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Head-Meat 57%Misunderstood53%Moron Offline Subtle. I know. Posts: 9104 Joined: Nov 11^th, 2016	Ranged DPS Options Post-U47 Oct 19^th, 2020 at 3:37pm	Print Post
	How we doing out there, folks? I tried alchemist for a minute, but then I TRed into a Strength Tremor Pally, and I don't like it as much as my thrower. Who is still running ranged DPS, which build, and how are they performing?

	Strake wrote on Mar 31^st, 2020 at 1:51pm: Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group. Gunga wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 2:27am: Bitcoin. lul --Who is luling in March 2025? Proud FORCCer
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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1809 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: Ranged DPS Options Post-U47 Reply #1 - Oct 19^th, 2020 at 3:46pm	Print Post
	I still have a Rog/Art/1Barb at cap for farming because it runs pretty fast and despite the Inquis balancing is effective enough. It's not the meta but it's good enough that I can use it as a second runner when my main is ransacked. Never have a problem with it being incapable; it is ranged after all.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Ranged DPS Options Post-U47 Reply #2 - Oct 19^th, 2020 at 5:49pm	Print Post
	I tested inquisitive on lam. During a NHB dual wielding has a lower bolt output than single wielding. But when NOT using NHB dual wielding puts out more bolts. Significant enough for each to matter. There might be a case for 18 rogue 2 levels of whatever, using mechanic 18th level core and Inquisitive tier 5 for NHB. Where you use Volley for NHB and dual wield xbows when not using NHB. The old gxbow 10/6ftr/4arty builds might still be good. Haven't tested. The light crossbow in feywild seemed good to use while swashbuckling, tested it on 16ro/3bard/1x NHB peaked at 14 in LD for me, which isn't bad for my low life character. Single wield NHB.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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makar Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 38 Joined: Jun 25^th, 2020	Re: Ranged DPS Options Post-U47 Reply #3 - Oct 19^th, 2020 at 6:00pm	Print Post
	I dropped my ranged toon for now. Other builds are just significantly stronger at this point that it feels kinda pointless trying to make ranged work. For certain content, I imagine dagger throwers (same splits as before) are probably still strong enough to compete. But I'm not a fan of running builds that are specific to a small number of raids / quests.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Ranged DPS Options Post-U47 Reply #4 - Oct 19^th, 2020 at 6:00pm	Print Post
	Also that was a botched rotation where I neglected to turn on law dice. Wasted 4 seconds of Through the Mists because I used it incorrectly. You want to use it after you turn on NHB. I will probably test again next lam. Using following order : Deadly Rain swap + NHB, swap to Through the Mists. Vac swap, Dust swap. Activated attacks are very few on inquisitive and maximizing the rotation is based more so on swapping correctly. If done correctly and on a maxed character that time can probably be close to 10 seconds in LD.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Ranged DPS Options Post-U47 Reply #5 - Oct 19^th, 2020 at 10:00pm	Print Post
	Crossbows are still great DPS if you do it right (read: be mostly rogue), they are just not the new shiny thing anymore. And they have a bit of the glass cannon problem. I need to update my build, but it's going to look mostly like this: http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1443343697/99#99 except back to 18 rog/2 arti and 41 inquiz/31 mech/8 harper.

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Linker Dragon Raider Offline It's all the same Posts: 212 Joined: Jan 29^th, 2019	Re: Ranged DPS Options Post-U47 Reply #6 - Nov 9^th, 2020 at 6:55am	Print Post
	I miss the days FoTW was a thing in terms of DPS...


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Head-Meat 57%Misunderstood53%Moron Offline Subtle. I know. Posts: 9104 Joined: Nov 11^th, 2016	Re: Ranged DPS Options Post-U47 Reply #7 - Nov 9^th, 2020 at 11:47am	Print Post
	Linker wrote on Nov 9^th, 2020 at 6:55am: I miss the days FoTW was a thing in terms of DPS... Still is my dawg. I pull aggro using fury if I'm not careful and/or the tank is a little weak.

	Strake wrote on Mar 31^st, 2020 at 1:51pm: Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group. Gunga wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 2:27am: Bitcoin. lul --Who is luling in March 2025? Proud FORCCer
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SpaceGoat Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 598 Joined: Oct 14^th, 2015	Re: Ranged DPS Options Post-U47 Reply #8 - Nov 9^th, 2020 at 12:26pm	Print Post
	Shiradi is very very good. Hard to say that fury is better.


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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Ranged DPS Options Post-U47 Reply #9 - Nov 9^th, 2020 at 12:30pm	Print Post
	SpaceGoat wrote on Nov 9^th, 2020 at 12:26pm: Shiradi is very very good. Hard to say that fury is better. Agreed.

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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Ranged DPS Options Post-U47 Reply #10 - Nov 9^th, 2020 at 3:19pm	Print Post
	pure spike dmg is still hands down FOTW because of Unbridled Fury and speed of Adrenaline use vs Hunts End CD


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Ranged DPS Options Post-U47 Reply #11 - Nov 11^th, 2020 at 3:53pm	Print Post
	Shadowdancer if your build can make the instakills work without sacrificing DPS.

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8869 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Ranged DPS Options Post-U47 Reply #12 - Nov 24^th, 2020 at 6:25pm	Print Post
	So are you still having to manage 8 different cool downs and do constant weapon-swaps to make a decent ranged; or is there a nice no-brainer option left? As I consider my long-term goals in the game I'm leaning towards focusing on 3 characters: a melee, a ranged, and a spellcaster. I've got my super maxed out all PLs main sorc, and I have generally settled on my melee. If I can't effectively play a ranged I'll just stick with what I've got.

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Head-Meat 57%Misunderstood53%Moron Offline Subtle. I know. Posts: 9104 Joined: Nov 11^th, 2016	Re: Ranged DPS Options Post-U47 Reply #13 - Nov 24^th, 2020 at 6:52pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Nov 24^th, 2020 at 6:25pm: So are you still having to manage 8 different cool downs and do constant weapon-swaps to make a decent ranged; or is there a nice no-brainer option left? As I consider my long-term goals in the game I'm leaning towards focusing on 3 characters: a melee, a ranged, and a spellcaster. I've got my super maxed out all PLs main sorc, and I have generally settled on my melee. If I can't effectively play a ranged I'll just stick with what I've got. I think a pure rogue mech or inquis is still solid and pretty no-brainer. But, there are range-power swaps that are legit. Not required, but they help.

	Strake wrote on Mar 31^st, 2020 at 1:51pm: Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group. Gunga wrote on Oct 5^th, 2022 at 2:27am: Bitcoin. lul --Who is luling in March 2025? Proud FORCCer
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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8869 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Ranged DPS Options Post-U47 Reply #14 - Nov 24^th, 2020 at 7:39pm	Print Post
	Head-Meat wrote on Nov 24^th, 2020 at 6:52pm: I think a pure rogue mech or inquis is still solid and pretty no-brainer. But, there are range-power swaps that are legit. Not required, but they help. Well so I've got Volley, Arbalest of the Damned on my pure rogue. That character in fact has a shocking amount of raid gear for how little he gets played... He is ablls-deep into mechanic so would probably do ok. Currently he is first-life lvl 30 with just a single tome(+8 dex) but between black friday and other resources I could probably fix that. Think race is that important or can I keep him a smallboy?

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8869 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Ranged DPS Options Post-U47 Reply #15 - Nov 24^th, 2020 at 11:46pm	Print Post
	So I just spent some time twerping around on my mechanic - and I'm reminded how much I love the character. Or, more specifically, WOULD love the character if he were just a touch more capable. So, going over planning for him, I'm wondering if heroic PLs past 3 are really worth the effort? Seems like most of the power is front-loaded into EPLs and those are a lot easier to get. Do I really need any heroic PLs past the two required to get 36pt build?

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