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Re: Is "Gilga1" the #1 Player in DDO?
Reply #175 - Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:34pm
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Wipe wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 6:15pm:
The melee r 8 - 10 play now with edf, 2.5k hp and 200+ prr toons is not much different or harder than old epics Gianthold or High Road or DA at 25 or 28, before prr and all that nonsense.




exactly the point, I'd say it is even easier than old days because what I see is just a guy hitting some helpless trash and clicking a heal to full button once in a while. It seems that this is what Grand didn't perceive and that's why he thinks the guy is cheating. Heals and CC, that is all it takes to complete reaper and this is why bard is actually one of the best classes for soloing it, unlike people are suggesting that it is more difficult

Wipe wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 6:15pm:
It's not about the past lives. Same players that were awesome years ago.
Just way more clueless people with 50 lives or racial pletionists .


True that you can contribute with a fresh character with few investiment and you don't need the pls and reaper xp, but when talking about top tier it is whole another story, now makes a dramatic difference that undeniably did not exist previously. Now I find it really funny that there are some people and guilds full of broken builds with wings/racial etc but still struggle to complete raids on difficulties that were long ago beaten without any of that

ILoveExploits wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 6:09pm:
The problem is when twitching is so good that play anything else dont worth it.


Point is that twitching don't make all that difference with swf like it does for thf, in any case that isn't a factor that is changing the possibility to complete a task on a build or not.
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Re: Is "Gilga1" the #1 Player in DDO?
Reply #176 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 2:08pm
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Not one R10 solo on melee, even with a character that has 100+ reaper ap, is easier than solos on ee at 28. And even 25.

You guys are tripping. Many things one shot, even a character with 3k hp and 250 prr. Shiradi champs are harder than any single trash mob ever seen in this game before. Nothing really one shot before reaper. Especially not mundane trash mobs in every quest.

If the devs were smart, they would make R11 with only warded shiradi champs. Even if they miss, or the spell gets evaded, the damage still procs and/or DoTs. Even after the cooldown on dots was fixed, these champs are still the most dangerous mobs in a quest.

And you can twitch with swf and wolves. It will increase your dps times.

What you all are seeing in the video is Vinny moving, while attacking, so that he gets better position on mobs, and he takes away the mob's attack range by not being in their line of attack. He isn't twitching to twitch. He is using superior movement and tactics. The guy is an incredibly strategic melee. 
  

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Re: Is "Gilga1" the #1 Player in DDO?
Reply #177 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 3:47pm
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Didn't one shot before epic vale update, and from it until the release of reaper that happened only in raid, but the healing and cc limitations made the thing harder. With 3300 hp I'm not seeing anything that can one shot there, not even close to cut half bar, except that boss that has a particular reputation.

Since they released lays with aasimar, soloing high skulls became very standart. In the future r10 will become. They should have released r11+ diff that debuffs reaper trees as people were suggesting years ago since reaper was released.
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Re: Is "Gilga1" the #1 Player in DDO?
Reply #178 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 4:18pm
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Depends what hits you and what buffs the shiradi champs have. Vaultaccount wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 3:47pm:
With 3300 hp I'm not seeing anything that can one shot there, not even close to cut half bar, except that boss that has a particular reputation.

Depends on the champ buffs. He took around 2k damage from a shiradi champ at the shrine, right before the end fight door. It was around 1.2k Physical damage and another 800 in dots and procs. That was actually more than half his bar. While not a true "one shot" directly, it is close enough that you can die when coupled with the lack of self healing. He only has a few Kingly Recovery charges, and is not aasimar.

Vinci just makes it look easy. That is all. His timing is impeccable. He doesn't panic on dire or freezing. He circle strafes away from active mobs. Waits for mobs to close in so his aoe radius hits maximum targets. He will use Frozen Fury on a single mob, wait for the rest to close in on him and then use Dire. Then he strafes in a circle, while using Spinning Ice to sustain the CC.
  

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Re: Is "Gilga1" the #1 Player in DDO?
Reply #179 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 4:48pm
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He's great. But there are not "shiradi" casters in that quests, if you are seeing the same video I am, I suppose you're talking about the 8:00 moment, those hits were from carnages, each doing about 900 as you can see in the combat chat he let open, the only champ in that pack of mobs was a heroes soul one

edit: btw this is twitch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWwZ8s6IOlU. I think it's great to the game because it is something that is actually hard to do and it pays you back, it is beautiful to see and the guy from this channel is master in that

You move and stop at right moments to break the thf animation in order to get single target dps. Just moving and attacking =/= twitch, and it doesn't help with non-thf styles
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Re: Is "Gilga1" the #1 Player in DDO?
Reply #180 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 6:20pm
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Vaultaccount wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 4:48pm:
But there are not "shiradi" casters in that quests

I call them shiradi champs because of the on hit/miss damage procs, and on hit/miss DoT procs. Not actual MM shiradi casters.

Vaultaccount wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 4:48pm:
it doesn't help with non-thf styles

100% wrong. Try to measure your dps on a kobold. With and without twitching. SWF and even wolves dps increases by twitching. I think even monk with handwraps could benefit.
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Re: Is "Gilga1" the #1 Player in DDO?
Reply #181 - Jul 23rd, 2019 at 5:36am
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Rubbinns wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 6:20pm:
I think even monk with handwraps could benefit.

(Without precise measurement) as far as I can tell, they do. It benefits anything where breaking the attack anim yields quicker hits than waiting on the full attack anim, which includes Monks. Or did last I tried.
  
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Re: Is "Gilga1" the #1 Player in DDO?
Reply #182 - Jul 23rd, 2019 at 7:05pm
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Go away for a few days and a homo pillow fight breaks out. Nice read, retards. Bravo.
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Reply #183 - Jul 23rd, 2019 at 11:36pm
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Gunga wrote on Jul 23rd, 2019 at 7:05pm:
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Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #184 - Jul 24th, 2019 at 12:17am
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We smothered me and used my necrotically enhanced penis to sate the gods of DPS.
  

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Reply #185 - Jul 26th, 2019 at 1:50pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 2:08pm:
And you can twitch with swf and wolves. It will increase your dps times.

What you all are seeing in the video is Vinny moving, while attacking, so that he gets better position on mobs, and he takes away the mob's attack range by not being in their line of attack. He isn't twitching to twitch. He is using superior movement and tactics. The guy is an incredibly strategic melee. 


So I showed this thread to an old friend who's quitted DDO but was one of the best melee players in the game in his time and he told me there is no such thing as "taking away the mobs attack range by not being in their line of attack"
(He explained it's called LOS, line of sight)
He characterized the above quoted text as a terrible explanation.

There is tho something else which is propably what Rubinns meant, that you can evade mob attacks by moving out of their attack-animation right before their hit lands. That can be done by moving left-right whilst attacking, which to many people looks like twitching and with some melee forms like SWF it actually also improved your attack speed.

He says it's very hard to intentionally dodge mob attacks on every mob, because there is no "warning/indicator" to when a mob will perform an attack-animation. So instead you can simply do what Vincino showed in his video, aka the "SWF twitching" and you're most likely going to dodge a lot of hits and also boost your dps.

Abusing/exploiting LOS is apparently another thing and works great with a tank in the team when the tank positions the mobs correctly in a corner and then the tank positions himself on one side of the corner with the mobs aggroed to him and the rest of the group flanks the mobs on the other side of the cornern.
Apparently it was rarely used because dungeon alert was fucked up back then, tanks weren't so popular till reaper came out and LOS tactics worked much better in other MMOs.

Also laughed his ass off when he read the last part about superior movement and tactics and incredible strategic melee player. This trick is old and used to be common knowledge to most pro-melee players. "There is no incredible strategy", it's just player skills, build strength and getting the hang of melee playstyle.
  
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Reply #186 - Jul 26th, 2019 at 1:56pm
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Had to copy some of the text we wrote for him, the guys is apparently banned in the Vault for some old drama where a mod thought he was a sock for revealing a snitchers name for some exploit shit.
At least I learned a crapload about the combat of a game that both of us don't play anymore  Grin Grin
  
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Reply #187 - Jul 26th, 2019 at 5:44pm
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teeuser wrote on Jul 26th, 2019 at 1:50pm:
So I showed this thread to an old friend who's quitted DDO but was one of the best melee players in the game in his time and he told me there is no such thing as "taking away the mobs attack range by not being in their line of attack"
(He explained it's called LOS, line of sight)
He characterized the above quoted text as a terrible explanation.

There is tho something else which is propably what Rubinns meant, that you can evade mob attacks by moving out of their attack-animation right before their hit lands. That can be done by moving left-right whilst attacking, which to many people looks like twitching and with some melee forms like SWF it actually also improved your attack speed.

He says it's very hard to intentionally dodge mob attacks on every mob, because there is no "warning/indicator" to when a mob will perform an attack-animation. So instead you can simply do what Vincino showed in his video, aka the "SWF twitching" and you're most likely going to dodge a lot of hits and also boost your dps.

Abusing/exploiting LOS is apparently another thing and works great with a tank in the team when the tank positions the mobs correctly in a corner and then the tank positions himself on one side of the corner with the mobs aggroed to him and the rest of the group flanks the mobs on the other side of the cornern.
Apparently it was rarely used because dungeon alert was fucked up back then, tanks weren't so popular till reaper came out and LOS tactics worked much better in other MMOs.

Also laughed his ass off when he read the last part about superior movement and tactics and incredible strategic melee player. This trick is old and used to be common knowledge to most pro-melee players. "There is no incredible strategy", it's just player skills, build strength and getting the hang of melee playstyle.


So, in other words, Rubs described what your boyfriend used to do. Go away dumdum.
  

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Reply #188 - Jul 26th, 2019 at 6:03pm
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teeuser wrote on Jul 26th, 2019 at 1:56pm:
Re: Is "Gilga1" the #1 Player in DDO?    Had to copy some of the text we wrote for him, the guys is apparently banned in the Vault for some old drama where a mod thought he was a sock for revealing a snitchers name for some exploit shit.
At least I learned a crapload about the combat of a game that both of us don't play anymore  Grin Grin 

Oh, so you and your friend are socks, and retarded, and not so slightly non-gay. Nice.
  

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Reply #189 - Jul 29th, 2019 at 7:20pm
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Wow. Sometimes not being interested in DDO has its detriments.

I was wondering why I was getting PMs about Rubby Grin
  
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Reply #190 - Jul 29th, 2019 at 7:32pm
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Wouldn't you wonder when you weren't getting PMs about Rubby?
  
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Reply #191 - Jul 29th, 2019 at 9:48pm
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Shinyshoes wrote on Jul 29th, 2019 at 7:32pm:
Wouldn't you wonder when you weren't getting PMs about Rubby?

Well, these were PMs about Rubby having PMS, see.
  
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Reply #192 - Jul 30th, 2019 at 3:53pm
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Strake wrote on Jul 29th, 2019 at 9:48pm:
Well, these were PMs about Rubby having PMS, see.

my vag was dry, I'll have you know. TYVM
  

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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #193 - Jul 31st, 2019 at 2:12pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Jul 30th, 2019 at 3:53pm:
my vag was dry, I'll have you know. TYVM

No surprise there with all these socks trying to jam themselves into it.  Used to be the vault was filled with dumbshits and retards but there was an equal or larger population of reasonable people and the retards didn't hide... I guess it's sort of the same now, 5 dumbshits with 40 sock accounts and about 5 reasonable people.  True story bro, the names have be changed to protect something, probably parent's basements...
  
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