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Reply #25 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 5:27am
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Frank wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:05pm:
The point is to identify ways to run racials or heroic lives. 



"AND have fun with it" .... i would add.

Because i dont see point ind finding the best heroic build but be bored for 30 lives Cheesy
Thats why i personally mix in some lives that are suboptimal for that job (like pure assasin) but have fun with it Wink
  
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Reply #26 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:16am
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imanoob wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 12:52am:
The only advantage of 10 warlock/10 whatever is lack of gearing. Pure classes, geared decently (even cannith crafting will get you there) will be superior.


Don't discount that Advantage.
Having to create only 1 set of crafted gear to run 30 lives definitely helps out the speed and convenience.

If you are playing a different class/build type each time, then you will spend lots of time crafting items and then playing the inventory management game.

If  you are going to do the "I'm only going to run 30 lives as my project and nothing else", then you can:
1) Create 3 or 4 sets of crafted gear at various levels to swap to for power increases.  All will be BTA

2) Empty out your reincarnation cache of crap you are never going to use... put all BTA stuff you won't be using on the next 30 lives on to a mule toon somewhere.  And take a hard look at all that BTC crap you keep saving because maybe, just maybe it might be useful in the future... if you haven't use it in a year, then just toss it.

3) Then buy 100 potions (not from the Guild vendor because those BTC) of Lesser Restore, Remove Curse, Remove Disease, Poison Neutralization, Remove Blindness, CSW) and put them in your inventory.

4) Buy 50 charge wand of fireball (for Inferno of Damned and maybe for Siegebreaker tents). 
5) Buy 100 scrolls of Sleet Storm for Inferno
6) Buy 100 Stone to Flesh for the Medusa quest in Lordsmarch (you don't have to go into the library to get the salve if you can Stone to Flesh)
7) Get other scrolls you might use
8) Buy 1000 (not from guild vendor) of all the Warlock spell components you will need).

8) empty out your Shared Bank account to ONLY items that this toon will use.  Put them on mules for later.

When you put your crafted gear into the shared bank for this toon, put it all in by level...e.g if you craft a full set of gear for level 10, then put all level 10 gear in at the same time so it is all together.

Now as you level, you have those 3 or 4 levels where you will run to the bank and empty out your old set of crafted gear off your toon, then grab the next set for the level you just hit.

When it becomes time to reincarnate at 20, you empty all you current BTA gear into the Shared Account, and the 10 or so items that are BTC, you put in your personal bank.


Now, go research and download a script for recording mouse and keystrokes and you can setup a script to empty out your Reincarnation cache so after you empty everything into Shared Bank and your personal bank, you can start that script while you go make a sandwich and come back when your cache is empty.

Go reincarnate.

After you reincarnate, quickly grab all the gear from Cache that you will need for that character for the 20 levels and either put it in your inventory or if you won't use it for 10+ levels in your personal bank.  Leave everything NOT needed for this life in Reincarnation cache.

Go to shared bank and grab all the potions, scrolls, wands, components, that litany sigil, etc and put them in your inventory at LEVEL 1.  Trust me, you will forget later as you level up.
Get all your gear you'll need for those low levels  (I only crafted level 2 and level 3 scepters for Warlock Acid, Impulse and Light (need impulse at 2 and light at 3 when you get Utterdark).   I had a level 1 set of Grundok boots with a master's gift in it... most of my slots were empty until I hit level 5... but I know some people may craft a full set of level 3 gear.. that's fine.

I usually had enough XP stones from daily dice rolls to get me to level 2 at least as soon as I started.

Boom!  Now you are ready to go.  As you hit the next level for crafted gear, you just run to the bank.
1) Pull off everything you are currently wearing using and throw in Shared bank.
2) Grab everything from shared bank for next level (and since you put it all in there at the same time, it is all in sequence so you don't have to waste time searching for each piece.
3) Check your personal bank for any BTC items you might want to use (really I had in there was Voice, Mantle, 10 charge necklace from Necropolis for negative absorption, and my PLIS).

You will save tons of time during leveling and especially during the gruelling recincarnation process.

Also if you don't know how to use:
\ui layout Save <layoutname> and
\ui layout Load <layoutname>
You should learn it.
That will get all your toolbars and other UI objects loaded to the same place each time you reincarnate.


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Re: Leveling quickly on low dps lives?
Reply #27 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:21am
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Petik wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 5:27am:
"AND have fun with it" .... i would add.

Because i dont see point ind finding the best heroic build but be bored for 30 lives Cheesy
Thats why i personally mix in some lives that are suboptimal for that job (like pure assasin) but have fun with it Wink


Dude, DDO isn't for fun!  Smiley
  
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Reply #28 - May 1st, 2019 at 12:36am
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Petik wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 5:27am:
"AND have fun with it" .... i would add.

Because i dont see point ind finding the best heroic build but be bored for 30 lives Cheesy
Thats why i personally mix in some lives that are suboptimal for that job (like pure assasin) but have fun with it Wink



Well, fair enough.  This is a game after all, and we are all just wasting our time playing it instead of writing the next great American novel.  Or whatever.  I'm wasting my time right along with you, so don't look for that novel or anything else of any value from me.

But there is some value in figuring out how to make the most out of your wasted play time.  And running lock or inquisitive lives seems to be at least a fair shot at making the most out of this wasted time.
  

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Digimonk wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 12:39pm:
I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive.


Smart players know how to use buyback.

Digimonk wrote on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 1:58pm:
I will not chone.

I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect.


Smart people don't elicit "side effects."  They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Reply #29 - May 1st, 2019 at 11:12am
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Good grief, why is this thread still alive? 

ManyCookies wrote on Apr 20th, 2019 at 3:06am:
is there any way to level quickly on low dps lives?

The OP led with a retarded, obvious troll question and yet, you suckers are tripping over yourselves to answer it.  The OP claims they're good enough that they constantly have to carry all the pugs that join their group and solo everything, yet they don't know the answer to that question?  Really?  Roll Eyes

So they ask how to level quickly, which by the very nature of DDO's design obviously requires killing large amounts of mobs as quickly as possible, with a shitty, low-DPS build? 

There are only three reasonable answers to this question. 
1) Otto's box / XP stone
2) Get a group of players who don't run low DPS builds carry you
3) Don't run a low DPS build.
The end. 

Every proposed suggestion following the OP's post is just a rebadged version of #1 or #2.

Worse, he even shows he already knows that two of the valid to his stupid question are #1 and #2 in his original post.
ManyCookies wrote on Apr 20th, 2019 at 3:06am:
Short of lucking out and finding a great group to run with  when leveling in heroics (pretty rare these days)... Can't afford ottos by the way


The fact that he qualified the question by excluding high DPS builds indirectly indicates that he also already knows the other valid option is #3.

He might as well have asked, "hey guys, how do I level fast without being carried, without killing mobs, without completing missions, and without spending $$/points?".

He probably goes around asking people how to win the lottery without buying tickets, too.
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Reply #30 - May 1st, 2019 at 5:56pm
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Frank wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 12:36am:
This is a game after all, and we are all just wasting our time playing it instead of writing the next great American novel.

That's not a waste. Next Great American Novel prevention is a valuable service! Can you imagine how many of those fucking things'd be floating around otherwise?
  

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Reply #31 - May 1st, 2019 at 6:03pm
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Revaulting wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 5:56pm:
That's not a waste. Next Great American Novel prevention is a valuable service! Can you imagine how many of those fucking things'd be floating around otherwise?

Yeah, for similar reasons I'm thankful for SSG, can you imagine how fucked we'd be if those ass-clowns were hired to program flight control software for ... oh, wait a minute  Undecided
  

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Reply #32 - May 1st, 2019 at 6:10pm
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Meursault wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 6:03pm:
Yeah, for similar reasons I'm thankful for SSG, can you imagine how fucked we'd be if those ass-clowns were hired to Slurpee machine software for ... oh, wait a minute  Undecided


Fixed that to take into account the kind of aptitude tests they might pass.
  
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Reply #33 - May 1st, 2019 at 6:32pm
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Shinyshoes wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 6:10pm:
Fixed that to take into account the kind of aptitude tests they might pass.

Even a joke about an airplane crash goes over your head....
  

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Reply #34 - May 1st, 2019 at 6:59pm
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Digimonk wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 11:12am:
There are only three reasonable answers to this question. 
1) Otto's box / XP stone
2) Get a group of players who don't run low DPS builds carry you
3) Don't run a low DPS build.


Some classes are kind of shitty for leveling. Asking how to turn a shitty class past life into a not-shitty build.  Seems like a reasonable question. A lot of us can probably carry pugs just fine in R1 content while leveling on our preferred class. That doesn't mean we can automatically turn a fairly crappy class into decent DPS to the point where you can level easily and comfortably.

So number 3 was just asking how do you get past lives on a mediocre class and turn it into a decent build?
  
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Reply #35 - May 1st, 2019 at 11:54pm
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NOTpopejubal wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 6:59pm:
Some classes are kind of shitty for leveling. Asking how to turn a shitty class past life into a not-shitty build.  Seems like a reasonable question. A lot of us can probably carry pugs just fine in R1 content while leveling on our preferred class. That doesn't mean we can automatically turn a fairly crappy class into decent DPS to the point where you can level easily and comfortably.

So number 3 was just asking how do you get past lives on a mediocre class and turn it into a decent build?

Except that's not what he asked. 

He asked how to level quickly on a low dps build.  He didn't even provide details on which class he wanted to run.

If he had asked, "I need to do cleric PLs and I end up soloing or having to carrying pugs, so what cleric build should I run that can do enough DPS to level fast?", it'd be an entirely different story.
  
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Revaulting wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 6:32pm:
Even a joke about an airplane crash goes over your head....


Yeah sorry joking about Boeing is like picking on a retarded kid.
If SSG had been involved the aircraft wouldn't have taken off due to take-off bug.
  
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Reply #37 - May 2nd, 2019 at 4:40am
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don't you mean nobody would have been able to board the plane due to a ladder bug?
  
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Reply #38 - May 4th, 2019 at 2:31pm
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NOTpopejubal wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 6:59pm:
Some classes are kind of shitty for leveling.

If you think that maybe better ask for help with particular class ? Because for r1 heroics I really can't think of any.
  
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Reply #39 - May 10th, 2019 at 7:48pm
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NOTpopejubal wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 6:59pm:
Some classes are kind of shitty for leveling. Asking how to turn a shitty class past life into a not-shitty build.  Seems like a reasonable question.

... how do you get past lives on a mediocre class and turn it into a decent build?


Digi is right that that is not what he asked. However it probably is what he meant. If it is, I answered it several posts ago.

Right now any class, any race, can make a B+ to A+ dps build by going 41 Inquisitive, 12 Harper or 27 Falconer and the rest is whatever. Any class.

Right now I'm back on my favorite druid build. My feats are quicken and 3xNatural fighting. On a lark I took improved crit ranged and have gone full Inquisitive at level 12 and 13. I'm soloing gianthold on R3 no problem and I literally have only 1 ranged feat. Literally any other class adds more to ranged than druid does as well.
  
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Reply #40 - May 13th, 2019 at 6:13pm
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Ulysses wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 7:48pm:
Any class.

Except Boeing's. Though falconer would be the right name for their build. Since it's about taking birds out of the sky.

Shinyshoes wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 3:41am:
Yeah sorry joking about Boeing is like picking on a retarded kid.

Wrong. Boeing is lower-hanging fruit.
  

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Reply #41 - May 18th, 2019 at 8:48pm
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Revaulting wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 6:13pm:
Except Boeing's. Though falconer would be the right name for their build. Since it's about taking birds out of the sky.

Wrong. Boeing is lower-hanging fruit.

Plus, it's not the retarded kid's fault he's retarded. Boeing isn't the victim, they took an SSG style gamble on software quality but the results were more immediately obvious.
  

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Reply #42 - May 19th, 2019 at 5:02am
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Idk how others do it but il write the most effective method for me. For specific past lifes.


Play on 2 chars or have a friend who bots 2.
Early levels get a keen of vorpal repet and play on xbow alt til lv 10ish.
2nd account warlock, pick up from 10 and above and solo til 20.
Thats phase 1 of racial life setup.

Phase 2 is to have a alt capable to solo r 4 5ish legendaries.
Warlock alt on 2ndary account works well for this.

Modificications is to play as sorc wlock in higj levels and 2 xbow users in lowbies.



As for normal plifes. Still 3 accounts.
Main where you do whatver clas you need.
2nd for xbow.
3rd sorc or wlock for high levels.

With new sharn stuff both warlock and sorc are amazing.


I do it a bit different in practice since i duo with friend and we have 5 chars active in quests and do high reaper heroics

There are more modifications here tho
  
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Reply #43 - May 23rd, 2019 at 3:49am
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I went to a necro dungeon once and it was all swimming

so I left and never went back

so im clueless on necro
  
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Reply #44 - May 23rd, 2019 at 2:02pm
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The swimming one is probably the easiest one once you know how to navigate it.
  

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Reply #45 - Jun 1st, 2019 at 4:46am
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Inquisitor with ratcatcher....with the ghostbane augment.


  
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