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Full Retard - U36 BE
Jun 8th, 2017 at 1:05am
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Time for us to work this out.  Go full retard on fusilade and boosts.

12Arty/6Fighter/2Barb
Dragonborn or Horc gets 3 more boosts but going Drow or Deep Gnome for the upcoming changes to SR is an option.  Drow also gets -ASF if you plan to use heavy armor.

12 Arty gets core 4, tier 5, 3 feats, either tensers, align or silver weapons, fusilade
6 Ftr gets 4 feats, 3 boosts, +1 crit multiplier
2 Barb gets 3 boosts, possible sprint boost

20 Total Boosts, 23 with racial
5 base + 1 ship + 3 BE + 3 LD + 3 Barb + 3 Ftr + 2 Necklace

Great Xbow
14-18 x3, 19-20 x5

LD, Cocoon, some combo of prism>double rainbow, pin, ottos, sense, grim, meld, consecration.

Enhancements:
~36 BE
11+ Kensai, boosts, crit
8 Barb(9 for sprint)
7 Harper KTA
18 racial, defender, or more harper
Plus racial earned

14 Feats
Point Blank, Precise, Imp. Precise, Focus, Spec, Imp. Crit, Rapid, Dodge, Mobility, Sotr, Completionist, Insightful Reflexes, Precision, 1 optional

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Re: Full Retard - U36 BE
Reply #1 - Jun 8th, 2017 at 7:49am
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22 AP for Fusilade.
So lvl 6 @ earliest.

Dragonborn and Horc are pretty tall, which becomes a problem for IPS IMO. Depends if you want an ETR. Dragonborn rune arms were fubar on release, and I don't know if that was fixed when they patched some of the animations.



  

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Re: Full Retard - U36 BE
Reply #2 - Jun 8th, 2017 at 11:55am
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So,

It seems like your excitement about Fusillade is causing you to ignore what makes great Xbows good and not terrible: Tier 5 in Mechanic.

Tier 5 Mechanic (great xbow, not 18-20 Rogue)

Buffs:
+14 Damage
+8 SA Dice (tho I think it's bugged and you get more)
19-20 Vorpal (huge depending on effects slotted/equipped)
+2[W]
20 Ranged Power
10% Doubleshot
30% Alacrity
18-20 Rogue: Massive +2 Crit Multiplier to Great Xbows

Artificer BE:
+7 or +8 Damage based on Cores/Arty Levels
Fusillade (Probably similar or a little better than 30% permanent Alacrity)
+1 Crit Threat
+10% Doubleshot

I would go so far as to argue Great Xbows are a terrible fucking choice for ANY build that does not have a minimum of 18 Rogue levels. In my mind, a multiclass of Arty or Rogue screams for Heavy or Light Repeater (Race-dependent) and not Great Xbow. If you want to use a GxB you are leaving too much on the table not being 18 Rogue.


This may be an unpopular view with some, but at least meta-gaming the build it seems like a very weak choice to skip Tier 5 Mechanic.

I would argue the real power in BE is Fusillade at Tier 4, and that you can do far better spending AP in a different tree and character levels in different classes. Fusillade is great, but it's only Tier 4, and only requires for Arty levels. It's hardly justification for Tier 5 Arty or more than 4 arty levels, which is a still a pretty shitty class.

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Re: Full Retard - U36 BE
Reply #3 - Jun 8th, 2017 at 12:04pm
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So some possibilities to try and make synergy for Great Xbow -
Platform for gXbow
5 Rogue/6Fighter/4 Arty

Tier 5 Mech (39 AP) All the Goodies except +2 Multi
Tier 4 BE (22 AP) Fussilade
Tier 3 Kensei (11 AP) +1 Crit Multi, Boosts
Tier 2 Harper (8 AP) KTA
80 AP (if you have 10 Racial there's a lot of good things in different trees)

You don't have crit threat bonus, and you only have +1 multi instead of +2, but with 30% alacrity and fussilade you will truly be a Gatling gun and your damage per bolt will be much higher than a non rogue splash arty with a great xbow, I think.
  
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Reply #4 - Jun 8th, 2017 at 12:12pm
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For a repeater build, I would think something like:

6 Fighter/5Arty/9Ranger
Ranger gets you evasion, feats, and possbile bow swap if you wanted it.
It also gets your DWS and Imbues

Kensei (11AP) +1 Crit Multi, Boosts
Arty (22 AP) Fussilade
DWS (38 AP) Sniper Shot, Evasion, 20% DS from Killer, 20% DS from Tier 5, +5 Damage Tier 5, 30RP on Rednames, 5RP passive, 3 SA Dice, Merciful Shot, Head Shot, etc
Harper (8AP)KTA
80 AP

One thing about the combo of Fussilade and Reapter that I like the sound of is recharging Adrenalines. So a build to exploit that could be quite strong as well (would probably need slayer arrow included)


  
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Reply #5 - Jun 8th, 2017 at 2:13pm
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harharharhar wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 12:12pm:
For a repeater build, I would think something like:

6 Fighter/5Arty/9Ranger
Ranger gets you evasion, feats, and possbile bow swap if you wanted it.
It also gets your DWS and Imbues

Kensei (11AP) +1 Crit Multi, Boosts
Arty (22 AP) Fussilade
DWS (38 AP) Sniper Shot, Evasion, 20% DS from Killer, 20% DS from Tier 5, +5 Damage Tier 5, 30RP on Rednames, 5RP passive, 3 SA Dice, Merciful Shot, Head Shot, etc
Harper (8AP)KTA
80 AP

One thing about the combo of Fussilade and Reapter that I like the sound of is recharging Adrenalines. So a build to exploit that could be quite strong as well (would probably need slayer arrow included)



A while back, I tried running a repeater build in FotW and it was pretty disappointing.  Adrenalines seemed to be *weird*.  It's almost as though the adrenaline bonuses didn't apply to all 3 bolts from a repeater.  I believe I was running a ranger/rogue/x build.   I was using Sniper Shot instead of Slaying Arrow, so maybe the weirdness was with Sniper Shot + repeaters rather than Adrenaline + repeaters?

It's been a while though and the build for a PL so it definitely wasn't optimal.  Might be a good idea if someone can test it and confirm or deny though.   I currently don't have any xbow/repeater toons at epic levels.
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Re: Full Retard - U36 BE
Reply #6 - Jun 8th, 2017 at 7:07pm
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harharharhar wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 11:55am:
This may be an unpopular view with some, but at least meta-gaming the build it seems like a very weak choice to skip Tier 5 Mechanic.

I would argue the real power in BE is Fusillade at Tier 4

Agree. Except for the idea that this view might be unpopular. The BE changes only reinforce the strength of going 4 Arti.

GxBow advice is correct, too. Though overstated. It's a fucking terrible choice until Tier 5 Mechanic, after which, it's only a relatively poor choice until 18 Rogue.


Digimonk wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 2:13pm:
It's almost as though the adrenaline bonuses didn't apply to all 3 bolts from a repeater.

I haven't tested thoroughly, but my play experience reinforces this idea. Going from memory, so the most recent update might have changed this, but most if not all clicky attacks seem only to apply to the first bolt.
  

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Reply #7 - Jun 8th, 2017 at 10:35pm
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Hey I was just getting the topic started in the builds section not saying I had the best ideas.

Fusilade is 24 aps due to needing tier IV of damage.  This makes rogue 5(which I looked at) only have 6 points for harper.  Then you would have to compare the Rogue benefits to what you spend the aps on in other builds.

Tier V arty gets 20 ranged power so that is a push.  10% speed too.

You lose the 30% alacrity but someone would need to test how much it really is during fusilade anyway.  I don't know if that is a true 30% or the normal .64 ranged speed modifier(from mine and Mr.Cow tests from 2010).

Again not saying it it better just adding some info.
  
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Reply #8 - Jun 8th, 2017 at 11:44pm
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Revaulting wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 7:07pm:
GxBow advice is correct, too. Though overstated. It's a fucking terrible choice until Tier 5 Mechanic, after which, it's only a relatively poor choice until 18 Rogue.


Overstated? You literally just rewrote what I said in my OP.

harharharhar wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 11:55am:
I would go so far as to argue Great Xbows are a terrible fucking choice for ANY build that does not have a minimum of 18 Rogue levels.


Unless I'm not understanding and you're saying GxB is ok'ish without Rogue 18 but having T5 Mechanic. If that's the case, to that I say, "meh"
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Reply #9 - Jun 8th, 2017 at 11:45pm
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Trollero wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 10:35pm:
Hey I was just getting the topic started in the builds section not saying I had the best ideas.

Fusilade is 24 aps due to needing tier IV of damage.  This makes rogue 5(which I looked at) only have 6 points for harper.  Then you would have to compare the Rogue benefits to what you spend the aps on in other builds.

Tier V arty gets 20 ranged power so that is a push.  10% speed too.

You lose the 30% alacrity but someone would need to test how much it really is during fusilade anyway.  I don't know if that is a true 30% or the normal .64 ranged speed modifier(from mine and Mr.Cow tests from 2010).

Again not saying it it better just adding some info.


Yeah but it's the 30% speed, the bajillion SA dice, and the 12 or so extra base damage. At Rogue 18, it's the crit multi and the 2W.

I hear you that the speed is probably not the stated speed, but it's still going to relatively be 3x the boost of 10%.
  
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Digimonk wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 2:13pm:
A while back, I tried running a repeater build in FotW and it was pretty disappointing.  Adrenalines seemed to be *weird*.  It's almost as though the adrenaline bonuses didn't apply to all 3 bolts from a repeater.  I believe I was running a ranger/rogue/x build.   I was using Sniper Shot instead of Slaying Arrow, so maybe the weirdness was with Sniper Shot + repeaters rather than Adrenaline + repeaters?

It's been a while though and the build for a PL so it definitely wasn't optimal.  Might be a good idea if someone can test it and confirm or deny though.   I currently don't have any xbow/repeater toons at epic levels.


All of this may be so, I havent tested it recently either.
  
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Reply #11 - Jun 9th, 2017 at 3:31am
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Sniper Shot, 11 AP
Fusilade, 22 AP
Fighter Multi, 11 AP

6 ranger / 4 artificer / 6 fighter
4 of X -> 2 feats from fighter, or 1 feat from arti and 3rd level spells(positive energy infusion, insightful damage, adamantine weapons)

8 artificer, 6 ranger, 6 fighter [IMO, since insightful damage is like 4 AP back vs a feat, when you have an ass ton of em]

ManyShot [Bow]
Fusilade [Gxbow... i think it would pull ahead of repeater... we need math....]
Rest of the Time [Repeater]

I guess there are 4 options with this split:
1. Drop Sniper shot and grab t5 AA.
2. t5 deepwood
3. t5 fighter
4. t5 Battle Engineer

Needle is a pretty amazing repeater given its threat profile. Pure Ranger with a repeater has been viable since the Deepwood pass.
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Reply #12 - Jun 9th, 2017 at 3:32am
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I can corroborate that repeaters have adrenaline work on the extra bolt SOMETIMES but that was quite a while ago. It felt fucking random too, which I didn't understand.
  

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Reply #13 - Jun 9th, 2017 at 3:44am
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On an offhand glance it looks like Pure arty will be the best if you combine it with AA imbues, and the other bonuses of sun-elf.

41 BE
4 AT (wand and scroll mastery)
14 Sun-elf
12 Arcane Archer [True Strike, Imbues]
8 Harper

We need an idea of the kind of DPS this thing can put out as a pure before throwing splashes around.
6 fighter seems sad when you can get your multi from capstone. Artis are not feat starved.
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Reply #14 - Jun 9th, 2017 at 3:55am
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Ranged SA will be an issue with these builds. You get 10 meters with elf cores, base is 15, so 25 total.
Compare this to a pure deepwood repeater (unlimited) or a rogue GxBow @ 75 before racial.

A sniper shot / arti / fighter would be @ 30 before racial, and 40 after.

It's gonna be noticeable and put you in more danger.
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harharharhar wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 12:12pm:
6 Fighter/5Arty/9Ranger


Evasion is nice as fuck but you need 6 arty for insightful damage so that's 4 more AP into harper.
Definitely a nice split though. That fucks up t5 deep wood or the multi something hard.
Or else drop fusillade and then why play an arti?

idk

Shadowdancer probably won't be a bad destiny for these builds since Ass trick is looking too expensive, and their SA is low. Evasion++
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Is there another racial comprable to sun-elf?
Aracnotechnician is dogshit.

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harharharhar wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 11:44pm:
Overstated? You literally just rewrote what I said in my OP.

If you like, take it to mean I stated the same thing again over what you said.  Grin

harharharhar wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 11:44pm:
Unless I'm not understanding and you're saying GxB is ok'ish without Rogue 18 but having T5 Mechanic. If that's the case, to that I say, "meh"

But yeah, this one. Meh.


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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Jun 9th, 2017 at 3:32am:
I can corroborate that repeaters have adrenaline work on the extra bolt SOMETIMES but that was quite a while ago. It felt fucking random too, which I didn't understand.

That was my experience, too.  It seemed to be random whether it worked on one or sometimes more than one bolt which is why I called it *weird*.

Thinking about it further, I wonder if it's only applying to the first bolt and if doubleshot check triggers a second bolt off the first, it gets the adrenaline bonus while the base 2nd and 3rd bolts don't?  If so, that would explain the fairly random appearance.
  
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I think probably it only applies to first bolt and the occasional 2nd bolt with adrenaline you've observed is when you get a doubleshot bolt in the andrenalized volley.
  
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Reply #20 - Jun 9th, 2017 at 1:56pm
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18 rogue/2 arti mech is getting a nice buff without even putting points in BE from the passive runearm upgrades.

That being said, I think the best arti BE build will be pure + gnome/deepgnome w/ light repeater for the +1 crit range and +1 multi. I don't think it's going to break any records, but it should be viable and fun.
  

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harharharhar wrote on Jun 9th, 2017 at 1:35pm:
I think probably it only applies to first bolt and the occasional 2nd bolt with adrenaline you've observed is when you get a doubleshot bolt in the andrenalized volley.

You literally just rewrote what I said in my post. 

Digimonk wrote on Jun 9th, 2017 at 1:22pm:
Thinking about it further, I wonder if it's only applying to the first bolt and if doubleshot check triggers a second bolt off the first, it gets the adrenaline bonus while the base 2nd and 3rd bolts don't?  If so, that would explain the fairly random appearance.


Guessing you hadn't refreshed the thread to see my post before you made your post, but it's still pretty damned funny given your response to Revaulting.    Grin

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Reply #22 - Jun 9th, 2017 at 5:08pm
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Am excited about both Gnome and Sun-elf builds.
I guess the other question is how much decent caster stuff you can cram into an Artificer.
Is it even worth the bother?
A working Tac-det is nice before a pin, and a blade barrier is nice before an Ottos.
PK / color spray gnomes are a slick addition. The new clickies in BE look decent.
How much DPS are rune arms if you keep em macro'd?
Is it worth getting the blast rod SLA? I know its OP in heroics but in epics it looks kinda garbage.
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41 BE
20 Deep Gnome
8 Harper
13 Aracno Tech

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Reply #24 - Jun 9th, 2017 at 5:22pm
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http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Machination_of_Madness

8 to 34, + 1d10 per artificer level = 131 damage per cast @ tier 5 charge
500 force spell power, 50% crit chance
131*1.5*6 = 1179 damage on average

Wow, that is horseshit when my monk can crit for like 5k.

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There's a 20d4 dot possible on the rune arm. So 50 damage every 2 seconds with no save.
~250 dps on a boss, which is not great.

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11 damage proc @ 200% RP in blitz is like 300 RP, or a 4x multiplier.
So 44 damage a hit. What was the calculation on hits per minute with a repeater? 210ish?? Talk about an old ass number.
3.5 hits per second @ 44 damage a hit.
~150 dps

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volt_ wrote on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 4:43pm:
Be a container for your genes to control your behavior in order to reproduce
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