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Reply #25 - Nov 25th, 2020 at 2:03pm
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Technomage wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 1:39pm:
No Evasion anymore. Bad idea.


Agree.

Although "defense" can mean dodge/evasion. But it can also mean PRR/MRR. So, both can work.


I would be curious what the PRR/MRR difference is though, tbh.
  


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Reply #26 - Nov 25th, 2020 at 2:16pm
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Technomage wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 1:39pm:
No Evasion anymore. Bad idea.

typo. wildcard. was editing it from a previous gearset from a different build.
  
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Reply #27 - Nov 25th, 2020 at 2:18pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 2:03pm:
Agree.

Although "defense" can mean dodge/evasion. But it can also mean PRR/MRR. So, both can work.


I would be curious what the PRR/MRR difference is though, tbh.


definitely light armor. MDB for massive dodge is better. also run speed. im actually currently playing this build. 3.5k hp 300prr 100mrr and 34% dodge in reaper
  
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Reply #28 - Nov 25th, 2020 at 2:19pm
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Technomage wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 1:39pm:
No Evasion anymore. Bad idea.


Updated fixed typo

Wildcard (prr)
Family's Blessing (dmg/ds/ins byp)
Hammerfist (see/ins dbl/ins dmg)
Deepsnow Boots (ins con/qua con)
Direwolf Belt (ins see/dec)
Silver Dragonscale Capelet (ins she/ins dex/dodge)
Crown of Winter
Brightlord (bypass)
Nocturne Ring
Celestial Ruby Ring (dex/stun/acc)
Collective Sight (con/ins dex)
Bottle of Smoke (qua dex/blur)

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Reply #29 - Nov 25th, 2020 at 2:45pm
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Sergod wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 2:18pm:
definitely light armor. MDB for massive dodge is better. also run speed. im actually currently playing this build. 3.5k hp 300prr 100mrr and 34% dodge in reaper



Nice!

Thanks for the update. I assume 3.5k is Reaper with Grim filled? What's standing in town with just EDF active?
  


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Head-Meat wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 2:45pm:
Nice!

Thanks for the update. I assume 3.5k is Reaper with Grim filled? What's standing in town with just EDF active?


Ya have 83 reaper points. 2700 in town if I recall?
  
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Reply #31 - Nov 25th, 2020 at 2:55pm
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Sergod wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 2:55pm:
Ya have 83 reaper points. 2700 in town if I recall?



Very solid.
  


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Reply #32 - Nov 25th, 2020 at 2:59pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 2:55pm:
Very solid.


winter set is very nice. im farming augments to augment in the 25% fort bypass.
  
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Reply #33 - Nov 25th, 2020 at 3:21pm
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Sergod wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 2:19pm:
Updated fixed typo

Wildcard (prr)
Family's Blessing (dmg/ds/ins byp)
Hammerfist (see/ins dbl/ins dmg)
Deepsnow Boots (ins con/qua con)
Direwolf Belt (ins see/dec)
Silver Dragonscale Capelet (ins she/ins dex/dodge)
Crown of Winter
Brightlord (bypass)
Nocturne Ring
Celestial Ruby Ring (dex/stun/acc)
Collective Sight (con/ins dex)
Bottle of Smoke (qua dex/blur)

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That wasted helm slot though.  :/

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Reply #34 - Nov 25th, 2020 at 3:30pm
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I also don't like that ring much.
  


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Reply #35 - Nov 25th, 2020 at 8:33pm
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I also don't like that ring much.


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Reply #36 - Nov 25th, 2020 at 8:38pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 3:30pm:
I also don't like that ring much.


Wildcard (prr)
Family's Blessing (dmg/ds/ins byp)
Hammerfist (see/ins dbl/ins dmg)
Deepsnow Boots (ins con/qua con)
Direwolf Belt (ins see/dec)
Silver Dragonscale Capelet (ins she/ins dex/dodge)
Crown of Winter
Devilscale Bracers
Ring of Winter's Chill
Sigil of the Triumvirate (dex/ins acc)
Collective Sight (con/ins int)
Slave Lords (int/bypass/stun/qua dex

another option to keep devilscale bracers for the assassinate dc
  
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Reply #37 - Nov 25th, 2020 at 10:07pm
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Sergod wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 8:38pm:
another option to keep devilscale bracers for the assassinate dc

Well, the thread is about Assassin equipment, so...
  

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Reply #38 - Nov 26th, 2020 at 1:51pm
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Sergod wrote on Nov 25th, 2020 at 8:38pm:
Wildcard (prr)
Family's Blessing (dmg/ds/ins byp)
Hammerfist (see/ins dbl/ins dmg)
Deepsnow Boots (ins con/qua con)
Direwolf Belt (ins see/dec)
Silver Dragonscale Capelet (ins she/ins dex/dodge)
Crown of Winter
Devilscale Bracers
Ring of Winter's Chill
Sigil of the Triumvirate (dex/ins acc)
Collective Sight (con/ins int)
Slave Lords (int/bypass/stun/qua dex

another option to keep devilscale bracers for the assassinate dc


I think LGS might be better here.


armor - Wildcard (prr)
neck - Family's Blessing (dmg/ds/ins byp)
hands - Hammerfist (see/ins dbl/ins dmg)

feet - Deepsnow Boots (ins con/qua con) *20 prr augment1
waist - belt lgs  xx
back - Silver Dragonscale Capelet (ins she/ins dex/dodge) *20 prr augment2
head - helm lgs xx
wrists - Devilscale Bracers *20 prr augment3
finger 1 - Ring int 21/stun/accuracy/ghost *25% bypass augment1
finger 2 - Sigil of the Triumvirate (dex/ins acc) *25% bypass augment2
eyes - Collective Sight (con/ins int) *25% bypass augment3
trinket - Slave Lords (sheltering/bypass/tendon/qua dex

Lose 2% hp, 5 prr, True seeing, 10 insightful seeker, insightful fort %.

Gain 3 stun DC, +14 accuracy, +5 int ( +2 damage and DC ), fort/reflex saves.

The accuracy alone is worth the swap because it is significant enough to move the grazing roll one whole number down. If you were grazing on a 5 you now graze on a 4, and your criticals fail to confirm on a roll of 3 ( extra to-hit from seeker ) or less. 


  

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Feywild has some crazy ACs. I had a graze on a 7 (+170) today!


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Reply #41 - Nov 26th, 2020 at 4:12pm
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After some more digging I think youre right on the LGS being better. Came up with this.

Wildcard (prr)
The Family's Blessing (dmg/ins byp/dbl)
Hammerfist (see/ins dbl)
Legendary Tumbleweed (acc/ins dex)
Tattered Scrolls (mrr/ins she)
Ring of the Silver Tongue
Cloak of Balance (ins see/qua dex/parry)
The Shrouded Step (dex/ins dod/qua dod)
LGS Belt
Collective Sight (con/ins con)
Slavers (?/bypass/stun/qua con)
LGS Helm

Rubbinns wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 1:51pm:
I think LGS might be better here.


armor - Wildcard (prr)
neck - Family's Blessing (dmg/ds/ins byp)
hands - Hammerfist (see/ins dbl/ins dmg)

feet - Deepsnow Boots (ins con/qua con) *20 prr augment1
waist - belt lgs  xx
back - Silver Dragonscale Capelet (ins she/ins dex/dodge) *20 prr augment2
head - helm lgs xx
wrists - Devilscale Bracers *20 prr augment3
finger 1 - Ring int 21/stun/accuracy/ghost *25% bypass augment1
finger 2 - Sigil of the Triumvirate (dex/ins acc) *25% bypass augment2
eyes - Collective Sight (con/ins int) *25% bypass augment3
trinket - Slave Lords (sheltering/bypass/tendon/qua dex

Lose 2% hp, 5 prr, True seeing, 10 insightful seeker, insightful fort %.

Gain 3 stun DC, +14 accuracy, +5 int ( +2 damage and DC ), fort/reflex saves.

The accuracy alone is worth the swap because it is significant enough to move the grazing roll one whole number down. If you were grazing on a 5 you now graze on a 4, and your criticals fail to confirm on a roll of 3 ( extra to-hit from seeker ) or less. 



  
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Reply #42 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 6:22am
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Look at the Gear set up Staffy posted on official forums ( dext one in his post about int r10 assassin )

Probably the best around...

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/518639-R10-Int-Assassin-for-Sharn?p=63...

If you want a gnome life or are struggling with Sharn saves, then this is a good build, but as i said before, if you want the best over all assassin, i'd go halfling Dex based and use a different item\ Ap list
43 Assassin(take Light Armour Masteryx3)
24 TA (alot more dodge cap, more dex, defensive role)
8 for KTA
rest in vistani for Deflect arrow(assuming you already have Deadly Blades on all your daggers)

This should give approx 48% dodge(if you have the reaper points to spend)
Some would disagree and say more Vistani= more DPS, well not always the case in high reapers, which is what i tend to do. So more survivability to me = more DPS.

Ill tr soon for new equipment to Dex based and go something like this

• Goggles: Legendary Collective Sight: (Dex21/Insightful Con10/Quality Resistance 4/Temperance of Belief)Swap Int\Int for KTA
• Helm: Reaper Helm 19 Wisdom(cos that's all i have with reaper stats)
• Necklace: The Family's Blessing: (Quality Assassinate 2, Doublestrike 24%/Insightful Armor-Piercing 16/Deadly 17)
• Trinket: The Heart of Suulomades Quality Constitution +5 Resistance +18
• Gloves: Legendary Hammerfist: (Insightful Doublestrike 11%/Cannith Combat Infusion/Seeker 21/Insightful Deadly 8)
• Armor: Legendary Light Armour
• Ring 2: Sapphire ring Constitution +21Improved DeceptionDodge +21%Profane Well Rounded +2
• Ring: Legendary Tumbleweed Insightful Dexterity +10Exceptional Nimble Skills +11Accuracy +34Deadly +17
• Bracers: Devilscale Bracers Improved DeceptionAssassinate +10Deception +18Insightful Assassinate +4
• Boots: maybe slavers boots for extra armor piercing+hide22 and quality Int for better KTA
• Belt: Legendary Belt of Sure Strikes Magical Sheltering +54, Insightful Seeker 10, Quality Combat Mastery +5, Quality Accuracy +8
• Cloak:Legendary Cloak of Balance Quality Dexterity +5Freedom of MovementInsightful Seeker 10Parrying +10

If i am in R10's without a dedicated tank, or in Reaper raids, and it looks like it is going belly up, i'd swap out helm and Boots for LGS HP items, which would give me over 4500-4800(if bard buffed) HP's(not bad for a rogue) with 48% dodge before meld\uncanny. You should be the last man standing.
  
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Reply #43 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 12:05pm
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Here's what I got so far with this.

https://imgur.com/a/iE7BWip

130 Assassinate DC
118 Dex in Reaper.


Breakdown:

20base
7levels
8tome
3 racials
2 class comp
2 race comp
21 item
10 insight
5 qual
7 enhancements
2 Ass. Capstone
1 Martial Hymn
1 Globe Aug
2 Well Rounded
4 Alchem (tensers)
2 Guild
2 Yugo
2 Store pot/Rem Pot
5 Reaper
10 filigrees
2 Destiny

=118

Missing

4 Artifact
1 More from item if I used a Dex Min. Art.
2 From Profane cookies (I had this but it wasn't stacking. Bug?)
2 Bard song
2 filigree (I think) without losing the two main sets I have

Max potential: 127


130 Assassinate DC:

30 Base
54 Dex Mod
16 gear
4 filigree sets
7 Ass. Enh
8 SD Dest
3 Ancient Tactics
4 Astral Scion
2 Unusual Tac Twist
=128

Missing 2 somewhere?

=140 Shadow Manip
=137 Executioner Strike
=131 Dire Charge
  


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Reply #44 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 12:07pm
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I know there's lots of HP missing btw. I only have like 42 reaper points. So, dread is mostly filled and some in grim. Plus, I could work LGS back in. Not sure if I like it tho. I'd lose some Direcharge DC..
  


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Reply #45 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 12:18pm
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Look at the Gear set up Staffy posted on official forums ( dext one in his post about int r10 assassin )

Probably the best around...

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/518639-R10-Int-Assassin-for-Sharn?p=63...

If you want a gnome life or are struggling with Sharn saves, then this is a good build, but as i said before, if you want the best over all assassin, i'd go halfling Dex based and use a different item\ Ap list
43 Assassin(take Light Armour Masteryx3)
24 TA (alot more dodge cap, more dex, defensive role)
8 for KTA
rest in vistani for Deflect arrow(assuming you already have Deadly Blades on all your daggers)

This should give approx 48% dodge(if you have the reaper points to spend)
Some would disagree and say more Vistani= more DPS, well not always the case in high reapers, which is what i tend to do. So more survivability to me = more DPS.

Ill tr soon for new equipment to Dex based and go something like this

• Goggles: Legendary Collective Sight: (Dex21/Insightful Con10/Quality Resistance 4/Temperance of Belief)Swap Int\Int for KTA
• Helm: Reaper Helm 19 Wisdom(cos that's all i have with reaper stats)
• Necklace: The Family's Blessing: (Quality Assassinate 2, Doublestrike 24%/Insightful Armor-Piercing 16/Deadly 17)
• Trinket: The Heart of Suulomades Quality Constitution +5 Resistance +18
• Gloves: Legendary Hammerfist: (Insightful Doublestrike 11%/Cannith Combat Infusion/Seeker 21/Insightful Deadly 8)
• Armor: Legendary Light Armour
• Ring 2: Sapphire ring Constitution +21Improved DeceptionDodge +21%Profane Well Rounded +2
• Ring: Legendary Tumbleweed Insightful Dexterity +10Exceptional Nimble Skills +11Accuracy +34Deadly +17
• Bracers: Devilscale Bracers Improved DeceptionAssassinate +10Deception +18Insightful Assassinate +4
• Boots: maybe slavers boots for extra armor piercing+hide22 and quality Int for better KTA
• Belt: Legendary Belt of Sure Strikes Magical Sheltering +54, Insightful Seeker 10, Quality Combat Mastery +5, Quality Accuracy +8
• Cloak:Legendary Cloak of Balance Quality Dexterity +5Freedom of MovementInsightful Seeker 10Parrying +10

If i am in R10's without a dedicated tank, or in Reaper raids, and it looks like it is going belly up, i'd swap out helm and Boots for LGS HP items, which would give me over 4500-4800(if bard buffed) HP's(not bad for a rogue) with 48% dodge before meld\uncanny. You should be the last man standing.


I was originally kinda following this. May still. Trying it out and tweaking.

Got feedback from Speedy last night tho (Lava Diver Dex rogue). He does a little different. He goes into falconry for defenses (per/mrr/HP) and reduces vistani to 15ish I think.
  


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Reply #46 - Nov 27th, 2020 at 2:08pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Nov 27th, 2020 at 12:07pm:
I could work LGS back in.

If you're going to skip on LGS you can use the set I posted above.

Swap out the lgs belt for Sure Strikes and gain Q accuracy, Ins seeker, and QCM 5.
Trade LGS helm for Executioner for insightful deception and relentless fury proc on trash.

The set then gives you more prr from insightful sheltering, and more to-hit than staffy's set from insightful accuracy. While also giving higher Insightful deception than quiver, also gets the fury proc. 

Staffy's set will have room for higher dex from slotting artifact dex +4 because sulo set covers 3d6 sneak and 20 artifact prr. And has higher saves through parrying and resistance 18 vs augmenting resistance.
  

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5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 26th, 2020 at 2:40pm:
Feywild has some crazy ACs. I had a graze on a 7 (+170) today!


Just now failed a crit confirm against the same mob:

(Combat): You roll to confirm a critical on Lenai. You roll a 4 (+225): Failure!
  

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Re: Dex Assassin Gear Set
Reply #49 - Nov 28th, 2020 at 11:20am
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ON OP: This build has bad boss dps. I'm talking like 10k dps in Shadow Dancer. I tried a couple tests.

Main stat is 112+, DS is just under 100%, rotating ass trick and imp feint for sneak dmg.. Using haste and haste boost.. Have 85% fort bypass in town.. What am I missing that this sucks?

170 melee power seems like a weakness? Base dagger dmg is not awesome.
  


Strake wrote on Mar 31st, 2020 at 1:51pm:
Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group.
Gunga wrote on Oct 5th, 2022 at 2:27am:
Bitcoin. lul
--Who is luling in March 2025?
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