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Dex Assassin Gear Set
Nov 24th, 2020 at 4:44pm
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I spent way too much time with the planner. Here's what I came up with. Also have calcs for tactics/assasinate in there:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/2/d/1AYxGtOS0z8lQOxWwbZXlkdtn6h8O7sJ6h-Kk
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Reply #1 - Nov 24th, 2020 at 4:45pm
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Reply #2 - Nov 24th, 2020 at 5:20pm
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Why dex?
  

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Gunga wrote on Nov 24th, 2020 at 5:20pm:
Why dex?



Good question. Obviously it saves a feat in terms of insightful reflexes. But, besides that, the answer is dodge. The build SHOULD be able to reach a high standing dodge and so hitting uncanny dodge should operate like a second meld. Handy in high reaper. This build would still use KTA, and it would use at least a 21/10 Int Coll. Sight swap for KTA. So, it's still reaping some of those benefits. DCs to Dire charge should still be no-fail.

That means the main loss will be a little less dps from KTA in exchange for lots more dodge.

It's not the only way to skin the cat, but that's my plan for now.


In other news, I someone in your guild pointed out that you don't need blinding speed if you use the new topaz aug. Duh. That opens a feat which is neato. 

  


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Reply #4 - Nov 24th, 2020 at 6:09pm
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Don't need a Speed item...you took Blinding Speed as a feat at 30th level.

Why not both Pain AND Suffering? It doesn't appear you have anything in your Offhand on your spreadsheet.

EDIT: Just saw your point about the topaz augment.
  

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Reply #5 - Nov 24th, 2020 at 6:13pm
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Technomage wrote on Nov 24th, 2020 at 6:09pm:
Don't need a Speed item...you took Blinding Speed as a feat at 30th level.

Why not both Pain AND Suffering? It doesn't appear you have anything in your Offhand on your spreadsheet.

EDIT: Just saw your point about the topaz augment.



Sorry it copied only the main hand. Definitely meant to have the set going.
  


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Reply #6 - Nov 24th, 2020 at 6:14pm
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BTW, I tried to confirm. Do we know the "striding" augs are now "speed" augs? I thought I read that in a dev post, but I can't find it.
  


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Reply #7 - Nov 24th, 2020 at 6:23pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Nov 24th, 2020 at 6:14pm:
BTW, I tried to confirm. Do we know the "striding" augs are now "speed" augs? I thought I read that in a dev post, but I can't find it.

To my knowledge, they are NOT "Speed" augments. They only add to your Run speed.
  

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Reply #8 - Nov 24th, 2020 at 7:42pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Nov 24th, 2020 at 5:52pm:
Good question. Obviously it saves a feat in terms of insightful reflexes. But, besides that, the answer is dodge. The build SHOULD be able to reach a high standing dodge and so hitting uncanny dodge should operate like a second meld. Handy in high reaper. This build would still use KTA, and it would use at least a 21/10 Int Coll. Sight swap for KTA. So, it's still reaping some of those benefits. DCs to Dire charge should still be no-fail.

That means the main loss will be a little less dps from KTA in exchange for lots more dodge.

It's not the only way to skin the cat, but that's my plan for now.


In other news, I someone in your guild pointed out that you don't need blinding speed if you use the new topaz aug. Duh. That opens a feat which is neato. 



Solid points. Wasn't sure if you were actually weighing Int vs Dex. I haven't played either, but I'll get around to it. I have all of the gear. I'm going to go Int for more damage, ass dcs should be fine.

  

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Reply #9 - Nov 24th, 2020 at 10:28pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Nov 24th, 2020 at 6:13pm:
Sorry it copied only the main hand. Definitely meant to have the set going.

No True Seeing, either?
  

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Technomage wrote on Nov 24th, 2020 at 10:28pm:
No True Seeing, either?


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Reply #11 - Nov 25th, 2020 at 12:08am
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Wildcard (prr)
Family's Blessing (dmg/ds/ins byp)
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Head-Meat wrote on Nov 24th, 2020 at 6:14pm:
BTW, I tried to confirm. Do we know the "striding" augs are now "speed" augs? I thought I read that in a dev post, but I can't find it.


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Sergod wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 12:08am:
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Incite on a rogue?
Working too hard for the winter set, bro.
  


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Working too hard for the winter set, bro.


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Head-Meat wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 12:13am:
Incite on a rogue?
Working too hard for the winter set, bro.


Winter Set is niceeeee. Realized theres no armor piercing in this set though so I am rebuilding it.
  
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Reply #16 - Nov 25th, 2020 at 11:23am
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Sergod wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 12:09am:
can confirm they are speed augments

Probably a bug, then. The description of the augment itself says nothing about increasing attack speed.

I wouldn't make a build expecting this to last.
  

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Technomage wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 11:23am:
Probably a bug, then. The description of the augment itself says nothing about increasing attack speed.

I wouldn't make a build expecting this to last.


Its literally called a topaz of swiftness 15% and says it in the description that it increases attack speed.
  
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Technomage wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 11:23am:
Probably a bug, then. The description of the augment itself says nothing about increasing attack speed.

I wouldn't make a build expecting this to last.


Dawg have you even bothered to read one yourself?
  
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Who Knows wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 12:04pm:
Dawg have you even bothered to read one yourself?

Hmmm...apparently there's a new augment I didn't know about - Topaz of Swiftness.

I was thinking of the Topaz of Striding.

Learn something new every day, I suppose.
  

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Technomage wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 12:40pm:
Hmmm...apparently there's a new augment I didn't know about - Topaz of Swiftness.

I was thinking of the Topaz of Striding.

Learn something new every day, I suppose.


There was just an update that did an augment pass. They changed Striding to Swiftness.
  
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Reply #21 - Nov 25th, 2020 at 1:17pm
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Sergod wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 12:52pm:
There was just an update that did an augment pass. They changed Striding to Swiftness.

The Striding augments are still in the DDO Store and they say they only give +30% to Run Speed.

The Swiftness augments are also in the store.
  

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Technomage wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 1:17pm:
The Striding augments are still in the DDO Store and they say they only give +30% to Run Speed.

The Swiftness augments are also in the store.


My striding augment turned into a swiftness augment when I unslotted it.
  
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Reply #23 - Nov 25th, 2020 at 1:39pm
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Sergod wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 1:19pm:
My striding augment turned into a swiftness augment when I unslotted it.

Oh wow. I guess I haven't unslotted any of my Striding augments yet.
  

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Sergod wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 1:21pm:
Enforcer's Coat (prr)
Family's Blessing (dmg/ds/ins byp)
Hammerfist (see/ins dbl/ins dmg)
Deepsnow Boots (ins con/qua con)
Direwolf Belt (ins see/dec)
Silver Dragonscale Capelet (ins she/ins dex/dodge)
Crown of Winter
Brightlord (bypass)
Nocturne Ring
Celestial Ruby Ring (dex/stun/acc)
Collective Sight (con/ins dex)
Bottle of Smoke (qua dex/blur)

Thoughts?

No Evasion anymore. Bad idea.
  

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