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Build advice - spell resistance
Jun 13th, 2017 at 5:12pm
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Could someone explain the changes to spell resistance for me (or point me in the direction of the changes)?

The old system scaled 1-20, wasn't stacking, and while it was pretty much essential to the lower levels, somewhere around levels 12-14, it became worthless.

I have no idea the range of the new system or if it stacks, how long it's good for - or if it's good at all.  My old belt of SR was 17.  I crafted a new one (min level 1) and it says +4.  I don't know if that's better, or even more worthless than it was before.

Also, which is better?  SR or MRR?  Which number should I be more concerned about?  Roughly what numbers do I want for each at levels 5/10/15?

  

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Re: Build advice - spell resistance
Reply #1 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 6:09pm
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mrr is damage reduction against spell damage, ala prr
Spell resistance is ignoring a spell unless the caster beats your Sr number. This is going to get better for certain races in U36. Ddowiki has a good explanation of both:
  
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Re: Build advice - spell resistance
Reply #2 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 8:46pm
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There are some goofy fuck-ups in how SR stacks. SSG says they're going to fix some of them. Except for gear, almost none of the sources identify whether they're normal, insightful, or something else. Typical Turbine thoroughness....
  

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Re: Build advice - spell resistance
Reply #3 - Jun 14th, 2017 at 2:24pm
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Cannith craft it. Mob caster levels are a bit of a crap shoot, but with 19+9 at level 10 and 25+12 at 15 you will be effectively immune to magic that rolls against it. You can also get 12 at level 5, but that's probably not worth it.

Regular and insightful can both craft onto a cloak.
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Reply #4 - Jun 14th, 2017 at 3:59pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 14th, 2017 at 2:24pm:
Cannith craft it. Mob caster levels are a bit of a crap shoot, but with 19+9 at level 10 and 25+12 at 15 you will be effectively immune to magic that rolls against it. You can also get 12 at level 5, but that's probably not worth it.

Regular and insightful can both craft onto a cloak.

Wait until the crow sr change to live... Devs will have to change sr stacking or draw will just become immune to magic that has SR checks
  
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Reply #5 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 11:22am
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U36 is supposed to fix the racial and monk SR values to stack.  There may also be a nerf to Equipment based bonuses as just making it the “Enhancement” bonus and calling it good was too much work.

But, currently, you can UMD yourself to SR victory in heroics.  A level 14 Artificer with Whirling Words and a Mass SR scroll can have a 41 SR.  Also, the Heroic Drow Outrunner armor is well worth taking a look at.
  

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Reply #6 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 5:09pm
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QuantumFX wrote on Jun 15th, 2017 at 11:22am:
A level 14 Artificer with Whirling Words and a Mass SR scroll can have a 41 SR.

that is actually ridiculous for level 14. I can't recall any mobs that are cr 30+ in level 12-18 content.
  

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Reply #7 - Jun 16th, 2017 at 3:14am
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I have a swashbuckler at 17, she's using that quality SR light armor from search and rescue, along with enhancement and insightful SR from random items. She's at 44 standing IIRC. Someone cast SR,mass on me and apparently something stacks, SR went up to 49.
  
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Reply #8 - Jun 16th, 2017 at 10:29am
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SR items are very nice.  Makes the racial SR useless.
  
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Reply #9 - Jun 16th, 2017 at 11:10am
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crunch wrote on Jun 16th, 2017 at 3:14am:
Someone cast SR,mass on me and apparently something stacks, SR went up to 49.


The spell version tends to have a higher value than racial SR, diamond soul, and enhancement bonus SR gear.
  

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Reply #10 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 5:19pm
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Hmm... my Drow Barb was capping out @ 125 SR.. was nice but just meant I got the living shit kicked out of me in melee
  
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Reply #11 - Jun 19th, 2017 at 11:20am
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ZooperDooper wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 5:19pm:
Hmm... my Drow Barb was capping out @ 125 SR.. was nice but just meant I got the living shit kicked out of me in melee

This is pretty much my take on SR, too.  I haven't bothered building for SR in a long time.

If you need SR, you're killing too slow and/or lacking proper CC.
  
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Reply #12 - Jun 19th, 2017 at 2:45pm
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But if you can get it very easily with the proposed changes it will be great
  
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Reply #13 - Jun 19th, 2017 at 5:30pm
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SpaceGoat wrote on Jun 19th, 2017 at 2:45pm:
But if you can get it very easily with the proposed changes it will be great

The only thing that's really changing is that racial SR will stack with bonuses from equipment and other sources, right?  If so, that doesn't change much.
  
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Re: Build advice - spell resistance
Reply #14 - Jun 19th, 2017 at 9:43pm
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So lets say i make a human cheesy barb for shits and giggles.

what are good numbers on SR?
currently i could get:

79 from rng belt
9 from serenity
14 from the drow armor
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102

Is that enough to devout the armor slot and a tier 2 twist for that? or even at 100 it will suck?
  
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Re: Build advice - spell resistance
Reply #15 - Jun 20th, 2017 at 11:00am
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Reyes. wrote on Jun 19th, 2017 at 9:43pm:
So lets say i make a human cheesy barb for shits and giggles.

what are good numbers on SR?
currently i could get:

79 from rng belt
9 from serenity
14 from the drow armor
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102

Is that enough to devout the armor slot and a tier 2 twist for that? or even at 100 it will suck? 


It depends on what you are running, but 102 should be really good. I don't know what the new max CR is in the new raid, but mob caster level should never be over their CR if you want to measure in game. The Black Abbot's caster level and and CR are both 59 for example.
  

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