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Re: U35 Release Notes - Racial Reincarnation
Reply #100 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 4:06pm
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Betting it's a typo. I think the +1 Racial Action point should actually be +1 Racial Ability point based off of the list below.
  
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Reply #101 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 4:08pm
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"Items are preserved in inventory during a Racial Reincarnation, instead of being placed in your TR Cache."

Soooooo, does the TR cache remain or do we have to empty that for racial reincarnation?
  

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Reply #102 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 4:11pm
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RolyPoly wrote on Mar 7th, 2017 at 4:06pm:
Betting it's a typo. I think the +1 Racial Action point should actually be +1 Racial Ability point based off of the list below.

The way that read, 1st racial, you get what is the first bit before the comma, so +2 skill.  2nd reincarnation +1 attribute. 3rd reincarnation is action point.  And by third, has to be 3rd for that race, not third overall.  At least the way I read it.
  

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Reply #103 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 4:13pm
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Reply #104 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 4:21pm
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Sailias wrote on Mar 7th, 2017 at 4:13pm:
One Heart is 20 Tokens of the Twelve Smiley

Ho ho!  You fools!   Grin
  

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Re: U35 Release Notes - Racial Reincarnation
Reply #105 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 4:33pm
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RolyPoly wrote on Mar 7th, 2017 at 4:06pm:
Betting it's a typo. I think the +1 Racial Action point should actually be +1 Racial Ability point based off of the list below.

I think they're called Affirmative Action points.
  

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Reply #106 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 4:36pm
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Revaulting wrote on Mar 7th, 2017 at 4:33pm:
I think they're called Affirmative Action points.



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Reply #107 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 4:38pm
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no. wrote on Mar 6th, 2017 at 2:25pm:
I disagree. To a new player, a self healing reasonably high defense cleric is one of the best character options.  New players aren't doing Reaper.  A heavy mace will get them through normal or hard, probably even elite.

Ugh...    To a new player, chugging the freely dropping starter potions is far better than having a near zero dps and being able to cast cure light wounds.

no. wrote on Mar 6th, 2017 at 2:25pm:
Context matters.


Yes, like the context where dps matters and a first life cleric isn't doing any of it.  Seriously, take a first life cleric through Heyton's Rest (the very first quest in the game, for those who aren't keeping score) and try to do the optionals.  You will fail.  Then run the same quest with a first life Sorc.  You will succeed.  I'll wait here while you learn just how fucked up the cleric being listed as "very strong" is when the sorc is listed as "challenging."  The exact opposite is the reality.
  

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Re: U35 Release Notes - Racial Reincarnation
Reply #108 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 4:59pm
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Given that racial reincarnation is the same grind as a heroic true, I don't understand why the abilities aren't as good.

Where's racial completionist?
  
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Reply #109 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 5:04pm
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harharharhar wrote on Mar 7th, 2017 at 4:59pm:
Where's racial completionist?

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Reply #110 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 5:05pm
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Dwarven Hands of Stone's DC is now 10 + Character Level + Constitution modifier + Transmutation Bonuses


Transmutation bonuses..  lol

If you want a good laugh look at the Archmage Transmutation cores..  RoFLOL
  
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Re: U35 Release Notes - Racial Reincarnation
Reply #111 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 5:05pm
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I will say 10 racial AP is AMAZING. Hello new thrower builds
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Reply #112 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 5:07pm
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harharharhar wrote on Mar 7th, 2017 at 5:05pm:
I will say 10 racial AP is AMAZING. Hello new thrower builds


I wouldn't get too excited until you log on and check Sobby, I'm guessing it's 1 point for specific tree, like 3xelf lives gets you 1 point to spend in the elf tree.

  
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Reply #113 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 5:07pm
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Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2017 at 4:38pm:
Ugh...    To a new player, chugging the freely dropping starter potions is far better than having a near zero dps and being able to cast cure light wounds.


Yes, like the context where dps matters and a first life cleric isn't doing any of it.  Seriously, take a first life cleric through Heyton's Rest (the very first quest in the game, for those who aren't keeping score) and try to do the optionals.  You will fail.  Then run the same quest with a first life Sorc.  You will succeed.  I'll wait here while you learn just how fucked up the cleric being listed as "very strong" is when the sorc is listed as "challenging."  The exact opposite is the reality.


Having anyone here do your test is pointless.  Unless they can forget how to create a character properly and forget how to play the game.  You are assuming the following of new players:

1)  they understand that you min/max charisma and con and dump the rest.  It took me 3 characters to figure out that DDO doesn't care about more than 2 stats on most builds.  3 at max. 
2)  that they know what spell is the best choice
3)  that they won't waste the feat slot choice
4)  that they know how to target
5)  that they know how to kite
6)  that they know how to move, period.  Or that they can even move while casting.  Let alone jump.
7)  that they know what to focus on when in a quest.  What is important, what is not.  breaking caskets, opening the lame chests, fighting the mobs, etc. etc.
8)  and on and on.

You just aren't getting it.  You are too stuck in your own personal frame of reference. 

You run through a dungeon and don't even see 75% of it. Because you have run it 100's of times and know exactly where to go and what matters.  Everything else is so filtered out it doesn't register. 

Because of all of this not defense is most important.  Because it buys you time and when new you don't do ANYTHING fast. 

You don't care about defenses because you are fast.  Because nothing hits you.  You kill it before it gets a hit in.  You dodge or time traps.  You use geometry and obstacles.  None of that is happening with the first timer.

Newsflash:  first timers die.  A lot.  even with a "good" solo build.  You may not die an entire TR from 1-20.  Not once.  I'd say I average less than 3 deaths per life (before reaper mode).  Most brand new players die more times just getting flagged for The collaborator.  On normal.  Yes.  People die on normal. 
  
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Re: U35 Release Notes - Racial Reincarnation
Reply #114 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 5:07pm
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Grand wrote on Mar 7th, 2017 at 5:05pm:
Transmutation bonuses..  lol

If you want a good laugh look at the Archmage Transmutation cores..  RoFLOL


Yeah but dude look at the DC.

If you're a con based Dwarf build, you're at 70 DC BEFORE any Transmutation Bonuses with like 70 Con.
  
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Reply #115 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 5:10pm
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"Items are preserved in inventory during a Racial Reincarnation, instead of being placed in your TR Cache."

How this shit works?

you do a racial incarnation at 20 and go back to lvl 1 with all the shit in your inventory?
  

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Reply #116 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 5:11pm
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harharharhar wrote on Mar 7th, 2017 at 5:07pm:
Yeah but dude look at the DC.

If you're a con based Dwarf build, you're at 70 DC BEFORE any Transmutation Bonuses with like 70 Con.



Hey I hear you, I used to love stumpys and the changes will help them but I'll advise you that hands of stone is a suck. I've tested it running way overlevel dwarfs running around and even when the mobs failed it turned out that HoS was really underwhelming, the helpless damage takes forever to kick in and the small number of charges makes it way too expensive even if it's working for the limited uses.

Sad.

The changes to being able to get dwarven fortress bonuses while throwing is sweet, shame it has to be shuriken.
  
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Re: U35 Release Notes - Racial Reincarnation
Reply #117 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 5:12pm
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Well, Devs have spoken and demonstrated their complete incompetence again.

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Known Issues:
Racial Reincarnation
  • Racial Reincarnation currently grants the +Skill feat associated with the race each time you reincarnate instead of granting the +Ability Score feat the second time and then the +Racial AP feat the third time.
  • Racial Reincarnation currently preserves items in your inventory and does not create a TR Cache. (Meant to mimic a Heroic True but currently mimics a Lesser)
  • Racial Reincarnation does not currently increment your Ability Score available at character creation as it is intended to. (Meant to mimic a Heroic True but currently mimics a Lesser)

Dragonborn
  • In order to create a Dragonborn you must either be a VIP or purchase BOTH the Dragonborn race AND the Gnome race from the DDO store.
  • Base Draconic Ancestry Feats always grant only 1 elemental resistance instead of 1 per character level as described.
  • All of the Draconic Ancestry Feats share the Drow Spell Resistance feat icon.
  • Memory of Flight tree tooltip lists "Phantasmal Killer" description as if it were providing a Phantasmal Killer SLA.
  • Memory of Flight currently costs Spell Points. It should not have a Spell Point cost.
  • Dragonborn use the human icon in both the Who tab of the social menu and in their Enhancement tree.
  • Dragonborn characters have no personal focus orb image.
  • Dragonborn selected focus orb image is a kobold.
  • A small portion of armors have pieces which visually flow in and out with character breathe on a male dragonborn while the other pieces of the armor remain static causing noticeable clipping.
  • Bolts fired out of a crossbow by dragonborn (both male and female) originate below the crossbow itself.
  • Some pre-built character paths are not currently working with Dragonborn.
  • Attempting to purchase Character Bank capacity upgrades for Platinum does nothing even if you have the requisite House Kundarak Favor.

Quests
  • The two new quests have no entry waypoints out of the quests.
  • Some monsters are dropping treasure bags that can not be interacted with.
  • Some Dragons are missing a breathe attack.


Steelstar:
The Racial AP awarded are accumulated. Presently, after 30 Racial Past Lives, you could have 10 to use in whatever Racial tree you currently have.
  
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Reply #118 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 5:15pm
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RolyPoly wrote on Mar 7th, 2017 at 5:12pm:
Well, Devs have spoken and demonstrated their complete incompetence again.

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Known Issues:
Racial Reincarnation
  • Racial Reincarnation currently grants the +Skill feat associated with the race each time you reincarnate instead of granting the +Ability Score feat the second time and then the +Racial AP feat the third time.
  • Racial Reincarnation currently preserves items in your inventory and does not create a TR Cache. (Meant to mimic a Heroic True but currently mimics a Lesser)
  • Racial Reincarnation does not currently increment your Ability Score available at character creation as it is intended to. (Meant to mimic a Heroic True but currently mimics a Lesser)

Dragonborn
  • In order to create a Dragonborn you must either be a VIP or purchase BOTH the Dragonborn race AND the Gnome race from the DDO store.
  • Base Draconic Ancestry Feats always grant only 1 elemental resistance instead of 1 per character level as described.
  • All of the Draconic Ancestry Feats share the Drow Spell Resistance feat icon.
  • Memory of Flight tree tooltip lists "Phantasmal Killer" description as if it were providing a Phantasmal Killer SLA.
  • Memory of Flight currently costs Spell Points. It should not have a Spell Point cost.
  • Dragonborn use the human icon in both the Who tab of the social menu and in their Enhancement tree.
  • Dragonborn characters have no personal focus orb image.
  • Dragonborn selected focus orb image is a kobold.
  • A small portion of armors have pieces which visually flow in and out with character breathe on a male dragonborn while the other pieces of the armor remain static causing noticeable clipping.
  • Bolts fired out of a crossbow by dragonborn (both male and female) originate below the crossbow itself.
  • Some pre-built character paths are not currently working with Dragonborn.
  • Attempting to purchase Character Bank capacity upgrades for Platinum does nothing even if you have the requisite House Kundarak Favor.

Quests
  • The two new quests have no entry waypoints out of the quests.
  • Some monsters are dropping treasure bags that can not be interacted with.
  • Some Dragons are missing a breathe attack.





Did they only start working on this like last week?  Grin
  
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Reply #119 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 5:16pm
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RolyPoly wrote on Mar 7th, 2017 at 5:12pm:
Steelstar:
The Racial AP awarded are accumulated. Presently, after 30 Racial Past Lives, you could have 10 to use in whatever Racial tree you currently have.



This is so cool you just know they will have to nerf it. Think of all the fucking amazing wild ass new builds this would create!
  
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Reply #120 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 5:16pm
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I don’t hate it.  The grind appears to be just 1-20, and we have to choose between a class or a race PL feat.  So, if you go all the way to 30, you should get 2 PL feats out of the deal.  (Class + Epic; Heroic Race + Epic; Iconic + Class)  Capping out all 30 is a hell of a boost.
  

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Reply #121 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 6:48pm
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If they can get it to work it will be pretty huge.

I will moderate that with the observation that adding another +2 to all stats isn't all that big of a deal in light of the loot changes in the last couple years. Abilities buffs at all levels have gotten so much higher that it's not biggy.

When completionist first came out that shit was so huge and so worth it.

Now the 10 points of racial? that's huge.
  
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Reply #122 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 6:49pm
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Grand wrote on Mar 7th, 2017 at 5:07pm:
I wouldn't get too excited until you log on and check Sobby, I'm guessing it's 1 point for specific tree, like 3xelf lives gets you 1 point to spend in the elf tree.



I see you've corrected your earlier ignorance.

Good Bland
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Reply #123 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 7:15pm
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6 more points of INT, im on my way to 120 INT Smiley
  
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Reply #124 - Mar 7th, 2017 at 7:17pm
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harharharhar wrote on Mar 7th, 2017 at 6:49pm:
I see you've corrected your earlier ignorance.

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Yeah, that'll be the day. How's that special forum working out for you Sobby?
  
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