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Re: Alchemist is bad, change my mind
Reply #25 - Jan 31st, 2020 at 7:12pm
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"Inquisitive post-nerf is a giant pile of dogshit. Like the combined creativity of all SSG devs." Rubbins

it makes you wonder what any of us still contribute to this game.
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Reply #26 - Jan 31st, 2020 at 9:08pm
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I never understood nerfing. Why is it considered a good business model to TAKE from happy customers when in some cases they could GIVE to other customers to achieve a balance. Taking away from customers/people creates anger and frustration. Giving to customers/people often inspires happiness. Plus it costs absolutely nothing to give to customers in DDO, pixels and what not.
  
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Reply #27 - Jan 31st, 2020 at 9:20pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Jan 30th, 2020 at 4:43pm:
Oh, you think we covered it all? Because I forgot about the few second delay from starting your NHB timer to being able to actually use it.

But, wait. There's more : If you had a good hide score, Scion Ethereal got nerfed as well.


Did we get them all? 8? nerfs? Seems legit


I dunno.  Feels like maybe we're missing one or two still. 

Then again, it could just be some stupid paranoia from the repeated nerfings of anything remotely resembling a fun build.
  
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Reply #28 - Feb 2nd, 2020 at 3:31pm
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Digimonk wrote on Jan 31st, 2020 at 9:20pm:
I dunno.  Feels like maybe we're missing one or two still. 

Then again, it could just be some stupid paranoia from the repeated nerfings of anything remotely resembling a fun build.

See, there's the issue. It goes from "It's right where we want it to be. 100 hours of playtesting. Same as a great xbow mech.", all the way to a bucket of nerfs at once.

I am assuming the reload nerf will not touch NHB speed, since that bypasses the reload animation all together ( hopefully ). The law dice, scaling, doubleshot, and mech tree nerfs are more than enough. Doubleshot nerfs bolts fired per attack from 4 to 5 shots, down to just 2-4. Droidz on mobos did some math and said that the reload nerf is around 3% loss on a sustained rate.

Fury, Shiradi, and Fatesinger times won't be too much slower, relatively, due to them already being so low on pre-nerf times. But LD and SD times are going to feel it, immensely. A shuri or dagger thrower become better ranged builds because the dps is now higher, on either burst EDS, or sustained dps EDs.

Nerfs in DDO are especially problematic, from a mechanical perspective, because the game has almost zero tools to assist the players with anything. And we end up having no way of knowing if what is being done actually works correctly. Like alacrity on lamania with throwers and bows. Devs are silent on the vile alchemist thread. The one with the tier 5 alacrity lol. Also, Daggers and shuris seem to be capped at 5. So do bolts on inquis on live. 



  

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Reply #29 - Feb 2nd, 2020 at 3:33pm
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Shinyshoes wrote on Jan 31st, 2020 at 7:12pm:
it makes you wonder what any of us still contribute to this game.

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Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #30 - Feb 2nd, 2020 at 11:56pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Feb 2nd, 2020 at 3:33pm:
witty one-liners and charm!


Yeah well the devs are completely devoid of the latter and utterly incapable of the former, so that is pretty correct!
  
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Re: Alchemist is bad, change my mind
Reply #31 - Feb 3rd, 2020 at 6:56pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Feb 2nd, 2020 at 3:31pm:
the game has almost zero tools to assist the players with anything. And we end up having no way of knowing if what is being done actually works correctly.

So much this.

  
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