Grand wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 3:07pm:


says the guy constantly posting weird trolly shit that's not relevant to the game in any way and full of self-important hot air

harharharhar wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 3:29pm:


Hey you can go vote to get me to chone now Sobby, meanwhile it's funny to hear you call me 'self-important'  you are the guy constantly trying to take credit for other people's ideas and constantly shilling your own old ideas here and on the Mobos, while trying to discredit anyone else's ideas that are similar to yours.  LOL

Lelouch wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:


Go on Lamma and show for everyone how the fighter splash is better, than. In the mean time there are all these good players disagreeing with you. Dude posted both math and recorded results, and they match, while you did nothing, you do not bring any argument, only your fucking word, that isn't worth much. Meanwhile, the majority of endgame players who use monkchers are doing without fighter, but wait, Overvan is better than all of them and he's right and they're wrong, because... he said so! Ignore the math, ignore the tests, ignore everyone contradicting, listen to Overvan!!

Hell, I was reading the mobo thread and even Jak gave up on this and he said "the results are conclusive".

You said the guy missed multiple times an adrenaline, but why is it so hard to point them out, if they're so obvious?

I've not found any, except the one you posted, that doesn't seem he missed because in no videos he started with sniper shot, except on these furyshot test, it really looks like he was prepping the mob to a furyshot, or for some other reason. At the end of that one and a couple other videos I found that he didn't combo it well, but it doesn't matter because it is at the end and the time is unnafected (the kolbold dies on the shot anyways, with or without adren, in fact that's probably the reason why he didn't do it: because it would take more time actually).

That is all you have "shown" us. And the other link you gave none of them are missed. I am seriously beliving you are doing some kind of drug, because the pixels you claim to see are different from the pixels I'm seeing.


How do you know he doesn't have proper gear? Did you ask him? He said he was missing the set in the forums. That's it, the rest seem to be very ok. He opens sheet in some videos and it's at 84 dex. Those 20 ranged power from set would not make the fighter build better.

Final Strike. Just LOL. Do you really think that would bring the fighter build ahead?

Vaultaccount wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:


In the video VaultAccount highlights with the 8/6/6 split is he only using sniper shot?  Would it not be a faster time with Arrow of Slaying in the build as well? 

It looks like in the 14/6 splits he uses Sniper and Arrow of Slaying, but only uses Sniper shot in the 8/6/6 builds?  Is this accurate or did I miss it?

If that is true wouldn't Arrow of Slaying benefit the 8/6/6 splits as well?

Vaultaccount wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 1:12pm:



On this video (max furyshot 8/6/6 he clearly wastes at least 2 sniper shots (mistiming) and doesn't hit 10k at the end and still ends up with a 37 seconds. That could have been a 30 second time if he did it right.

Starting at 36 seconds in the video, he has 10k, Sniper shot and Adren off cooldown, and proceeds to:

Sniper - waste
Adrenaline - waste
10k - need I say more


This is poorly executed, Lelouch is absolutely right.

harharharhar wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 11:15pm:

He does miss a sniper adrenaline earlier than 36 seconds.
He doesn't miss one after 36 seconds - it looks like he should but you can see the damage registered correctly if you pay close enough attention.

10k stars is certainly improperly used - though you saying it could have been a 30 second time is laughable ->
manyshot puts 10k stars on a 30 second cooldown. So if you say that he could have gotten a 30 second time by using 10k stars -> 10k stars wouldn't have contributed at all -> ergo what you are saying is false.

Once again jakass proves he doesn't know what he's talking about.

harharharhar wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 11:15pm:


He is absolutely wrong. He missed one sniper shot at the end where he does all wrong, but taht's 3 seconds before the end. In the best case you would have a 33 seconds video. The Sniper Shot at the start was cearly not missed, he's always starting with Arrow of Slaying, and only when using the epic moment he did that sniper shot at the start without adrenalines, so clearly that was intentional to not make things biased.

If he actually used adrenaline with that sniper shot at the start, than it would be biased, and it would be to the side of the fighter splash. If you were a good player with capacity to analyze details, you would notice that, but you're more casual than you think, incapable of understanding someone else meta, you just see what's on top of your head.

Keep on with this bullshit. Ledouche is right, everyone else is wrong. Shavara is wrong, Ellihor is wrong, all the other guys are wrong. Just you and Ledouche buy this talk that the fighter splash is better, yet you do not provide nor math nor tested results to work as a base for your exceptional claims.

Exceptional claims need exceptional evidence to be taken seriously. You do the opposite: you give nothing. While there is evidence telling the contrary. I don't know why do you think anyone takes you seriously.

SO I re-did my 20 Ranger archer and made him a Helf 14Mnk/6Rngr thrower (primary)/Bow archer (secondary).

Have approx. 475 Force Spellpower and 490 Electric Spellpower (still working on both) and realized the AA Electric imbue doesn't apply when throwing.

Do the elemental imbues not apply to throwing weapons like shuriken? It appears my Force imbue does.

What gives?

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Toke wrote on Mar 15^th, 2017 at 5:02pm:

Oh. I guess I will try that.

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