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Feb 23rd, 2018 at 10:54pm
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Did they quietly nerf the loot tables for Ravenloft in the last update? 

I was logging in and running Mists 2x/day on EE.  Every time, I was getting a vistani token, filigree, and had about a 20% chance to get a named item.   

I've run it 10 times since the update and have gotten 0 filigrees, 0 tokens, and 0 named items. 

Seems unlikely without some change to the loot tables.   Maybe just in time for it to go on sale for points instead of $$?
  
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Reply #1 - Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:01pm
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the tokens should be 100% every chest that has named. i'll run a quick one tonight to check as well. i dont put it past turbine nerfing the rates, making a mistake and slipping up with the totems.

if this is true then it is the biggest piece of evidence i have seen for them nerfing drop rates. i know, they say they dont, but why would you ever believe sleazbags like them. im still mad about the joy of the queen stealth nerf they lied about. like, nigga... anyone who played a shiradi knows you fucked it up, you lying faggots.  never forget
  

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Reply #2 - Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:16pm
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just tested. did 1 run of into the mists ee. pulled totem, filigree, and silver cloak mythic+1. seems fine. maybe you were ransacked? idk
  

Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #3 - Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:52pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:16pm:
...maybe you were ransacked?

He was DEFINITELY ransacked at some point. He said he did it 10 times.

OP, After you run the quest 7 times in a row over a very short time period, the chest becomes "ransacked" which means you don't pull any special loot (named items, filigrees, tokens) out of it anymore until you wait 7 days. 7 days is the length of time that must go by before that chest comes off its "ransack" timer.
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Technomage wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:52pm:
He was DEFINITELY ransacked at some point. He said he did it 10 times.

OP, After you run the quest 7 times in a row or over the span of a couple days, the chest becomes "ransacked" which means you don't pull any special loot out of it anymore until you wait 7 days. 7 days is the length of time that must go by before that chest comes off its "ransack" timer.

what about the first 7 runs then? he should have pulled 7 totems at the very least
  

Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #5 - Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:55pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:54pm:
what about the first 7 runs then? he should have pulled 7 totems at the very least

Maybe he did at least 7 runs over the last 4 days and he didn't realize the chest was ransacked. He then came back today and his ransack timer hadn't reset yet.

If he did 1 run a day the chest would never have gotten ransacked. But over 3 or 4 days, doing 2 a day? Yeah, that can happen.
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Reply #6 - Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:59pm
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Technomage wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:55pm:
Maybe he did at least 7 runs a couple days ago and he didn't realize the chest was ransacked. He then came back today and his ransack timer hadn't reset yet.

update was 2 days ago. possible, but from his post i guess he was using it as a daily x2 farm. and would be kind of hard to miss ransack message 10x in 2 days
  

Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
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Reply #7 - Feb 24th, 2018 at 12:46am
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I should have been more clear.  Have a couple of toons parked at 30.  Been rotating through them and running quest 2x/day on EE total.  When I didn't pull anything yesterday or today, I cycled them all through, and got squat. 

I guess it's possible I miscounted days or something and somehow crossed the 8th run on toons at the same time yesterday?  Or yesterday I ran earlier in the day than 7 days ago, and missed the timing, since ransack is pretty exact on timing.  I dunno, stranger things have happened.  I didn't notice any ransack message, though.

I'll give it a few days and try again.   Glad to know it's just bad timing, and not an actual change in loot.

edit:  logged in last night, and yep, it was ransack.  I feel a wee bit stupid now.  Somehow screwed up my rotation on two toons, and wasnt' counting on the third, I guess.   Oops?
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Reply #8 - Feb 24th, 2018 at 9:25am
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/ransack
^ lists qwests that are ransacked

Alt-f4
^ resets ransack

/death count
^lists deaths this life
  

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