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Reply #275 - Apr 20th, 2019 at 5:25pm
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Doublestrike:

- 23% gloves
- 15% avenger
- 10% packbanner
- 20% killer
- 9% past life
- 3% iconic past life
- 5% PTWF
- 5% tempest
- 5% Scourge Weapons
- 3% Hail of Blows

=98% + 10k cuts (average 5%) + reaper (20% uptime 67%) = 123% (100%)
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Reply #276 - Apr 28th, 2019 at 10:36pm
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How much dodge you getting on a pure tempest?
  
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Reply #277 - Apr 28th, 2019 at 11:19pm
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DnD wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 10:36pm:
How much dodge you getting on a pure tempest?


27%
  
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Reply #278 - May 6th, 2019 at 10:41pm
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I'm running a dex pure tempest.  Right now I am running around with a Flow (+2 mythic) and Nightshard (I was running the Sinister Handaxe with mythic +2 before and that's not too shabby).  I have good slotted on both, with the deconstructor slotted on the Flow.  Any recommendations on what red augment to slot on the open orange slot on the nightshard?
  
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Reply #279 - May 7th, 2019 at 7:18am
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Makk wrote on May 6th, 2019 at 10:41pm:
deconstructor

Slot this on both weapons. It helps with LOB in KT and a lot of Sharn mobs are constructs. The augment is really good, destruction proc to lower fort and ac, small 6d6 proc on constructs, plus the adamantine bypass.
  

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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #280 - May 7th, 2019 at 10:47am
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Dex based gear set proposals for Sharn :

If trying to retain Silent and Adherent sets while including Artifact and some Sharn upgrades :

Silent Avenger
3 items

Van Ritchen's
Dex
Reflex
MRR

Packbanner
I Dstrike
I Con

Ravenkind
TS
Con
Good
Improved Deception

Fleetfoot
Wis
Nat Armor
Trip

Flightfoot
Speed
Fom

Abbot Quiver
I Deception

Hammerfist Gloves
Minimum Level: 15/29
Doublestrike +9/+23
Threat Reduction +25/+62
Seeker +8/+21
Insightful Deadly +2/+8

Wind Howler Mask      
Insightful Dexterity +9
Relentless Fury
Doubleshot 12%
Tendon Slice +16
Empty Blue Augment Slot
Empty Green Augment Slot

Celestial Ruby Ring Ring
Minimum Level: 15/29
(STR, DEX, INT +8/21)
Stunning+9/+23
Accuracy +12/+33
IPRR

Radiant Ring of Taer Valaestas Ring Minor Artifact
Minimum Level:29
Maximum Filigree Slots: 3
Wisdom +22
Quality Accuracy +8
Quality Deadly +5
Law Absorption +31%


Silent set and Sharn upgrades without adherent :

Silent Set

Packbanner

Executioner's

Hammerfist Gloves
Minimum Level: 15/29
Doublestrike +9/+23
Threat Reduction +25/+62
Seeker +8/+21
Insightful Deadly +2/+8

Shroud of Ardent      
Smoke Screen
Immunity to Fear
Competence Healing Amplification +72
Sheltering +45
Armor Bonus +17

Celestial Ruby Ring Ring
Minimum Level: 15/29
(STR, DEX, INT +8/21) int
Stunning+9/+23
Accuracy +12/+33
IPRR

Radiant Ring of Taer Valaestas Ring Minor Artifact
Minimum Level:29
Maximum Filigree Slots: 3
Wisdom +22
Quality Accuracy +8
Quality Deadly +5
Law Absorption +31%

CC Trinket
Dodge
Devotion
I Accuracy

Slaver boots
False Life
Armor Piercing
Tendon Slice
Q PRR

Collective Sight Goggles
Minimum Level: 15/29
(STR, DEX, CON, INT, WIS, CHA +5/21) con
(INSIGHT STR, DEX, CON, INT, WIS, CHA +3/10) i dex
Quality Resistance+1/+4

Sharn Family set :

Baba glasses
mrr
dex 20
reflex 16

Dragon helm
Ins dex 10
Accuracy 34
deadly 17

Fanily blessing neck
Armor 33%
Fury
true seeing

CC trinket
spell saves
devotion
ins accuracy

Shadowhail cloak
deception
ghostly

cc belt
con 15
parry
Ins dodge

Celestial Sapphire
int 21
profane
improved deception
dodge

Hammerfist gloves
strike 24
seeker 21
insight deadly 8

Piston boots
str
stun 24
quality combat 5

Radiant Ring ARTIFACT
Wis
Q Deadly
Q Accuracy
law absorb

Packbanner
I Dstrike
I con

Wildcard armor
fort
hamp
prr
false life

For Family set the Con can be swapped with Int on goggles to net 6 more con, but then you have to swap Int item for KTA. Shouldnt be an issue unless you dislike swaps and can live without 6 con.
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Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #281 - May 7th, 2019 at 6:29pm
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Are INT tempests a thing yet? For only 4 more pts on Harper you can dump str and dex to get int to hit/damage, Insightful Reflex for reflex saves and very high Dire Charge DC
  
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Reply #282 - May 7th, 2019 at 9:47pm
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Rubbinns wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 7:18am:
Slot this on both weapons. It helps with LOB in KT and a lot of Sharn mobs are constructs. The augment is really good, destruction proc to lower fort and ac, small 6d6 proc on constructs, plus the adamantine bypass.


Thanks.  Will do.  Need to get myself an Echo of Ravenkind.. then I can get good off from the weapons to free up that slot.  What do you think will go well with the deconstructors at that point? (vampire slayer to get silver DR if I go away from molten silver gaunglets?)
  
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Reply #283 - May 7th, 2019 at 9:59pm
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DnD wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 6:29pm:
Are INT tempests a thing yet? For only 4 more pts on Harper you can dump str and dex to get int to hit/damage, Insightful Reflex for reflex saves and very high Dire Charge DC

Why would you want INT over STR?  You're losing out on 5 from Primal Scream, 2 from Ram's Might, and 3-4 from LD.
  
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Reply #284 - May 7th, 2019 at 10:29pm
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Makk wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 9:47pm:
Thanks.  Will do.  Need to get myself an Echo of Ravenkind.. then I can get good off from the weapons to free up that slot.  What do you think will go well with the deconstructors at that point? (vampire slayer to get silver DR if I go away from molten silver gaunglets?)

Only 3 mob types require silver. Pit Fiends, mainly Shroud and KT ToD phase. Horned Devils in Shroud, KT dragon phase, Tea Party, Portable Hole. And Vampires WPM and Strahd?
  

Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #285 - May 10th, 2019 at 4:12am
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I'm a dumb at building dps, and I'm totally on board to do a Tempest, is there a ghetto first life build to work with here? I've got +8 tome +1 racial and +1 universal already set up if that matters. I'd read more of the actual thread but there's only so much of this Magumbo's stuff I can stomach glazing over to get any better sense of what's going on here.
  
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Reply #286 - May 10th, 2019 at 11:54am
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I'm a dumb at building dps, and I'm totally on board to do a Tempest, is there a ghetto first life build to work with here? I've got +8 tome +1 racial and +1 universal already set up if that matters. I'd read more of the actual thread but there's only so much of this Magumbo's stuff I can stomach glazing over to get any better sense of what's going on here.

Disclaimer - This will likely be the only response I ever make towards you that isn't intended to trigger you, so take it for whatever it is or isn't worth.

The TL;DR of this is:  It's the player, not the build that makes a toon good.  If you're dumb at building DPS, you will most likely be dumb at running DPS, even if the build is solid. 

That is a general statement and not targeted towards you specifically. 

If you don't understand what it takes to make a good DPS build and which details make it good, chances are, you won't understand how to run the build in a way that takes full advantage of those details.

I've seen several different players running the same build where one player runs it like a boss while the other is just average or even outright bad with it.  Same build, same gear set, etc.  I have seen this time and time again. 

Conversely, I'm sure most of us have seen those rare players who rock it regardless of what build they're currently on.  Every server has a few of these players and they do what they do by having an intimate understanding of the minutiae of the game mechanics.

For example, take a good CC+instakiller spec'd Wizard build.  Anyone can get a workable wizard build from the forums.  What will differentiate the good from the bad players/toons is knowing which mobs are weak to which saves and which spells check against those saves.  The players who know this type of thing will be faster, more mana efficient and far more useful to their groups than a player who is ignorant of those details and just spams all their holds and instakills in an endless rotation while hoping something lands.

So yes, you definitely want to run a solid build, but the far more important part of the equation is to learn how and why the build actually works.
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Reply #287 - May 10th, 2019 at 12:16pm
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Rubbinns wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 10:29pm:
Only 3 mob types require silver. Pit Fiends, mainly Shroud and KT ToD phase. Horned Devils in Shroud, KT dragon phase, Tea Party, Portable Hole. And Vampires WPM and Strahd?


Werewolf?
  

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Reply #288 - May 10th, 2019 at 10:41pm
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Right.....i forgot this is the vault.

Pfft you dumb bitches don't have a good build for a first life Tempest, you guys suck dicks with your mom for ottos box money.

I await your response to my inquiry.
  
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Reply #289 - May 11th, 2019 at 9:22am
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you guys suck dicks with your mom for ottos box money.

Says the guy who boxed three teifling lives.

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Pfft you dumb bitches don't have a good build for a first life Tempest

Or you're too lazy to read the fucking thread where Rubbinns goes into detail how he's been using a 2nd life toon to do high skulls.  You've been playing Bard so long that you're brain damaged, so let me explain it like you're five:

1. Be DEX based.
2. Take Imp Critical: Piercing.
3. Epic feats: OC, PTWF/Tactician/Dire Charge, Epic Damage Reduction, Epic Reflexes, Arborea.
4. Gear: Silent Avenger + Adherent Sets, Flow main, LGS Dust rapier offhand.
5. Run in LD with these Twists: Sense Weakness for quests / Symmetric Strikes for raids, Balanced Attacks, Unearthly Reaction.


  
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Reply #290 - May 11th, 2019 at 9:35am
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Aww this one's cute, him doesn't know sarcasms.
  
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Reply #291 - May 16th, 2019 at 6:51am
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Now that Hammerfist Gloves are Insightful Doublestrike instead of Doublestrike, anyone have a good solution that incorporates the Family set bonus?  That change forces you to use the Mantle of the Fury for 22% DS, and the resulting gear tetris makes my brain hurt.
  
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Reply #292 - May 16th, 2019 at 10:02am
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Timeshard would be an easy fix.
  

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Reply #293 - May 16th, 2019 at 10:24am
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5 Foot Step wrote on May 16th, 2019 at 10:02am:
Timeshard would be an easy fix.

Do you even Tempest?
  
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Reply #294 - May 16th, 2019 at 1:28pm
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Enjoy the cloak, then.
  

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Reply #295 - May 16th, 2019 at 1:34pm
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I put together this, really quickly.

You could do something with the trinket or ring, but then you have to fit in the insightful strength goggles. And make sure the resulting ring or the trinket is one of the adherent set. All of the Adherent Trinkets and Rings will overlap with attributes on other items making them most likely worse to slot in. And Accuracy needs a slot if reworked/

family set.

Family blessing neck
Armor 33%
Fury
true seeing

Hammerfist gloves
i ds
seeker 21
insight deadly 8

Wildcard armor
fort
hamp
prr
false life

adherent.

eye  ( swap for int/insight int kta goggles )
dex
reflex
mrr

boot
ghostly
i cha 9

Cloak
con
dodge
dstrike

bracers
Legendary Bracers of the Fallen Hero      
Strength +19
Insightful Constitution +9
Stunning +22
Quality Physical Sheltering +12

belt
Stunning +22
Vertigo +22
Vitality +67
Deadly +16

new stuff.

ring Artifact
wis
q deadly
q accuracy
law absorb

helm
Umber Brim Helmet
Minimum Level: 29
Improved Quelling Strikes
Insightful Accuracy +15
Insightful Deception 8
Profane Attributes +2

old stuff.

trinket
cc
spell saves
fire absorb
ins str

ring
slavers
17 con ( for cloak swaps )
Accuracy
tendon slice
q str


Missing

I PRR
Improved Deception
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Reply #296 - May 16th, 2019 at 2:00pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on May 16th, 2019 at 1:28pm:
Enjoy the cloak, then.

You are the Tilo of the Vault.
  
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Reply #297 - May 16th, 2019 at 2:07pm
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Reply #298 - May 16th, 2019 at 2:19pm
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Carpone wrote on May 16th, 2019 at 2:00pm:
You are the Tilo of the Vault.

That seems a bit excessive, even for here.

Plus, you've essentially gone straight to plaid and limited your options for further escalation in comparisons.  I guess there's always Fran.
  
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Reply #299 - May 21st, 2019 at 6:54am
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Who's still running STR build and what is your ideal gear layout shaping up as? Trying to solve the puzzle for the new gear is tough, there's so much overlap.
  

                               
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