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Inquisitor Ideas
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What do you guys think of the
new tree?
The current endless fusillade build build is like 10 rogue / 6 fighter / 4 arti.
With the inquisitor tree you can drop the fighter since you don't need the multi. I suppose sniper shot is the best replacement if you want to keep the endless fusilade enhancement. So... 10 rogue / 6 fighter / 4 arit.
If you want to drop arti you can get more SA range from 12 rogue, but IDK if that is worth it. What do you guys think? Anyone dps test the new shit?
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Re: Inquisitor Ideas
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote
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What do you guys think of the
new tree?
The current endless fusillade build build is like 10 rogue / 6 fighter / 4 arti.
With the inquisitor tree you can drop the fighter since you don't need the multi. I suppose sniper shot is the best replacement if you want to keep the endless fusilade enhancement. So... 10 rogue / 6 fighter / 4 arit.
If you want to drop arti you can get more SA range from 12 rogue, but IDK if that is worth it. What do you guys think? Anyone dps test the new shit?
Better to dual wield or single+swash?
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Re: Inquisitor Ideas
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Re: Inquisitor Ideas
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11 rogue / 6 ranger / 3 arti
AP
41 Inquisitor
12 Harper (KTA + Int to attack and Damage)
1 Mechanic (5m ranged sneak attack range)
11 deepwood stalker (sniper shot, 15m ranged sneak attack range)
11 assassin (assassin's trick)
3 thief acrobat (movement speed)
79 AP spent
Fusilade is so fucking expensive. I don't really see a way to fit it in without dropping KTA or some shit---and then you're ranged SA range is gonna be shit. If you want fusilade, might as well go for enough arti for int to damage from there.
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20 artificer or 14 rogue 6 artificer (or some mix)
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41 Inquisitor
8 Harper (KTA, int to hit)
25 Battle Engineer (Endless Fusilade)
74 AP spent
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Tier 1: Ranger, Bard, Artificer, Fighter
All of these classes bring something. Will have multiple pure and multiclass options that are respectable.
Tier 2: Wizard, Cleric, Soul
They get enough combat options to not suck. Might be a decent hybrid build or two.
Tier 3: Lock, Barb, Sorc
Really struggling to find something useful. Flavor builds best used only for leveling.
Tier 4: Druid, Monk, Paladin
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Trollero wrote
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Tier 1: Ranger, Bard, Artificer, Fighter
All of these classes bring something. Will have multiple pure and multiclass options that are respectable.
Tier 2: Wizard, Cleric, Soul
They get enough combat options to not suck. Might be a decent hybrid build or two.
Tier 3: Lock, Barb, Sorc
Really struggling to find something useful. Flavor builds best used only for leveling.
Tier 4: Druid, Monk, Paladin
Do you hate yourself?
You left out rogue, started testing tonight some neat data I'll wrap it up tomorrow
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Trollero wrote
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Tier 3: Lock, Barb, Sorc
Really struggling to find something useful. Flavor builds best used only for leveling.
Lock and Sorc at the very least have synergy with tiefling Inquisitive.
And sorcs on par with Wiz EK: arguably better die scaling due to savant.
Lock gives you the light damage on both hands which is decent and you can get the temp HP aura as well.
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Re: Inquisitor Ideas
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Personally I'm thinking 15 arti, 4 FVS, 1 bard.
Deadly, arti bonus feats, smite, flourish, silence, and blow by blow.
Gives you plenty of +W clickies with varying useful effects. AP might be a bit tight though.
Holy Sniper and Arcane Engine is 20% doubleshot.
Smite will give you vulnerable.
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That crit profile on Ratchatcher. Dayum.
This new tree is inspired by the middle gif in your signature lol.
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Edrein wrote
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Lock and Sorc at the very least have synergy with tiefling Inquisitive.
And sorcs on par with Wiz EK: arguably better die scaling due to savant.
Lock gives you the light damage on both hands which is decent and you can get the temp HP aura as well.
And Barb can get an extra range or multiplier. It doesn't change the fact that they don't belong in tier 2 or 4.
How are you getting enough aps to go up EK tree, Inq, Savant, and get a stat to damage? Or the wiz bonus feats? Sorc can't get a good ranged build and be a good caster. Wiz can do Inq/EK/Harper.
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Trollero wrote
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And Barb can get an extra range or multiplier. It doesn't change the fact that they don't belong in tier 2 or 4.
How are you getting enough aps to go up EK tree, Inq, Savant, and get a stat to damage? Or the wiz bonus feats? Sorc can't get a good ranged build and be a good caster. Wiz can do Inq/EK/Harper.
Iirc you don't get a stat to damage bonus on crossbows. (I could 100% be wrong though, I haven't played any sort of ranged let alone a plinker in years.)
You really only want to spend around 10-15 points in savant for some low hanging fruit bonuses. Likewise, you don't really want to spend that much in EK unless you want to go full retard on the spellsword die that you won't be getting the capstone for.
I'll grant you the caster feats. But to be honest if I'm playing an EK of either class I'm not being too serious about my casting and more about my damage while pumping spellsword die.
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10 rogue/6 ranger/4 arti
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37 -> inqusitor assault+optimistic+immunity+core 5
25 -> battle engineer endless fusilade + 10% doubleshot
11 -> sniper shot DWS
7 -> KTA Harper
nothing beats that and you absolutely have to take fusilade to max your dps with crossbows or don't even bother.
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Edrein wrote
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Iirc you don't get a stat to damage bonus on crossbows. (I could 100% be wrong though, I haven't played any sort of ranged let alone a plinker in years.)
Not inherently but you can add int to damage via Arti (spell) Mechanic, Harper (Enhancement) I would imagine Falconry works fine too
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yardarm_ wrote
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10 rogue/6 ranger/4 arti
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37 -> inqusitor assault+optimistic+immunity+core 5
25 -> battle engineer endless fusilade + 10% doubleshot
11 -> sniper shot DWS
7 -> KTA Harper
nothing beats that and you absolutely have to take fusilade to max your dps with crossbows or don't even bother.
You need more arti levels then for insightful strikes
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yardarm_ wrote
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10 rogue/6 ranger/4 arti
AP:
37 -> inqusitor assault+optimistic+immunity+core 5
25 -> battle engineer endless fusilade + 10% doubleshot
11 -> sniper shot DWS
7 -> KTA Harper
nothing beats that and you absolutely have to take fusilade to max your dps with crossbows or don't even bother.
put that 37 into mech and grab a volley.
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If the game mechanic works where each hand fires it's own missile then this clearly favors procs on hit to make use of the attack speed.
Why even bother with any arti levels at all if you already get a fusi-type ability that shares a cooldown and number of uses in the Inq tree? 25ap seems a bit steep for 10 ranged power, 10 double shot, and 4 class levels.
I'd think a mostly pure rogue or EK would be bring the best benefits to the table. Can make a case for 6 ranger too I suppose but I'm not sure 3 sneak die and 6 off levels is going to be better. All I really know is swapping around classes/ap in an attempt to stick with the current fusi build is not going to be anywhere near optimal.
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dont like it so far, it looks neat as hell.
red name single target best time I could get on red name dummy was at least 34 seconds longer than my current live build and that was cheesing it using archers focus for more ranged power.
Now that is testing using the shitty anniversary xbow, compared to my live weapon set being optimized. With Sharn if there are better xbows could change the game.
The animation is cool at least.
I tested rogue builds, didnt try out artis/rangers/bards.
law dice and or chaos dice is garbage imo.
honestly imo if you want to use xbow go mech or arti and the great xbow, no huge selling points on the new tree other than the cool look of double xbows(best thing going for it).
again, all that said, sharn loot may change this.
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Rubbinns wrote
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put that 37 into mech and grab a volley.
I dunno.
Was thinking about a DWS based Inquisitor last night but it seems to me that there is a conflict of interest between building for Sniper Shot building for Fusilade.
Sniper shot is essentially a single high damage shot which pairs best with FotW.
Endless Fusilade is essentially a machine gun firing lots of normal damage shots which has far more synergy with Blitz or maybe even Shadowdancer for high SA builds.
I suspect you'd be better off to choose one path or the other and min/max it rather than trying to do both.
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the inquisitive fusillade is better than the arti fusillade, the animation seems alot quicker
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Cripey wrote
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the inquisitive fusillade is better than the arti fusillade, the animation seems alot quicker
You can cancel the starting animation by swapping a scroll. Problem is sentient is needed on activation for the deadly rain buff. Having a second sentient weapon with deadly rain for the activation and then swapping to a more ranged power + doubleshot focused version of a sentient Volley, would shave off some time and allow more dps uptime under boosts.
There are no good heavy or light crossbows right now. Volley has retarded base dice and vacuum. Mech tier 5 Reloader is a serious boost to the amount of bolts fired. It is the only thing that counts for fusilades.
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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Rubbinns wrote
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You can cancel the starting animation by swapping a scroll. Problem is sentient is needed on activation for the deadly rain buff. Having a second sentient weapon with deadly rain for the activation and then swapping to a more ranged power + doubleshot focused version of a sentient Volley, would shave off some time and allow more dps uptime under boosts.
There are no good heavy or light crossbows right now. Volley has retarded base dice and vacuum. Mech tier 5 Reloader is a serious boost to the amount of bolts fired. It is the only thing that counts for fusilades.
reloader is in the inq tree also
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EDIT: BTW I love your post. It reads as if English is your 3rd language behind gibberish and dipshit.
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Cripey wrote
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reloader is in the inq tree also
Goddamit... rerolling.
You should check max dps with AF stacks up and LD stacked. Symb was doing around 26k with the 10/6/4 Volley. If reloader and fusilade are there then the build is free to drop everything. Interesting.
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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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The build is still reliant on Int to damage and always needs the to hit. Rogue level 6 core, arty level 6 spell, or 12 harper ap. Int to hit is only in the harper tree at tier 1.
Rogue is probably still best as the ap spent to tier 4 are decent value, and Int to damage cannot be dispelled, and weapon swaps are completely unaffected.
Harper 12 ap, and Inquisitor tier 5 and capstones seem the only other way to structure the build while allowing any class shell. Occult Slayer critical modifier at 50% hit points seemed like the only real way to stack another critical modifier on the build. Harper 12 ap ensures that any other level 18 or 20 capstones cannot be selected in conjunction with Fusilade and Reloader.
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Mockduck wrote
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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Better to dual wield or single+swash?
might have problems swashing with it possibly since copy goes in off hand?
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