minds gives +4 Insightful to Enchantment, plus +2 Quality to every school.

The thing is, mob Will saves are often much lower than their Fort saves, and a mass CC against a large group of monsters is still useful even if it only hits, say, 75% of the them.

Also, Greater Command is not only Enchantment spell to use.  Hold Person, preceded by an Energy Drain, is great for those pesky deathblocked Orange-named mobs (if they are the "person" type, of course).  And Symbols of Persuasion or Stunning have situational uses.

I wouldn't build an Enchantment-spec divine, because the options are fairly narrow, but they still are useful options.

Alex DeLarge wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 12:47pm:


I wouldn't go as far as an auto-grant, but I think the suggestion I've seen that it should be the level 12 core in RS instead of a Tier 5 is reasonable.  I used to use the aura under the old enhancement system, when any level 12 Cleric could get it without locking themselves out of other useful class enhancements.

Alex DeLarge wrote on Feb 21^st, 2017 at 12:48pm:


Sure.  My personal build is Necro, rather than OP's planned Evo, but general idea is the same.

DD:  41 points, including Tier 5s & capstone.  Includes both DC boosts, both Wis boosts, Spell Pen, and random other misc crap to fill it out.  I go Dark, Evo would go Light.

WP:  12 points.  10 PRR, +1 Wis, a little bit of other stuff like hit points or Search.  (Not important, but I love it when I can find traps some Rogue can't.  Having a 114 Search on a pure Cleric is fun!  It's mostly just gear, but still.)

RS:  13+ points.  Radiant Burst & +1 Wis account for 13.  Divine Healing.  A bit of other junk.  I think I currently ended up around 15 total, instead of 13 on the nose.

Deep Gnome Racial:  6+ points.  +2 Wis for 6, other stuff to taste; lots of decent options here, actually.  Can shift a few points back to RS if you really want to, but there isn't enough to get another +1 Wis.  Think I currently end up with 12 in Racial.

When I was Human on a previous life, it was 22-24 RS (getting both Wis bumps takes 22), with 3-5 in Human (+1 Wis takes 3)

EDIT as of U35:

Once you have at least 1 Racial AP, as a Deep Gnome you can squeeze out 1 more Wis enhancement by going 41/22/12/6.

Or on a Half-Elf, if you have at least 7 Racial AP, 41/22/12/12 gives you +1 Wis over Human, though down a feat.