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Re: Is "Gilga1" the #1 Player in DDO?
Reply #75 - Jul 17th, 2019 at 2:43pm
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teeuser wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 9:15am:
Before joining GODS, I used to think that ppl like Steelio/Vinc/Dioph were god-level due to their fame and my lack of acquaintances back then, but later realized the difference between actually doing a TR and using a stone to skip it.
I saw the difference between Steelio overperforming on his meta, forever-monkcher toon and Elihor soloing Curse the Sky/Sewers on a barb right on realease and then again in reaper difficulty or Trobas beating them on the kill count in LE shroud without even taking it seriously and also afking midfight on a random Bard-Shuriken past life.


Exactly, there are some guys who are just overpowered given the current situation this game allows. The best players of this game were people like cetus, sestra, sithali, eth, redsonja, ellie, ruymajin, frets, shatan, zoda, kokaisa and cowstalker among others. To this day you have people coming back and saying one of these guys inspired them to do play something and wanting to be like them. What they can do, these guys with everything-pl can't.

teeuser wrote on Jun 29th, 2019 at 10:09am:
I believe Dazling quitted right before reaper came out, I remember a couple of LE Shrouds and Slaver runs with him.
Trobas has guaranteed either been perma-banned or has quitted on his own, he told me he would.
Really cool dudes, you would have no doubt of their skill had you played with them. The guy managed in less than a year to go from zero, completely new toon to maxing almost all PLs, before racials came out.
He's the only player so far I've seen competing with Nokills and Fatii in terms of TR speed, no stones.

About Walruss and Eli... don't know if they've gone soft. A simple google search will show you that Elihor is still posting solo reaper videos, which means he hasn't turned casual.


Dazling quited, trobas was permabanned and my last information is that elie was permabanned as well this year
  
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Re: Is "Gilga1" the #1 Player in DDO?
Reply #76 - Jul 17th, 2019 at 3:36pm
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Vaultaccount wrote on Jul 17th, 2019 at 2:43pm:
What they can do, these guys with everything-pl can't.

You're mistaken if you think that people who put in that much work are somehow behind, in today's game, against players who have been gone for years.

Vinci solo'd Grim r10 on a bard. Match that and then you get to pop shit. Otherwise, nigga please
  

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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #77 - Jul 17th, 2019 at 4:10pm
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Let's be honest though, even if we ignore a lot of weird shit from those vids, Vic's build is not centered around the amount of bard levels in it hardly at all. It could have probably just as well been an arti symbol for all the fucks it mattered.
  
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Re: Is "Gilga1" the #1 Player in DDO?
Reply #78 - Jul 17th, 2019 at 8:03pm
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even if we ignore a lot of weird shit from those vids

Weird, how? In what way, and what exactly was weird?

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not centered around the amount of bard levels in it hardly at all. It could have probably just as well been an arti symbol for all the fucks it mattered.


I guess. He uses Otto's touch on Reapers. The tier 5 Kingly Recovery for emergency heals. Charisma based PDK, and the tier 5 for Spinning Ice. Though he could get every thing he used from less Bard levels. His Ice DC probably wouldn't even suffer from dropping 6 or so points.
  

Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #79 - Jul 17th, 2019 at 9:18pm
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The weirdest thing from his vids, is how the mobs wait till he attacks them to aggro. I thought maybe he was using invis but even then at no point did they try to search for him, reapers or no.
  
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Re: Is "Gilga1" the #1 Player in DDO?
Reply #80 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 8:21am
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Ok Tronky and vinci are great players but lets be honest, they just can perform so well in a pal or bard because Twitching.

If you dont like or cant do that the dps goes way down.

Not even commenting the 120 reaper points.
  

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Reply #81 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 8:41am
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The twitching is another thing entirely that isn't as much something that i don't know that exists, is that there are ways to create attack animation canceling macros to vastly overperform with a melee toon. I'm fairly confident that method is being used primarily by Vinci in his videos.
  
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Re: Is "Gilga1" the #1 Player in DDO?
Reply #82 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 9:22am
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The twitching is another thing entirely that isn't as much something that i don't know that exists, is that there are ways to create attack animation canceling macros to vastly overperform with a melee toon. I'm fairly confident that method is being used primarily by Vinci in his videos.

This is another thing, most of the time they have a super secret they dont tell anyone.

How we can compare builds with so many hidden "features"?
  

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Re: Is "Gilga1" the #1 Player in DDO?
Reply #83 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 9:25am
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Bunch of women in this thread acting like crabs in a bucket, pulling others down because they can't compete at the same level.

If you think twitching is the secret, no wonder you can't solo r10 Grim.
  
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Reply #84 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 9:30am
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Twitching isn't itself a huge secret. What is a not so huge secret is a way to get all the animation canceling benefits of twitching with a macro. If you want someone to show you how it works, ask C/Dispel who's currently on Gland all about it.
  
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Re: Is "Gilga1" the #1 Player in DDO?
Reply #85 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 9:38am
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Carpone wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 9:25am:
Bunch of women in this thread acting like crabs in a bucket, pulling others down because they can't compete at the same level.

If you think twitching is the secret, no wonder you can't solo r10 Grim.

im not attacking your pets Cap, just pointing facts.
Dont need to get mad.
  

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The D&D rules you were familiar with were too simple to understand, so we're continuing our move away from them to needlessly confusing subsystems that will make your play experience less fun and invalidate old builds and loot. We hope you have fun working out what the fuck MRR, PRR, MP, SP, RP, CL, MCL and all the other bullshit we made up whilst drunk means.

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Re: Is "Gilga1" the #1 Player in DDO?
Reply #86 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 2:45pm
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attack animation canceling macros to vastly overperform with a melee toon. I'm fairly confident that method is being used primarily by Vinci in his videos.

Naw.

There is a way to macro attack sequences to increase your attack rate, so that only the first attack animation resolves, in rapid succession. But the animation is telling. So much so that it would appear comical if used in a video because it looks like your character is chopping with its main hand, first attack, over and over, like a chef on meth. I have no doubt you may have seen a few people on Lamania perform it.
  

Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #87 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 2:47pm
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ILoveExploits wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 9:22am:
This is another thing, most of the time they have a super secret they dont tell anyone.

This is false. Vinci, Tronko, all of the guys there, are very transparent. Every thing that they use is in THE FUCKING VIDEO, YOU RETARDS
  

Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #88 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 3:07pm
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So let me get this straight, you understand that there are ways to curtail game mechanics and yet you're like "these guys are totally honest about everything they do" because they said so? I'd make a comparison but Strake might get mad that it'd belong in P&R
  
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Reply #89 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 3:42pm
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Let's be honest though, even if we ignore a lot of weird shit from those vids, Vic's build is not centered around the amount of bard levels in it hardly at all.

This statement calls into question the validity of your build/video analysis skills in general as well as makes any of the subsequent guesses you make about his accomplishment very suspect.

There are multiple indicators in the R10 video of his build having a high amount of bard levels and minimal splash levels.  Said bard levels would in fact be required to do and use several of the abilities and tactics that he does.

I have no doubt that someone who understands the game as well as the video indicates he does could change the build up and do well with an artie icon or whatnot, but that build wouldn't play like the one in the video.

Pretty ironic coming from someone who claims to know and enjoy the bard class.


  
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Reply #90 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 3:53pm
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Digimonk wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 3:42pm:
Amazing amount of words that almost meant something


Go sit down before you hurt yourself, I've seen most of the videos and I'm confident in what I have to say and I don't think you're smart enough to know what half the words you typed mean let alone have the capacity to analyze anything in this game.
  
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Reply #91 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 4:58pm
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curtail game mechanics and yet you're like "these guys are totally honest about everything they do"

The vids are 100% legit. Every thing they use is in the video. There is no "chopping" macro used, and there isn't a super secret button that makes mobs not aggro you...
  

Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #92 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 5:47pm
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Sure. I don't know what else I can really say, this is a game where top players abuse flaws systematically to where there are fewer and fewer each clean up. So. Sure.
  
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Reply #93 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 11:14pm
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Gramh you don't play on Cannith.
Come to Cannith and join a group with one or more Ascendance players.
Rubbins said it in another post, Cap has pulled nearly all the best players on the server into this guild.
They are impressive to see.
  
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Reply #94 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 11:23pm
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I've seen plenty of impressive players in my time hanging around Khyber, and I know what it generally takes to get that way.
  
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Reply #95 - Jul 19th, 2019 at 12:18am
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Basically exploiting in DDO is like sexual harassment. People don't like being accused of it, if the topic comes up people distance themselves from the concept of it, there is no set definition of it, the victims are the only ones whose opinion on the matter of violation really counts, and the victims are scared to speak out on the subject because it's very damaging. The parallels actually continue on out from there, especially that it's a systemic problem that people can be very callous about discussing.
  
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Re: Is "Gilga1" the #1 Player in DDO?
Reply #96 - Jul 19th, 2019 at 3:54am
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Please you guys dont need to get so defensive to protect your boyfriends.

We all know that there is a few things you can do that dont apear in vids.

And again they are great players but it is hard to compare players when you are playing broken builds like wolf or stupid op builds like sorc.

Now you can go back to suck each others tiny dicks.
  

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Reply #97 - Jul 19th, 2019 at 7:02am
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Shinyshoes wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 11:14pm:
Gramh you don't play on Cannith.
Come to Cannith and join a group with one or more Ascendance players.

Gramh deleted his characters because he couldn't be half the player that Vincio is.  Such a pathetic existence to troll a game he used to play just to shit on people's accomplishments. 
  
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Reply #98 - Jul 19th, 2019 at 10:47am
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ILoveExploits wrote on Jul 19th, 2019 at 3:54am:
And again they are great players but it is hard to compare players when you are playing broken builds like wolf or stupid op builds like sorc.

Cool, but we are talking about a Bard video. You autistic motherfucker
  

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Re: Is "Gilga1" the #1 Player in DDO?
Reply #99 - Jul 19th, 2019 at 12:10pm
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