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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1207 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Fast Sneaker Jan 6^th, 2019 at 12:36pm	Print Post
	Was in a couple of Babas... had an assassin sneaking around killing the totems, which is fine. What threw me was this guy was sneaking faster then everybody could run, and he had a really good DC for his Assassinates. Going to assume this is a 3 way split with Monk, Ranger and Rogue? If so.. what's the build? Thanks.


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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #1 - Jan 6^th, 2019 at 1:30pm	Print Post
	you literally could have just clicked on him and hit Z at any point to see his split


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #2 - Jan 6^th, 2019 at 2:13pm	Print Post
	ZooperDooper wrote on Jan 6^th, 2019 at 12:36pm: what's the build? Nike

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Sureokwhatever Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 5 Joined: Jul 4^th, 2018	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #3 - Jan 6^th, 2019 at 5:50pm	Print Post
	Thelanis? If so, maybe me... Not sneaking. Normal sprinting, jump at totem, sneak in air, assassinate as landing.


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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1207 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #4 - Jan 6^th, 2019 at 9:35pm	Print Post
	No... Orien.. and he was most definitely sneaking To be fair, it didn't even mean much to me at the time.. but started thinking about it at work and was wondering.. how the fuck is he so damn fast while sneaking? Sureokwhatever wrote on Jan 6^th, 2019 at 5:50pm: Thelanis? If so, maybe me... Not sneaking. Normal sprinting, jump at totem, sneak in air, assassinate as landing.


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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5986 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #5 - Jan 7^th, 2019 at 3:21am	Print Post
	The shadowdancer core clicky while sneaking allows you to move as fast as sprint boost or even faster depending. There's faster sneaking enhancements in ranger that stack with rogue's.
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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1207 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #6 - Jan 7^th, 2019 at 9:51am	Print Post
	Ok.. so looking at it.. Ranger - Deep Woods Stalker - Tier 2 - Faster Sneaking (+50%) 2 Ranger Levels - 8AP total Rogue - Thief/Acrobat - Tier 1 - Fast movement (+1% per Rogue level) 1 Rogue Level - 3AP total Monk - Ninja Spy - Tier 1 - Stealthy (+50%) - 1 Monk Level - 4 AP total Do these all stack? If so.. someone got an Assassin build to make it all come together? I'm thinking a bit of Vistani tossed in to make Pain & Suffering ubber sweet & effective.
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Justanotherlurker Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 384 Joined: Jun 20^th, 2014	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #7 - Jan 7^th, 2019 at 11:53am	Print Post
	You missed the enhancement in the assassin tree.


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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1207 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #8 - Jan 7^th, 2019 at 12:12pm	Print Post
	Justanotherlurker wrote on Jan 7^th, 2019 at 11:53am: You missed the enhancement in the assassin tree. Not sure what the limit is on access to enhancement trees is.. is it 5? 7? I've never really bothered to find out simply because 'dashing' a little of this and a little of that is the most certain way to fuck up a build..... REALLY hoping somebody can come up with a good build. Kind of assuming it's an INT build using Harper for KtA. That makes 4 trees right there. Assassin makes 5... eesh.. HELP!?!


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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1207 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #9 - Jan 7^th, 2019 at 1:35pm	Print Post
	Hmm.. figure this could work.. 10 Rogue 6 Ranger 4 Monk Ro,Ra,Ra,Ra,Ra,Ra,Ra,M,M,M,M,RoRo,Ro,Ro,Ro,Ro,Ro,Ro,Ro Limited to outfits, get the 3rd TWF feat as soon as possible after Rangers are done, Improved Evasion when 10th Rogue hits @ 20
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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1207 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #10 - Jan 7^th, 2019 at 2:01pm	Print Post
	ok... Feats I need: --------------- Dodge Mobility Spring Attack Greater TWF Improved Precise Shot Improved Critical Piercing Insightful Reflexes Feats I would Like: --------------------- Quick Draw Zen Archery Weapon Focus - Piercing Power Critical Combat Expertise Improved Feint Whirlwind Attack I get 14 Feats, just no idea which I can actually TAKE
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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1207 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #11 - Jan 7^th, 2019 at 2:12pm	Print Post
	So.. choices for Race.... Human gets the extra Feat, but lose the ability to hit 20 starting out on INT Deep Gnome, Drow, Gnome, Morning Lord 1 3 6 8(Monk) 9 9(Monk) 12 15 18 20(Rogue) Improved Evasion 21 24 27 30 30 Pros and Cons for each?
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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1207 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #12 - Jan 7^th, 2019 at 3:36pm	Print Post
	Ok... no idea if this will perform.. but would love some input Sneaky 10/6/4 Rogue/Ranger/Monk Lawful Neutral Drow Level Order 1. Rogue. . . . . .6. Ranger. . . . .11. Monk . . . . . 16. Rogue 2. Ranger. . . . . 7. Ranger . . . . 12. Rogue. . . . . 17. Rogue 3. Ranger. . . . . 8. Monk . . . . . 13. Rogue. . . . . 18. Rogue 4. Ranger. . . . . 9. Monk . . . . . 14. Rogue. . . . . 19. Rogue 5. Ranger. . . . .10. Monk . . . . . 15. Rogue. . . . . 20. Rogue Stats . . . . . . . .28pt . . 30pt. . .32pt . . Tome . . Level Up . . . . . . . .---- . . ----. . .---- . . ----. . .-------- Strength. . . . .8. . . . 8 . . . 10. . . .+8. . . .4: INT Dexterity . . . 14. . . .14 . . . 14. . . .+8. . . .8: INT Constitution. . 13. . . .14 . . . 14. . . .+8. . . 12: INT Intelligence. . 20. . . .20 . . . 20. . . .+8. . . 16: INT Wisdom. . . . . .8. . . . 8 . . . .8. . . .+8. . . 20: INT Charisma. . . . 10. . . .10 . . . 10. . . .+8. . . 24: INT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: INT Skills (Errors) . . . . .Rg Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Mo Mo Mo Mo Rg Rg Rg Rg Rg Rg Rg Rg Rg . . . . . 1. 2 .3. 4 .5. 6 .7. 8 .9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------ Concent . 2. 3 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Heal. . . 2. 3 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Disable . 4. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Open Lo . 4. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Search. . 4. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Spot. . . 4. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Bluff . . 4. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Balance . 4. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Jump. . . 4. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Hide. . . 4. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Move Si . 4. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Tumble. . 4. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 UMD . . . 4. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------ . . . . .52 23 19 19 19 19 19 19 19 19 19 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 Max . . .52 12 12 13 13 13 13 12 12 12 12 17 17 17 17 18 18 18 18 19 Feats .1. . . . : Dodge .3. . . . : Mobility .6. . . . : Spring Attack .8 Monk . : Combat Expertise .9. . . . : Insightful Reflexes .9 Monk . : Precision 12. . . . : Whirlwind Attack 15. . . . : Greater Two Weapon Fighting 18. . . . : Improved Critical: Piercing 21 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical 24 Epic . : Weapon Focus: Piercing 26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting 27 Epic . : Power Critical 28 Destiny: Elusive Target 29 Destiny: Hellball 30 Epic . : Toughness 30 Legend : Scion of: Ethereal Plane 10 Monk . : Path of Harmonious Balance 20 Rogue. : Improved Evasion .2 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Undead .6 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider Spells [list=1] Ram's Might (5), Camouflage (7) Gearing, Enhancement & Destiny help please?
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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1207 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #13 - Jan 8^th, 2019 at 9:39am	Print Post
	been plinking around with the enhancements.... not really good at this, but this is what I worked out. No Racial or Reaper yet on the intended toon. ------------------------ Deepwood Stalker (8) Core Far Shot (1) Tier1 Favored Defense (1) Stealthy (3) Tier2 Faster Sneaking (3) ++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ninja Spy (7) Core Basic Ninja (1) Tier1 Stealthy (3) Acrobatic (3) ++++++++++++++++++++++++ Assassin(4) Core Knife in the Darkness (1) Tier1 Stealthy (3) +++++++++++++++++++++++ Thief Acrobat (3) Core Staff Control (1) Tier1 Fast Movement (2) ++++++++++++++++++++++ Vistani (46) Core (6) Knife Expertise (1) Knife Juggler (1) Knife Specialist (1) One With Blades (1) Vistani Fortune (1) Knife Master (1) Tier1 (9) Vistani Knife Training 1 (1) Undead Hunter (1) Mist Stalker 1 (2) Acrobat (3) Rapid Slash (2) Tier2 (9) Vistani Knife Training 2 (2) Bleeding Cuts (2) Mist Stalker 2 (2) Haste Boost (2) Tier3 (8) Vistani Knife Training 3 (2) Mist Stalker 3 (2) Deadly Blades (2) INT (2) Tier4 (9) Vistani Knife Training 4 (2) Celerity (1) Mist Stalker 4 (2) Double Daggers-Double (2) INT (2) Tier5 (6) Vistani Knife Training 5 (2) Mist Stalker 5 (2) Vendetta (2) +++++++++++++++++++++++ Harper Core Agent of Good (1) Tier1 Harper Enchantment (2) Strategic Combat 1 (2) Tier2 Versatile Adept (2) Know the Angles (3) Tier3 Strategic Combat 2 (2) Suggestions? Guess I'll start fucking with gear loadouts for various levels next. Would very much appreciate suggestions for Destiny setup? PS: noticed this gives Undead Favored Enemy, so changing Ranger choice to Constructs
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Gunga Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Fuck You. Posts: 9519 Location: New Jersey Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #14 - Jan 8^th, 2019 at 10:44am	Print Post
	Look at the amount of dopey detective typing you�ve done but you couldn�t hit z once in two raids.

	Smrti wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 3:00pm: Gunga is the best.
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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1207 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #15 - Jan 8^th, 2019 at 11:16am	Print Post
	Like I said before... didn't even occur to me or peak my interest until well after the Raid was over and started thinking about it... Gunga wrote on Jan 8^th, 2019 at 10:44am: Look at the amount of dopey detective typing you�ve done but you couldn�t hit z once in two raids.


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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1207 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #16 - Jan 8^th, 2019 at 11:38am	Print Post
	Might go Assassin instead, and make these changes Assassin (39) Core (3) Knife in the Darkness (1) Dagger in the Back (1) Assassin's Trick (1) Tier1 (8) Toxin Affinity (3) Sneak Attack Training (2) Stealthy (3) Tier2 (5) Venomed Blades (3) Sneak Attack Training (2) Tier3 (7) Critical Mastery (3) Sneak Attack Training (2) INT (2) Tier4 (9) Execute (2) Killer (3) Sneak Attack Training (2) INT (2) Tier5 (8) Assassinate (1) Deadly Strikes (2) Knife Specialization (2) Light Armor Mastery (3) +++++++++++++++++++++++ Vistani (11) Core (1) Knife Expertise (1) Tier1 (7) Vistani Knife Training 1 (1) Undead Hunter (1) Mist Stalker 1 (2) Acrobat (3) Tier2 (4) Vistani Knife Training 2 (2) Haste Boost (2) Wondering if Light Armor Mastery works with outfits.. or do you HAVE to be wearing light armor....
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Toke Stormreaver Piker Offline ... or maybe I was just smoking something. Posts: 744 Joined: Jan 7^th, 2014	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #17 - Jan 8^th, 2019 at 1:15pm	Print Post
	Hitting Z makes me strafe left. Is that not the same for you?

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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1207 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #18 - Jan 8^th, 2019 at 1:58pm	Print Post
	Figure Destiny for a Assassin Shadowdancer (24) Tier1 (8) Stealthy (3) Technician (3) INT (2) Tier2 (6) Lithe (3) Skill Mastery (1) INT (2) Tier3 (5) Grim Precision (3) INT (2) Tier4 (5) Improved Invisibility (3) INT (2) Tier5 (5) Executioners Shot (3) Sealed Soul (2) INT (2) *Added: Shit.. can't take Improved Invis unless you take Shrouding Strike
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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1207 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #19 - Jan 8^th, 2019 at 3:04pm	Print Post
	Gear loadout people.. lets hear your ideas!


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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5986 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #20 - Jan 8^th, 2019 at 3:26pm	Print Post
	dire charge doesn't break stealth

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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1207 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #21 - Jan 8^th, 2019 at 4:07pm	Print Post
	No? Replacing Hellball then... THANKS! WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Jan 8^th, 2019 at 3:26pm: dire charge doesn't break stealth Is there a stun augment? Really have no idea
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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1207 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #22 - Jan 8^th, 2019 at 4:07pm	Print Post
	Epic Precision Lenses (Goggles) Manslayer, Insightful Strength +9, Melee Alacrity 15%, Action Boost Enhancement, Empty Blue Augment Slot Legendary Mask of the Vulkoorim (Helm) Dexterity +19, Dodge +19%, Armor-Piercing - 31%, Reflex Save +16, Trace of Madness, Empty Green Augment Slot Legendary Rose Quartz Sigil Stone (Necklace) Death Ward, Mass (3), Intelligence +19, Quality Constitution +4, Quality Physical Sheltering +12, Empty Yellow Augment Slot Echo of Ravenkind (Trinket) Eternal Holy Burst, True Seeing, Constitution +20, Improved Deception, Empty Yellow Augment Slot, Empty Green Augment Slot,� Adherent of the Mists Set (Legendary) Legendary Shadowhail Cloak (Cloak) Hide +22, Move Silently +22, Deception +16, Ghostly, Empty Green Augment Slot, Silent Avenger Set (Legendary) Legendary Shadow Embrace (Belt) Diversion +29, Quality Doublestrike 4%, Quality Diversion +6, Deadly +14, Empty Yellow Augment Slot Legendary Keylock Ring (Ring1) Disable Device +22, Open Lock +22, Search +22, Spot +22, Empty Blue Augment Slot, Adherent of the Mists Set (Legendary) Legendary Knifepalm (Gloves) Assassinate +9, Bluff +22, Deadly +16, Insightful Diversion +15, Empty Yellow Augment Slot, Adherent of the Mists Set (Legendary) Azure Guard (Boots) Quality Dexterity +4, Insightful Dodge +8%, Lesser Displacement, Riposte +8, Empty Green Augment Slot, Empty Yellow Augment Slot Legendary Ring of Nightfall (Ring2) Insightful Intelligence +9, Insightful Deadly +7, Reflex Save +16, Physical Sheltering +50, Empty Green Augment Slot , Adherent of the Mists Set (Legendary) Legendary Black Opal Bracers (Bracers) Greater Heroism, Magical Sheltering +50, Will Save +16, Ethereal, Empty Yellow Augment Slot Legendary Disciple of the Dawn (Outfit) +14 Enhancement Bonus, Fortification +202%, Parrying +9, Physical Sheltering +50, Profane Well Rounded +2, Empty Green Augment Slot , Silent Avenger Set (Legendary) Pain, the Half of Whole (Dagger1) 5.5[1d4.3]+15, 19-20/x2, Fetters of Unreality (vulnerability), Improved Deception, Sovereign Vorpal, Deception 17, Empty Purple Augment Slot , Empty Red Augment Slot , Pain and Suffering Set Suffering, the Half of Whole (Dagger2) 5[1d4+3]+15, 19-20/x2, Piercing 9, Constricting Nightmare, Wounding 5, Metalline, Empty Orange Augment Slot , Empty Red Augment Slot , Pain and Suffering Set Will have True Globe of Imperial Blood Augment, and Festival +2 INT to make up for the lack of Quality INT item Added: Kinda hoping Sharn update has a nice replacement item with useful Rogue Skills and qINT fingers crossed
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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1207 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #23 - Jan 9^th, 2019 at 7:31am	Print Post
	Ran into a (not so) interesting problem. Had that old +20 Heart in my Cache (along with the Raiders Box and all that other stuff)... so went ahead and did my lesser TR to build this character. Only setback I had in THAT was I failed to recognize I only had 1 maxed Sphere in my Destinies. So instead of taking Dire Charge like I wanted, I settled for Holy Strike. Went in and used my bottle to port to Ravenloft. Need to grab exchange some Runes for the items I settled on. Can't brink up the Rune exchange page because I was ready to go into both raids a few days ago but the runs were cancelled. So now I cant buy anything until after I run the damn Raids?? Put in a ticket asking for help.. was online for about 4 hours just tinkering with gear loadouts... little red tag pops up. I've got an update on my ticket. I pop it open... it's closed...."We were unable to assist you with your issues as you were not online blah blah blah." WTF??� � Will try again today after work Whats the most effective Filigree setup to put on Pain? I'm thinking... Celerity: INT+Dodge/Max+Reflex Treachery: INT+Crit Confirm+Hide+Threat Redux PS: limited testing has revealed nothing interesting, it's so very very very slow.. SO disappointing, never mind all
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Fast Sneaker Reply #24 - Jan 9^th, 2019 at 11:34am	Print Post
	18/1/1 tempest seems like the way to go to me. I don't know if it would outrun a sprint boosting monk though.

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