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Jun 29th, 2017 at 10:57am
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Artemisser v1

20 Artificer
Neutral
Human

Stats:
8  str
16 dex (w/ +5 tome)
16 con
18 int (+ levels)
8  wis
8  cha

Feats:
1 Point Blank Shot
1 Rapid Shot
(A)Rapid Reload
3 Precision
4 Precise Shot
6 Completionist
8 Weapon Focus Ranged
9 Dodge
12 Imp Critical
12 Spell Focus Evocation
15 Greater Spell Focus Evocation
16 Imp Precise Shot
18 Mobility
20 Shot on the Run
21 Overwhelming Crit
24 Combat Archery
26 Epic Spellpower
27 Epic Spell Focus Evocation
28 Double Shot
29 Elusive Target
30 Watchful Eye
30 Scion of the Plane of Fire


Enhancements:

Battle Engineer: 41 AP

Harper: 28 AP

Cores 4/6 (Int) (6 pts)
Strategic Combat I (2 pts)
Harper Enchantment (2 pts)
Know the Angles 3/3

Racial: 17 AP

Cores 2/5 (Dmg boost + Int) (3 pts)
3/3 Improved Recovery (6 pts)
Sniper 3/3 (6 pts)
Action Surge Int 2/3

Arcanotechnician: 4 AP

1/6 Cores
3/3 Wand and Scroll Mastery

Epic Destiny: Legendary Dreadnought

Extra AB 3/3
+1 Con

AB: Damage 3/3
+1 Con

Critical Damage 3/3
AB: Haste 3/3
+1 Con

Devastating Critical (2 pts)
Advancing Blows (2 pts)

Master's Blitz (Resistance) (2 pts)


Twists:
3 Otto's Whistler
2 Pin
1 Purge the Wicked
1 Rejuvenation Cocoon
1 Stay Frosty
« Last Edit: Jul 17th, 2017 at 12:18pm by 5 Foot Step »  

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Reply #1 - Jun 29th, 2017 at 4:59pm
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Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
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Reply #3 - Jun 29th, 2017 at 8:41pm
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What rune arm do you plan on using with this build?
  
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Reply #4 - Jun 30th, 2017 at 10:13pm
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Probably Knives Eternal for impulse and kinetic, and make a cannith electric item.

for leveling; Hand of Tombs[disruption], Disciplinator[smiting], Titan's Fist[kinetic lore], Tira's Splendor,[silver, hamp].
  

Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Re: U36 pure BE arti
Reply #5 - Jul 1st, 2017 at 12:35am
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Rubbinns wrote on Jun 30th, 2017 at 10:13pm:
Probably Knives Eternal for impulse and kinetic, and make a cannith electric item.

for leveling; Hand of Tombs[disruption], Disciplinator[smiting], Titan's Fist[kinetic lore], Tira's Splendor,[silver, hamp].

So raid loot rune arms, and one from Subterrane?

What about St. MuRays Fire? Or the Canoneer's Goggles?

Titans Fist drops in an abandoned raid, and if I'm not mistaken, the INT on it STILL doesnt work.

Disciplinator drops in VoN6, and in 7 years, I've not seen one drop. Better off making some CC Contruct bane bolts and calling it a day.

Tira' s Splendor can be farmed, but it also seems fairly rare. In the few Garamol farms I ran with a full raid group, 1 dropped on 3 runs. Doable if you have the patience.

I'd argue that Arm of the Archons is the hands down winner for rune arms at this point. Unless there some very specific situations where swapping might be of benefit.

Knives Eternal... I wasn't aware of anyone playing an Arty to high enough levels to care about it before now, although 2 Arty splash rogues might have gotten some mileage from it.

Why not Machinations of Madness, if we're gonna go "full retard" on raid loot? It has some snazzy bonuses, iirc.

This is not a polemic, I am just a little baffled by these choices.  Huh

Edited:
Farming a Fatal Flaw from Subversion is well worth the grief. Easily the best repeater if you dont have Greensteel.

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Metal-Beast wrote on Jul 1st, 2017 at 12:35am:
So raid loot rune arms, and one from Subterrane?

they all fill niche roles and offer unique effects. the smiter and disrupter are content swaps and handy now that aa does not apply. can craft kinetic lore on a ring, or hamp on other gear, and best dps arm is mythic arm of archons. But these are some alternatives to what some may want to gear up with.
  

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Re: U36 pure BE arti
Reply #7 - Jul 1st, 2017 at 9:20am
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Recommendation: arcane pulse
  

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Re: U36 pure BE arti
Reply #8 - Jul 1st, 2017 at 5:51pm
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Why pure?
  
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Reply #9 - Jul 3rd, 2017 at 11:36am
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Metal-Beast wrote on Jul 1st, 2017 at 12:35am:
So raid loot rune arms, and one from Subterrane?


Knives Eternal or Machinations of Madness are probably best in slot. Arm of the Archons is many times easier to get and almost as good though.
  

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Rubbinns wrote on Jun 30th, 2017 at 10:13pm:
for leveling; Hand of Tombs[disruption], Disciplinator[smiting], Titan's Fist[kinetic lore], Tira's Splendor,[silver, hamp].


Animus has banishing as well, but it's level 19 so it comes in pretty late in the game.
  

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Re: U36 pure BE arti
Reply #11 - Jul 6th, 2017 at 1:50pm
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General Comments:
You won’t be able to take IPS at level 15 with a starting 14 DEX  (18 DEX with +4 of the tome bonus kicking in.).  You could take it at level 20 if you’re plotting a lesser reincarnation though.

Runearms:
Level 14-19: Whirling Words: It’s the lowest level tier 5 rune arm shot.  And the abilities don’t get overpowered by cannith crafting.

Asheras wrote on Jul 1st, 2017 at 5:51pm:
Why pure?

New Battle Engineer capstone has the crit multiplier.
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Reply #12 - Jul 7th, 2017 at 9:56am
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QuantumFX wrote on Jul 6th, 2017 at 1:50pm:
General Comments:
You won’t be able to take IPS at level 15 with a starting 14 DEX  (18 DEX with +4 of the tome bonus kicking in.).  You could take it at level 20 if you’re plotting a lesser reincarnation though.


Oops. CA is delayed too, I'll revise it.
  

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Reply #13 - Jul 10th, 2017 at 6:43am
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The feats selected seem to  primarily focus on ranged.

Do you think that maybe replacing dodge, mobility, and shot on the run with maybe maximize, empower, and quicken would add more versatility to the build?

It just seems that the pew. pew dps aspect is just sorta ok for an ari, but adding in tactical det, lightening motes, etc add some more versatility.

Or is the game at a point where it's just better to focus on one aspect?
  
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Reply #14 - Jul 12th, 2017 at 12:32pm
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Fred Astaire wrote on Jul 10th, 2017 at 6:43am:
The feats selected seem to  primarily focus on ranged.

Do you think that maybe replacing dodge, mobility, and shot on the run with maybe maximize, empower, and quicken would add more versatility to the build?

It just seems that the pew. pew dps aspect is just sorta ok for an ari, but adding in tactical det, lightening motes, etc add some more versatility.

Or is the game at a point where it's just better to focus on one aspect?


I think if you're looking to primarily cast spells, you should go Arcanotechnician. You really need to specialize.
  

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Reply #15 - Jul 12th, 2017 at 2:09pm
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QuantumFX wrote on Jul 6th, 2017 at 1:50pm:
New Battle Engineer capstone has the crit multiplier.

Yes.  But all anyone runs is 1-20 R-TR's.  How many quests do you run at level 20?
  
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just a FYI, you have spell focus evo as a lvl 8 feat, but spell focus feats are not an option for Arti bonus feats.
  
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Loaf_Beef wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
just a FYI, you have spell focus evo as a lvl 8 feat, but spell focus feats are not an option for Arti bonus feats.


Right, the character planner was wrong. I forgot to go back and edit that. Fixed now, thanks.
  

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Asheras wrote on Jul 12th, 2017 at 2:09pm:
Yes.  But all anyone runs is 1-20 R-TR's.  How many quests do you run at level 20?


Technically, I won’t have to worry about that for another 9 rTRs.  (But, that will be extended out by 3 eTRs that I’m in no big hurry to do.)  After that, I'll have to start doing the 20 Epic quests to get Tokens.
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Reply #19 - Jul 18th, 2017 at 9:12am
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Hello people. How is the dps part of the build nowadays? got any numbers?
  
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Korvel wrote on Jul 18th, 2017 at 9:12am:
Hello people. How is the dps part of the build nowadays? got any numbers?


It's less than mech.
  

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Reply #21 - Jul 19th, 2017 at 5:38am
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FFS, I should have known it was a just a matter of time before every build listed includes the 10 Racial AP...

Follows the same pattern just like every build of the past included Completionist and whatever highest Stat Tome available at the time.

At least the +5 Dex tome listed is "easyish" enough to get for most people.
  

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5 Foot Step wrote on Jul 18th, 2017 at 11:25am:
It's less than mech.



Yes but arti has runearm and BB to add some damage. They are part of the class features so why not use them? Adding those as well i think you can get close to the mech dps with more defences and survivability. Am i wrong?
  
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Reply #23 - Jul 21st, 2017 at 5:34pm
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Korvel wrote on Jul 19th, 2017 at 8:05am:
Yes but arti has runearm and BB to add some damage. They are part of the class features so why not use them? Adding those as well i think you can get close to the mech dps with more defences and survivability. Am i wrong?


My admittedly lazy testing included runearm blast damage. Even spamming Endless Fusillade and Runearm blasts was barely more damage than 18/2 mech auto attacking and blasting.

Also I don't see how Arti is more survivable.
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jul 21st, 2017 at 5:34pm:
My admittedly lazy testing included runearm blast damage. Even pamming Endless Fusillade and Runearm blasts was barely more damage than 18/2 mech auto attacking and blasting.

Also I don't see how Arti is more survivable.

How much faster is a repeater than a great crossbow? If going vorpal fishing, taking tier 5 mech for both along with all the relevant ranged feats, haste, and tenser/hezz cookie? Specifically for heroic mid to high reaper. Would 19-20 on gxbow beat out light repeater spam on total number of vorpals?
  

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