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How long till they nerf race trees?
Mar 17th, 2017 at 1:09pm
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My Drow is amazing with the darkfire fully meta'd every 6 seconds. Not sure how it will be past lv 20 but 2-17 it was friggen unbelievable. I'm thinking about trying to make a new one with a ton of tank and all the metas. Maybe pally or lock.
  
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Re: How long till they nerf race trees?
Reply #1 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:34pm
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nerf to Darkfire already stated as a thing
  
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Reply #2 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 3:47pm
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For real? They haven't even released the update yet
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 3:49pm
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Not only this but its actually only mildly op at cap.

I'd wager it will be nerfed and then drow will become extinct with exception of people on tr cycle.
  
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Reply #4 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 4:05pm
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harharharhar wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 2:34pm:
nerf to Darkfire already stated as a thing



Where? was it a developer or a player complaining?
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 5:42pm
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Where? was it a developer or a player complaining?

cordo statement on mobo
  
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Re: How long till they nerf race trees?
Reply #6 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 6:38pm
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For the record, Cordo didn't actually say Darkfire was definitely going to be nerfed. He implied it very well could be, though...enough that I'm not going to bother with getting used to having it.
  
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Re: How long till they nerf race trees?
Reply #7 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 9:07pm
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Before people start with the DOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoMmMmMmMm!!!!

There are a lot of ways Darkfire could be nerfed:
  • Increase SP cost
  • Reduce the damage
  • Give it a save with a low DC
  • Increase cool-down time
  • Remove Meta Magic Functionality
  • Make it counter-able
  • Make it use Action Boosts/ Limited per Rest uses
  • Just make it like it was before

I will wait and see, I think this is way down the list of priorities for fixes.

I doubt the servers will be jammed full of Drow over this one ability.

Unless it's a super-easy fix, or people start enjoying Drow again (Perish the thought for a p2p race...)

In which case the Devs will terminate it with extreme prejudice.
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Reply #8 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 5:21am
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Metal-Beast wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
Before people start with the DOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoMmMmMmMm!!!!

There are a lot of ways Darkfire could be nerfed:
  • Increase SP cost
  • Reduce the damage
  • Give it a save with a low DC
  • Increase cool-down time
  • Remove Meta Magic Functionality
  • Make it counter-able
  • Make it use Action Boosts/ Limited per Rest uses
  • Just make it like it was before

I will wait and see, I think this is way down the list of priorities for fixes.

I doubt the servers will be jammed full of Drow over this one ability.

Unless it's a super-easy fix, or people start enjoying Drow again (Perish the thought for a p2p race...)

In which case the Devs will terminate it with extreme prejudice.



Good advice. With that in mind I did two more Drow lives this weekend. I hope they don't nerf it because it's a really fun race right now. But I don't think it's OP because my TWF and other DPS builds were still more powerful.  Quicken and Max really helped it
  
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Reply #9 - Mar 28th, 2017 at 6:45pm
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Darkfire just went Poof!
  
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Reply #10 - Mar 28th, 2017 at 8:42pm
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It's a shame, another win for whiners.  I played it and because of the single target nature it wasn't OP at all. Halving the damage makes Drow noncompetitive now, I'm glad I got my Drowish lives out of the way.
  
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Re: How long till they nerf race trees?
Reply #11 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 1:08am
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dmg scaled down to 1d6, only 1 projectile, and 100% spellpower instead of 150%

"Drow's Darkfire has been adjusted as follows: It only fires one missile, has a Base Damage of 1d6 per character level, with no max caster level, has its damage scale at 100% spell power, costs 5 spell points instead of Action Boost charges, and has a six second cooldown."
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Re: How long till they nerf race trees?
Reply #12 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 2:57am
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Cinagro wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 1:08am:
dmg scaled down to 1d6, only 1 projectile, and 100% spellpower instead of 150%

"Drow's Darkfire has been adjusted as follows: It only fires one missile, has a Base Damage of 1d6 per character level, with no max caster level, has its damage scale at 100% spell power, costs 5 spell points instead of Action Boost charges, and has a six second cooldown."


someone calculated it to be only 1/7 of the previous damage.
So much for that buff, buh-bye.
  
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Reply #13 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 4:29am
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 2:57am:
someone calculated it to be only 1/7 of the previous damage.
So much for that buff, buh-bye.



I saw that as well, some pretty fantastic number crunching and extrapolating by the posters. I'm sure that SSG was aware of that when they made the change, it may seem a bit heavy handed but It's safe to say they would have a wider view of it's impact on the game as a whole then we all would. Especially in that we are down in the weeds and tend to view it from a personal stand point. Like my own feelings that it wasn't OP, I may have felt that way but most likely I was being biased and trying to convince myself. They could easily make a case that if it wasn't an OP buff than the number of people complaining about it being nerfed would be much smaller. 
  
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Re: How long till they nerf race trees?
Reply #14 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 5:58am
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It's safe to say they would have a wider view of it's impact on the game as a whole then we all would.


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Re: How long till they nerf race trees?
Reply #15 - Mar 30th, 2017 at 5:49am
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I saw that as well, some pretty fantastic number crunching and extrapolating by the posters. I'm sure that SSG was aware of that when they made the change


If SSG was aware of anything, they wouldn't have released a 6 second cool-down Ruin for Drow in the first place.

Nor nerfed it back into oblivion also without bothering to actually run some numbers.
  
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