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Reaper HP ~ Can you solo a doom on 10 with meld?
Sep 20th, 2019 at 12:57am
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Tests on Reaper HP were conducted in 3 places.
r10 Madstone Crater (Using the 7 entrance mobs), a level 26 quest on elite with CR 31 Reapers
r10 Records of the Path in Tethyamar (Using the water elementals on the left), a level 33 quest on elite with CR 38 Reapers. This quest level is legendary as opposed to Madstone.
r10 Finding Doris (Swimming past the rioters), a level 34 quest on elite with CR 39 Reapers.

The test was conducted with my sorc using Iceberg. I did about 5.2k damage to a reaper then took a screen shot. I then did a pixel count on the remaining hp. You can divide the iceberg damage by the percentage life taken to find the total life.

(Iceberg Damage) / ((Max hp pixel - Remaining hp pixel) / (Max hp pixel)) = Mob HP

It is very important to note that I was the only one in the quest. Does dungeon scaling effects reaper HP?

Results
For madstone, all reapers (excepting dooms) had ~9.5k hp.
Doom had ~19k hp.

For Memories all reapers (excepting dooms) had 17k hp.
Doom had ~60k hp.

For Dorris the doom had ~66k hp.
On elite this is ~440k hp.

Discussion
Assuming that 66k hp is a reasonable approximation---then you'd need ~30k dps to kill a doom reaper in 15 seconds (or the duration of Meld). Dungeon scaling can double the HP of monsters. For this reason I think that you want group dps of 60k to comfortably handle doom reapers in Sharn without a tank. My personal experience has vindicated this. It takes about two well built dps to comfortably swallow a doom reaper on r10.
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Re: Reaper HP ~ Can you solo a doom on 10 with meld?
Reply #1 - Sep 20th, 2019 at 9:00am
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Sep 20th, 2019 at 12:57am:
It takes about two well built dps to comfortably swallow a doom reaper on r10.

Since hardcore opened, the pool of high skull players has plummeted so out of necessity I've been duoing r10 dailies.  Your analysis aligns with my experience.  Lately we've been including a third non-optimized toon, and it takes longer to kill a Doom than Meld lasts. 
  
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Re: Reaper HP ~ Can you solo a doom on 10 with meld?
Reply #2 - Sep 20th, 2019 at 11:06am
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Been duoing r10 with inq/ice sorc; 2 strong DPS with good timing on burst/breathe can definitely get dooms down in meld window. Sharn dooms seem to have a bit more HP so requires a little creative kiting/tanking, but definitely doable.
  

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Re: Reaper HP ~ Can you solo a doom on 10 with meld?
Reply #3 - Sep 30th, 2019 at 7:34am
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I cannot kill a r10 doom reaper with meld.

But here's a tactic I saw used on ~R8 sharn pug with no heals but two tanks:
Tanks juggled aggro. Once one person had a lot of stacks of doom, the other person took it. Then stacks expired on tank one, so he grabbed it again. Etc.

All this while random wannabe melees (including myself) were slowly chipping at the reaper.
  
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Re: Reaper HP ~ Can you solo a doom on 10 with meld?
Reply #4 - Oct 3rd, 2019 at 5:39pm
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crunch wrote on Sep 30th, 2019 at 7:34am:
I cannot kill a r10 doom reaper with meld.

But here's a tactic I saw used on ~R8 sharn pug with no heals but two tanks:
Tanks juggled aggro. Once one person had a lot of stacks of doom, the other person took it. Then stacks expired on tank one, so he grabbed it again. Etc.

All this while random wannabe melees (including myself) were slowly chipping at the reaper.


Ew, you ran a non-raid with 2 tanks?
  
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Re: Reaper HP ~ Can you solo a doom on 10 with meld?
Reply #5 - Oct 4th, 2019 at 7:52am
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no. wrote on Oct 3rd, 2019 at 5:39pm:
Ew, you ran a non-raid with 2 tanks? 

Thanks to hardcore draining a ton of high skull players, beggars can't be choosers.
  
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Re: Reaper HP ~ Can you solo a doom on 10 with meld?
Reply #6 - Oct 16th, 2019 at 2:14pm
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crunch wrote on Sep 30th, 2019 at 7:34am:
I cannot kill a r10 doom reaper with meld.

But here's a tactic I saw used on ~R8 sharn pug with no heals but two tanks:
Tanks juggled aggro. Once one person had a lot of stacks of doom, the other person took it. Then stacks expired on tank one, so he grabbed it again. Etc.

All this while random wannabe melees (including myself) were slowly chipping at the reaper.


A doom reaper only hits for 5k once you get to 7 stacks.

Perfectly doable. I tanked two dooms in r10 roll call and was able to survive even after 7 stacks Cheesy

Screw double dipping.
  
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Re: Reaper HP ~ Can you solo a doom on 10 with meld?
Reply #7 - Jan 14th, 2020 at 4:11am
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crunch wrote on Sep 30th, 2019 at 7:34am:
I cannot kill a r10 doom reaper with meld.

But here's a tactic I saw used on ~R8 sharn pug with no heals but two tanks:
Tanks juggled aggro. Once one person had a lot of stacks of doom, the other person took it. Then stacks expired on tank one, so he grabbed it again. Etc.

All this while random wannabe melees (including myself) were slowly chipping at the reaper.


I like that idea. 4 tanks, 1 healer, 1 dps. That might scale better than we think if they ever introduce r10-r20.
  
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