AAH wrote on Jun 19^th, 2020 at 7:00am:


Yes but it's part of the original code they don't want to come near of even with a 10' pole. The Spaghetti Code.
( and they probably lost the relevant documentation, which is why it took them years to bring back UI skinning )

AAH wrote on Jun 19^th, 2020 at 7:00am:


Seems like something that someone could do and give to SSG.  (I'm not a coder so I'm assuming a lot I guess)

noamineo wrote on Jun 19^th, 2020 at 4:59pm:


Agreed.  I have a Win2K vm machine that is nice to fire up occasionally.  I call Win2K the last consumer OS they ever released.  XP and later is more like a giant app that likes to tell you what to do.

noamineo wrote on Jun 19^th, 2020 at 9:52pm:


Yep, I hear ya.

They also recently proved they can indeed modify the teleport spell.

Alex DeLarge wrote on Jun 21^st, 2020 at 11:06pm:


See, on the one hand, they are deeeeeeeeeeeeefinitely incompetent enough to forget to put a wind-up animation on no holds bared.

The problem comes in when instead of, say, fixing it in the next patch(like any discovered bug should be); instead they wait a long time, lead everyone to assume its WAI, and let an entire subculture form around it.



So whether it was an omission from the start or they decided it was OP, it doesn't really matter, because either way they were incompetant.


Alex DeLarge wrote on Jun 21^st, 2020 at 11:06pm:


Can we trick a dev into admitting they're all morons?

This loot is probably not going to get changed much from what we were presented with. There are just too many poor items, there will be hundreds of posts and even more suggestions within those posts. Best I can offer against what will be likely to get done is to compile a list of either hard to slot or rarely found properties, and stats.

Slavers is still crafted onto end game builds and the usual stats for dps ;

Sheltering ( specifically just for the magical sheltering part )
Armor pierce
Deception to-hit and damage
Devotion
Accuracy
Vertigo
Quality stats.

Take those abilities, put them on rings, trinkets, bracers, and cloaks. Take any of the 3 and mix and match them and you get immediately useful items. 

Insightful Constitution/Dexterity/Strength and especially Wisdom ( jesus wtf are you guys doing with wisdom, why?? ) is hard to slot. They are all on raid items.

Maybe exclusive clickie with :

FoM x1 at 10 minutes
Tenser's x1 same as scroll
Greater restoration x1

The weapons cannot compete with Sharn. They need niche applications in order to even earn a slot unless they are willing to power creep sharn and ravenloft weapons out. Those abilities would be :

Armor bypass either as a debuff proc, item property as insightful or quality.
Any way to reduce AC via debuffs, or no dc sunder proc chances.
A few weapons that lack Sharn or Ravenloft raid weapon Vacuum counterparts.
More DR breaking properties on the weapon type ; Adam/Good/Silver/Cold Iron are usually the ones augments and feats or items aim to produce.

SSG has kind of painted itself into a corner with loot design because of set bonuses. They lock 3 identical items onto every single dps build. Which inherently lowers variety in options.

There are no hard choices with Ravenloft and Sharn set bonuses. It's so good that Feywild will have to beat those set bonuses, because the individual items are too low on stats at ml 31-32 to beat Sharn bonuses. Then when the new expansion for level 37 comes out, the stats may still not be big enough to beat the feywild set bonus that had to beat the sharn set bonus. It's also why we are stapled with the same 3 items across end game on everybody.

FoM is on several items now and if push comes to shove you got the eternal pot.
You get a greater resto clicky on a trinket with 20 charges for 3 med eberron dragonshards.
Tenser's would be nice but longer than scroll tbh. It is high lvl gear....

This sets are nice and shiny but as you said they just block to much and they don't know what slots are useful in what combination.

I was hoping Dwarf would get Barbarian. Oh well.

That leaves Sorc as the only F2P class left to be iconic'd.

Technomage wrote on Jun 25^th, 2020 at 11:52pm:


The iconic shifter is a handwrap barbarian just to temper your excitement.

I mean I'm personally down if they handle it in an unique way; which I guessing they might given Steelstar's wording.

I'm guessing they might play as a THF handwrap build to emphasize the more 'brutal' and 'savage' nature of a Shifter. If so that would indeed make them unique for playing any class, even monk if you go through the trouble of alignment swaps and lessers.

Edrein wrote on Jun 26^th, 2020 at 6:27am:

Oh, I know.

Haven't liked to play my Shintao monk because of the low MRR cap. Even with Nytul's, a 90 MRR still sucks.

I'm hoping the Iconic will let me use Medium armor (it should, it's a Barbarian) but play somewhat like a Monk.

The extra d6es Monks get with handwraps will need to be made up somewhere by the Iconic in order for it to actually be good but I'm somewhat optimistic.

Flav wrote on Jun 26^th, 2020 at 4:48pm:


Sarlona Expansion 2023 baby. The conclusion of the Dreaming Dark series, Kalashtar, and Psionics universal tree.