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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8854 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Sentient Weapons News? Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:04pm	Print Post
	I hear rumblings on the Motherboards that the devs may have released some information about the sentient weapons during a DDO podcast. Since abhor the term "podcast" with all my heart, I don't know what was said, and the motherboard posting appear to be "what was said, plus all of my retarded ideas!" Anyone know what was ACTUALLY released?

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8854 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #1 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:08pm	Print Post
	N/M, found my own answer on the Wiki: Quote: Sentient weapons are no longer going to be something that levels up with you, it's now going to be an end-game only thing. The reason is that the devs stated that they realise that there is currently little incentive or reason to stay and play at cap, and that it is going to be their focus for a while to give people incentives to stay and play at cap and that the sentient weapons is an opportunity for them to do that. Also, the mechanical & flavour elements of sentient weapons will be decoupled, so that you will be free to choose your weapons personality/voice and abilities separately. The reason for this was b/c it is their intention is that you won't be put in a situation where you feel forced to choose a personality that really annoys you just b/c it's abilities are deemed the most optimal for your build, which could happen if they were packaged together. (That is, of course, unless Cordo & Torc get their way and the most powerful weapon has the personality of a kobold ...... ). Translation: more lvl 30 gear no on will give a shit about. Quote: Cordovan: We'll have a lot more on Sentient Weapons as we get closer to release, but they will be high-level items acquired through the Ravenloft content, and their personality will be separated from the rest of the item so you can select the item you want and the personality you want. At it's core we are using an Augment-like system for both personality and benefit. Translation: new crafting system for you to not give a shit about. You know what would encourage me to stay and play at cap? FUCKING TR GEAR.

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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #2 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:41pm	Print Post
	This decision ought to surprise no one. It's much easier to make a shit weapon that stays at one ML than to make a shit weapon that slowly gains enough xp to be shit at all levels.

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8854 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #3 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:45pm	Print Post
	Yeah I shouldn't be at all surprised, but I am. They just keep finding new ways to disappoint.

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Ah Pook Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 314159265 Posts: 1439 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2014	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #4 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:04pm: Since abhor the term "podcast" with all my heart How do you feel about "vlog?"

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8854 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #5 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 5:38pm	Print Post
	Ah Pook wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 5:32pm: How do you feel about "vlog?" There's a little less hatred because its not specifically named for a retarded device, but by the same token they are much more annoying because you have to see some ugly SOB's face. And let's be real, here: anyone who's ever created a 'vlog' and actually called it that would have to be ugly as sin

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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #6 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 5:51pm	Print Post
	I'm fine with the weapon not being TR usable gear. We have enough of that. There are plenty of systems to encourage and support TRing. We need some stuff to do at cap. This game has been all about the TR for the last year or more. I'd like an end game. It's fine if you disagree. But not every system, in my opinion, needs to serve the TR bandwagon player contingent.


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Metal-Beast Abbot Raider Offline \m/ Posts: 767 Joined: Apr 13^th, 2014	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #7 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 5:51pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:08pm: Cordovan: We'll have a lot more on Sentient Weapons as we get closer to release, but they will be high-level items acquired through the Ravenloft content, and their personality will be separated from the rest of the item so you can select the item you want and the personality you want. At it's core we are using an Augment-like system for both personality and benefit. So not only is it level cap gear you'll only ever use to grind the 2 raids (at most) to get it in a redundant circle-jerk of grind, it's also CONTENT locked behind an expansion pack paywall. The fail keeps right on truckin'. You know what would've been better than sentient weapons from Ravenloft? Visible Cloaks. I'd literally pay real world money to see my cloaks like in LotRO. I'd pay additional money if it was an epic Strahd sytle vampie cloak with the high collar. I'd pay ALL THE MONIES if it was a cloak like Batman's (Cloak of the Bat, it's in the lore) that occasionally fluttered even when there was no wind and I wasn't moving. I'd�take out a mortgage if it had the matching cowl. We know they can't design gear for shit, but the art department still earns their cheques, so they should lean on that instead. Revaulting wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:41pm: It's much easier to make a shit weapon that stays at one ML than to make a shit weapon that slowly gains enough xp to be shit at all levels. I LOL'd harder than I should have at this.

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8854 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #8 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 5:56pm	Print Post
	Revaulting wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:41pm: It's much easier to make a shit weapon that stays at one ML than to make a shit weapon that slowly gains enough xp to be shit at all levels. Metal-Beast wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 5:51pm: I LOL'd harder than I should have at this. What makes it even sader: being stuck to one ML would have been ok if we got to pick the ML, or if it was just a lower ML. Making it ML 30 is just a fucking waste of time. They could give it to me as a completed, fully upgraded weapon, I'd still never use it.

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Ah Pook Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 314159265 Posts: 1439 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2014	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #9 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 5:59pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 5:38pm: And let's be real, here: anyone who's ever created a 'vlog' and actually called it that would have to be ugly as sin Oh yeah.� Great face for podcasts.� �

	Daggertooth wrote on Apr 14^th, 2017 at 6:52pm: I'm pretty fucking sure I am a special snowflake. Frank wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 8:32am: Laugh it up, funny man.
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #10 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 6:05pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 5:56pm: Making it ML 30 is just a fucking waste of time. Ive ssen nothing that says it will be ML 30.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8854 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #11 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 6:51pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 6:05pm: Ive ssen nothing that says it will be ML 30.� Quote: it's now going to be an end-game only thing. You're right, that doesn't EXPRESSLY say it will be ML30. The rest of the paragraph: Quote: Sentient weapons are no longer going to be something that levels up with you, it's now going to be an end-game only thing. The reason is that the devs stated that they realize that there is currently little incentive or reason to stay and play at cap, and that it is going to be their focus for a while to give people incentives to stay and play at cap and that the sentient weapons is an opportunity for them to do that. Yeah, does not specifically state ML30, but we can bet it'll be 29 or 28 at the absolute fucking MINIMUM, because when was the last time they made an epic item that wasn't 28? Most likely itll be 30, because the devs think players want to hang around at 30 grinding when they could be TRing.

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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #12 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 11:40pm	Print Post
	I think it entirely reasonable to think Sentient Weapons could be 29-30. VERY few weapons are ML 29 or ML 30. A couple exceptions are Storm's Harness Handwraps (ML 29) and First Light Light Hammer (ML 30). Also, you could make some ML 29 and 30 Cannith-Crafted weapons but the named stuff is usually way better. There are TONS of level 28 weapons (including Complete Thunderforged Weapons), however. ML 28 weapons are covered. I'd guess Sentient Weapons will be ML 29 or ML 30.

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8854 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #13 - Sep 16^th, 2017 at 12:08am	Print Post
	Theres also all the armors from Legendary Tempest Spine that are ML 29. Thing is we dont need more ML29 weapons because they are only good for 1 level. I usually dont even bother to pull out my ML 28 crap.

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Who Cares Not this guy ^^^ Offline You sir, are a dickbag. Posts: 1951 Joined: Dec 5^th, 2014	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #14 - Sep 16^th, 2017 at 1:53am	Print Post
	I personally hope that they are ML 30. I won't bother with them if they are. However it could put an end to the need for "end game" stuff discussions based on what "their data" shows. So if you are a "we needs end game!" player, you had better grind that shit like mad. If people don't, and won't come back for it, I wouldn't expect more to follow.

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Mr Reilly Stormreaver Piker Offline They're all gonna laugh at me. Posts: 673 Joined: Sep 22^nd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #15 - Sep 16^th, 2017 at 2:25am	Print Post
	Who Cares wrote on Sep 16^th, 2017 at 1:53am: If people don't, and won't come back for it, I wouldn't expect more to follow. Nope, they will release at least 5 more end game crafting systems before deciding to hire someone to revamp end game. This new person will create a whole new end game crafting system.

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iGouger Ex Member	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #16 - Sep 16^th, 2017 at 2:48am	Print Post
	I agree with noamineo that more TR items would be a better route than endgame equipment. Perhaps DDO doesn't have a good, healthy endgame in my eyes, or perhaps I'm simply not attracted to the idea of endgame, regardless of the MMO. But as far as DDO is concerned, I see endgame as: grind loot to play endgame raids at a higher difficulty; play endgame raids at a higher difficulty to obtain loot which helps you play the same endgame raids at a higher difficulty; rinse and repeat. It's just incredibly grindy from my perspective, and even though TR is technically a grind as well, a heroic TR is at least going through hundreds of different quests, so the grind feels a lot more varied. Personally if I'm playing an MMO, what I need is a sense of progression and variance. The heroic TR system has historically offered this, and is a large part of what I enjoyed about DDO. So in the end, I agree that being able to grind out items which would assist during the TR adventure would be more helpful in the long run.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #17 - Sep 16^th, 2017 at 3:13am	Print Post
	Mr Reilly wrote on Sep 16^th, 2017 at 2:25am: Nope, they will release at least 5 more end game crafting systems before deciding to hire someone to revamp end game.� This new person will create a whole new end game crafting system. I like it. We need more end game crafting systems. 5 isn't enough. Don't incentivize tr some more. mise well delete lvs 21-30.

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shadowgate Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 31 Joined: Oct 28^th, 2012	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #18 - Sep 16^th, 2017 at 3:14am	Print Post
	I guess that idea kind of works. If the weapon gains XP at use you'll be forced to spend time as a high level grinding content to level it. If it's just another crafting system for talking weapons then fuck that shit. It sounds like just another way to add more grind but this time with high level content no one wants to run.


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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #19 - Sep 16^th, 2017 at 6:39am	Print Post
	shadowgate wrote on Sep 16^th, 2017 at 3:14am: It sounds like just another way to add more grind I wouldn't expect anything different. Most likely will be better than every other weapon ( like super crit multi and 20 stats or stuff like that ) and require hundred bazillions of xp. And look like shit on top of that. Keep the ocd hamsters going. Because "moar content" lol.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #20 - Sep 16^th, 2017 at 9:44am	Print Post
	Yes. New content and systems will include grind. Duh. MMO. Do you go to church and get surprised or upset when they pass the offering plate? Duh. No shit Sherlock.


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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5947 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #21 - Sep 16^th, 2017 at 10:16am	Print Post
	You'd be surprised how un-grindy POE is. They restart the League server every 3 months with a new theme, mechanic, or part of the game. I mean you can compete for 100 bjillion currency on standard but most people give fuck all about that.

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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #22 - Sep 16^th, 2017 at 11:57am	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Sep 16^th, 2017 at 9:44am: Yes.� New content and systems will include grind.� Duh.� MMO.� Do you go to church and get surprised or upset when they pass the offering plate?� �Duh.� No shit Sherlock.� You'd be praising the devs if you were the only person online. Which is not that far from less than a hundred at times now. And I don't get the religion, sorry.


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Metal-Beast Abbot Raider Offline \m/ Posts: 767 Joined: Apr 13^th, 2014	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #23 - Sep 16^th, 2017 at 12:52pm	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Sep 16^th, 2017 at 6:39am: I wouldn't expect anything different. Most likely will be better than every other weapon ( like super crit multi and 20 stats or stuff like that ) and require hundred bazillions of xp. And look like shit on top of that. Keep the ocd hamsters going. Because "moar content" lol. The highlighted area will be the only part of this statement to be untrue. The Art department delivers on a consistent basis. Everyone else... Not so much.
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Bobbicus Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 299 Joined: Feb 14^th, 2014	Re: Sentient Weapons News? Reply #24 - Sep 16^th, 2017 at 1:28pm	Print Post
	Metal-Beast wrote on Sep 16^th, 2017 at 12:52pm: The highlighted area will be the only part of this statement to be untrue. The Art department delivers on a consistent basis. Everyone else... Not so much. Zuggtmoy's throne room illustrates this perfectly. Honestly, the haphazard design that DDO does? Same thing in Warframe, but the designers there are competent, and it works. Get a good idea, throw away what you were working on, build the new thing for six months instead. Here? They haven't been bold like that since Cannith Challenges.


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