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What effects can proc to a mainhand weapon ?
May 18th, 2018 at 10:57am
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Since U36 (I think) removed AA imbues being applied to Shurikens, I wondered what other effects do transfer. On my shuriken monk build I have seen tendon slice, when using my Razorend ( http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Razorend )and I have been told that Celestia (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Celesti...st_Star_of_Day ) will proc Fiery detonation and sunburst.
Is there information, anywhere in the Wiki, that details what other offhand item effects (i.e. armor pierce, tendon slice, etc.) that will transfer onto a mainhand weapon ? Or, is it just by experimentation that you discovered these ?
  
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Re: What effects can proc to a mainhand weapon ?
Reply #1 - May 18th, 2018 at 12:47pm
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Once upon a time I believe there was a list.
A list that is not much longer than the one you currently have
  

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Re: What effects can proc to a mainhand weapon ?
Reply #2 - May 19th, 2018 at 9:39am
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I did find this DDO forum post from DarkSable on 09-23-2014:

Offhand effects for Thrower Builds.

I'll keep updating this list as we get new tests / abilities.

Confirmed Working from Offhand:
- Doublestrike / Doubleshot
- Tendon Slice (The new % version)
- Greater Sunburst (on Celestia)
- Any of the 'detonation' acid/fire/electric/cold AoE procs, both on named items and lootgen   Is a 'detonation' the same as a 'burst' ??
- Seeker, obviously.
- Erosive (Proc of stone prison, but has a low DC, so might not be useful.)
- Armor Piercing (Appears to not stack with other armor piercing, but works in offhand.)
- Stealth Strike (Cannith Crafting)

Confirmed not Working:
- Any holy / elemental effect that's NOT an AoE proc.
- Deception
- Improved Deception
- Paralyzing
- Deadly Spider Venom
- Extra Damage vs Undead (from Sun Blade)
- Bodyfeeder
- Red Augment Slot Procs (On Offhand Weapons.)
- On-Crit effects of Thunderforged Weapons
- Greensteel Tier 3 effects (But triple healing amp is always a good option.)
- Vampirism, in any form
- Other crafted procs.
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EDIT: Did some testing with what I had laying around - turns out that deception on an offhand weapon does not work at all, even if the main hand doesn't have any form of it.
  
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Re: What effects can proc to a mainhand weapon ?
Reply #3 - May 20th, 2018 at 1:12am
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Pretty sure Dec/Imp Dec weapons have been tested as working recently, tho mostly by 5FS.

I know for a fact Imp Deception in the offhand works. Unless it was changed in most recent patch, it has worked, as it is supposed to, pretty much forever.

  
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Re: What effects can proc to a mainhand weapon ?
Reply #4 - May 20th, 2018 at 10:21am
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Re: What effects can proc to a mainhand weapon ?
Reply #5 - May 21st, 2018 at 3:04pm
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Deception/Imp Deception work and have always worked afaik. Though it is possible some specific items were non-functioning temporarily.

Separately, +sneak attack damage enchantments work, even the new ones that are also called Deception for some reason.

"- Red Augment Slot Procs (On Offhand Weapons.)" is not wrong, but it is helpful to note that those slots are still usable for colorless buffs and spellpower augments (and those add an implement bonus as well)

Threat reducers with different names also work. E.G., Rebellion. Note that you need to make sure it is a ranged threat reducer, cf Treason does not work for threat reduction. (But is still nice anyway).

Also, Deadly works because obvious.

Anyway, a guide might be more helpful:

1-2 = melee
3-13 = Nicked kama (tendon slice + deadly), CC, or legacy loot gen (I have a low level deception of tendon slice offhand)
14-22 = Treason (Deception, Sneak Attack Bonus +5, Armor-Piercing - 15%)
23= Celestia (Greater Sunburst, Fiery Detonation, Planar Conflux, Empty Red Augment Slot)
24-30 = Rebellion (Rebellion (-25% threat), Sneak Attack Bonus +5, Armor-Piercing - 20%, Improved Deception, Empty Red Augment Slot)
28-30 = TF (Devotion/Armor Piercing 35%/Draconic Reinvigoration)
  

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