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Not able to put buyouts on Essences?
Aug 29th, 2017 at 5:07pm
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Every time I cruise by the ASAH looking for Cannith Essences, I notice there are 0 auctions with buyouts. Are you just not able to post a buyout, or are those all getting bought up too fast to see?
  

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Re: Not able to put buyouts on Essences?
Reply #1 - Aug 29th, 2017 at 5:11pm
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That's odd. I seem to remember seeing buyout prices listed for Cannith essences.

Just checked Khyber ASAH...no buyouts there either. Weird.
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Re: Not able to put buyouts on Essences?
Reply #2 - Aug 29th, 2017 at 5:42pm
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Some things you can't do buyouts on.

Per the wiki:

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When selling items available in the DDO Store, you cannot set a buyout price when posting. This restriction applies to
Ability and skill tomes
Raid Timer Bypass Hourglasses
Omnispell Dust / Omnispell Stones
Cannith Crafting essences
Hair dyes
Siberys Dragonshards (restriction applies to flawed/imperfect/siberys/exceptional/flawless); siberys dragonshard fragments can be sold on the astral exchange with a buyout price
Hearts of Wood
  
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Re: Not able to put buyouts on Essences?
Reply #3 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 1:10am
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weird, I remember being able to put buyouts on crafting essences...
Maybe it's a new quality of life improvement... that got sneaked in at some point
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Reply #4 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 1:15am
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This isnt new.. been like this
  
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Reply #5 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 1:16am
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Been that way for ages upon ages, it's nothing 'new'
  
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Reply #6 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 3:17pm
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Now I'm curious why the market for crafting essences hasn't stabalized yet. Its been months, but you don't see people hawking them in the streets. Regular AH is useless(yeah, I'm tots' gonna pay 2 million plat for 1,000 essences, uh-huh) and with no buyouts the ASAH has an equally high use-deficit-disorder.
  

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Re: Not able to put buyouts on Essences?
Reply #7 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 7:13pm
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noamineo wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 3:17pm:
Now I'm curious why the market for crafting essences hasn't stabalized yet. Its been months, but you don't see people hawking them in the streets. Regular AH is useless(yeah, I'm tots' gonna pay 2 million plat for 1,000 essences, uh-huh) and with no buyouts the ASAH has an equally high use-deficit-disorder.


The prices have been slowly coming down on cannith.  They're down to "stupid" expensive from "crazy fucking stupid, are you fucking shitting me, you really want that much" expensive.
  

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Reply #8 - Aug 31st, 2017 at 11:07am
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Skoodge wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 7:13pm:
The prices have been slowly coming down on cannith.  They're down to "stupid" expensive from "crazy fucking stupid, are you fucking shitting me, you really want that much" expensive. 

Yeah.

I've been trying to sell the same +2 Tome for months on the ASAH.

I'm not even asking an unreasonable amount.

But the "no buyout on DDO Store Items" makes some sense from a business perspective, even if it is frustrating as fuck for players.

Crafting essences makes no sense though, there's literally millions of them generated free from deconstructing trash loot, so that seems like a dubious restriction.

Better to unlock those for buyout and then sell much better crafting Elixirs to get more "bang for the buck" since DDO is all about QoL purchases at this point.
  

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Reply #9 - Aug 31st, 2017 at 11:43am
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They typically do not allow a BO price on anything they sell themselves.  Their logic appears to be "You want it now?  You buy it from us."  So no BO price is available for the plebes who are competing with the masters.
  

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I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive.


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Re: Not able to put buyouts on Essences?
Reply #10 - Aug 31st, 2017 at 1:07pm
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Frank wrote on Aug 31st, 2017 at 11:43am:
They typically do not allow a BO price on anything they sell themselves.  Their logic appears to be "You want it now?  You buy it from us."  So no BO price is available for the plebes who are competing with the masters.

This is bad juju.

Leaving newbs out in the cold, or worse, fleecing them for being newbs isn't the way to retain players in a dying population base.

Maybe SSG should have sat in on some of the Mobile Gaming business meetings to see how the new micro-transaction economy works.

  

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Reply #11 - Aug 31st, 2017 at 4:08pm
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People would really pay significant amounts of plat and/or shards for some essences you can thousands of just by playing the game and deconning the crap loot (pretty much all of it) you get in every quest?  It's the stupid rare collectibles that are a pain in the ass to get enough of.

On top of having one toon at 400 crafting and another at 390ish, I've got 100k+ essences sitting in the bank.  All of those essences were acquired just by deconning stuff as I played and with no effort specifically towards farming essences. 

Deconning the loot isn't even that hard but if you're really lazy you can semi-automate it:
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/486542-Cannith-Deconstuction-Script
  
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Reply #12 - Sep 1st, 2017 at 12:06am
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I only need 1 toon 400 crafting.. but the others are like 200 just from deconing shit and i barely play on them.
  
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Re: Not able to put buyouts on Essences?
Reply #13 - Sep 1st, 2017 at 12:16pm
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Digimonk wrote on Aug 31st, 2017 at 4:08pm:
People would really pay significant amounts of plat and/or shards for some essences you can thousands of just by playing the game and deconning the crap loot (pretty much all of it) you get in every quest?  It's the stupid rare collectibles that are a pain in the ass to get enough of.

On top of having one toon at 400 crafting and another at 390ish, I've got 100k+ essences sitting in the bank.  All of those essences were acquired just by deconning stuff as I played and with no effort specifically towards farming essences. 

Deconning the loot isn't even that hard but if you're really lazy you can semi-automate it:
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/486542-Cannith-Deconstuction-Script


I'm on a TR cycle and not really building essences that fast. I've managed to bank about 30k but can't seem to get it above that number(keep having to craft new items!) So I'm not really able to bank the essences I need to make good use of a crafting XP elixir.
  

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Reply #14 - Sep 1st, 2017 at 12:54pm
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Skrilla wrote on Sep 1st, 2017 at 12:06am:
I only need 1 toon 400 crafting.. but the others are like 200 just from deconing shit and i barely play on them.

Yeah, the alt has gone from 370ish to 390ish just from being my decon mule.

  
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Re: Not able to put buyouts on Essences?
Reply #15 - Sep 2nd, 2017 at 8:27am
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I stopped counting long ago how many essences I have, when they changed CC, I changed all my old stuff and got about 100K I spent 80K getting to above LVL320, and since then I've just been deconning ( I crafted one or two items, I know I should craft more as I have a whole stable of alts that needs decent equipments ).
Last time I looked I remember seeing 4 or 5 stacks spread over the 11 pages of ingredient bank... ( there might be more, you know hoarding and all )
  

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